So quick defender of Obama one, has he indeed provided the necessary documents showing he was born in the USA (i.e. Birth Certificate)?

It should be public knowledge, McCain's obviously is. Doesn't the American Public deserve to know?

Please humor me with more vague aversions to the topic.

Originally posted by Mirthful Me
Only the Democrats could make a soap opera out of a presidential election...

You think Democrats are starting these rumors? I have never seen so many attacks on a politician in such a short amount of time - EVER. And it's not the Democrats doing it.

Funny how you avoid questoins.

We are not talking about citizenship. Arnold Schwartzenegger has citizenship but has been unable to run because he was not born in the US. He is trying to change this as he stated.

Now, Obama has dual citizenship in Kenya and the US. Where is his birth certificate? It needs to be addressed, otherwise it is in direct violation of the US Constitution.

Anyone who plans on raising my taxes through the roof for Communist style model of government better dam well have been born here in the first place.


[edit on 10-6-2008 by jetxnet]

Originally posted by jetxnet
Now, Obama has dual citizenship in Kenya and the US.

He does? It's a fact now? Oh, by the way, Kenya does not allow dual citizenship.

Where is his birth certificate? It needs to be addressed, otherwise it is in direct violation of the US Constitution.

Yes. And do you suppose anyone looked at his birth certificate to check on that little item before they went to all the trouble to allow him to be the Democratic nominee for President?? Do you think it ever occurred to him? Do you really think he's trying to sneak that by?

I cannot believe the straws you guys reach for! Incredible. Yes, Not credible. That's exactly what it is.

Hey, that's Hillary's line...

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
You think Democrats are starting these rumors? I have never seen so many attacks on a politician in such a short amount of time - EVER. And it's not the Democrats doing it.

Yeah... You're right... It's a vast right wing conspiracy... Except what does John McCain have to gain? It's Hillary who will "profit" from this awkward little situation...

You really think, after years and years of living and sleeping the political world, Obama would get caught out by something like this? I guarantee his life, his history, his family, his descendants, have all gone under the microscope from day one of his entry into high level politics, if something was found then it has been kept for a time like this, and even now its probably clutching straws, exactly like a certain dress which went uncleaned for 3 years? remember that dress? the one with the stains on it that they tried to impeach clinton with?

I watched Hilary the other day when she finally pulled out of the race, and she called for her supporters to now back Obama, in the after speech interviews, there where some people, just every day campaigners, one lady was asked what she will do now, and she replied im going with Mcain now, i thought what a hypocritical racist cow, it was as plain as the sky s blue she doesn't like the fact that Obama is Black.

So what if he is? he is also "HUMAN" if half the racist half wits knew anything about Human history, they would know colour isnt what counts, its the person inside that makes the man or woman, at one time before the migration of Humans everyone was of dark complexion, Like the supremacists who praise their lord Jesus Christ while screaming white power, what colour do they think Jesus actually was? Milk bottle white?

Obviously there are going to be all kinds of hate campaigns now on both sides trying to bring down the opposition, I was ust hoping that with the Human race being a little more advanced than the 19th century, the issue of race would become a thing of days gone long ago, sadly this seems to not be the case, wouldn't the people of America be better off voting for the person who is going to work for them and give them greatness again?

Im not saying Obama is the right guy, but if you dont look past the colour of his skin, then i feel so sorry for those who dont.

Since Obama won the right to run for the white house there has been so many threads bashing and ripping him, and in every one of them his colour is mentioned, so i ask what is the real agenda? is it a way of beating around the bush (pardon the pun) just in case someone missed the fact a black guy is running for president?

So laughable its beyond a joke, is there a way i can opt out of being Human?

Originally posted by jetxnet
So quick defender of Obama one, has he indeed provided the necessary documents showing he was born in the USA (i.e. Birth Certificate)?

To you? I doubt it. To the public? He's under no obligation to. To the State Department? Most assuredly!

It should be public knowledge, McCain's obviously is.

Where is it? Have you seen it? Do you have a link to it?

Or Hillary's?

We looked at birth certificates from the 40s,50s,70s, from two states and none listed religion. There is race/color and occupations and of course parent ages.

Edit:

Apparently some states do record an entry for religion.

[edit on 6/10/2008 by roadgravel]

I found this to be so odd, I took the direct route. I sent a question regarding this topic directly too him via his Campaigns Web Site.

"I'm currently in the undecided category on who to vote for. In researching you on the Internet, I ran into a rather odd thing. Is it true that you (Mr. Obama) have ignored or refused requests for your Birth Certificate? If so; why?

You must know how odd this seems to the rest of us who routinely have to provide our Birth Certificates? It seems like a fair request."

I have no idea if I'll get an answer? Seemed smarter than all this speculation.

It's so funny when Obamatrons use Obama's personal Campaign site to site facts.

He has total control of this information (on his Campaign site)!

Give an unbiased source with credibility to show the details. The State Dept. website would be good.

Barry's got more skeletons in the closet than id care to know about.

Whats wrong with it?

Is he an American?

Would it reveal something that would horrify us?

Oh my nerves I had a whole thing laid out and my computer crashed!

I have a question, If obsama birth certificate is not known about how did he get as far as he has? You have to be an American citizen to be our president? Now is he or isn’t he?

Originally posted by Shar
Oh my nerves I had a whole thing laid out and my computer crashed!

I HATE that!

If obsama birth certificate is not known about how did he get as far as he has? You have to be an American citizen to be our president? Now is he or isn’t he?

How did he get to be a Senator without someone noticing he's not even a US citizen? How did he get a US passport?

It's just silly.

I'm waiting for links to McCain's and Hillary's Birth Certificates! What have they got to hide??? Sorry. This is just so "out there"... I shake my head and wonder about the members here. Isn't there a vetting process for ATS members?? LOL

It's not about citizenship!! It's about being born in the US (or as a US native). They are not the same!

Arnold Schwartzenegger is a citizen, but cannot run for POTUS because he wasn't born here.

Read the posts more closely.