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Originally posted by SymbolicLogic
I'm reading you.
Originally posted by Ansar
Said Document, written in ~1750 in Germany in, up to 2011, unbreakable code, shows quite clearly that the "official" branch of masonry was against any promotion of conspiracy against any rules of society (absolutism at that time).
That is why the author tells his brethren on the last pages of this secret - and so very dear book - because it was done with so much painstaking effort - that all upheaval is to be frowned upon and hopefully won't last.
In my words: "Brethren stay away from any conspiracy. It is no good and will bear no fruit."
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
I have yet to see one individual prove that there is a ‘Masonic’ conspiracy of any type taking place. There has been a distinct inability by numerous posters to support their assertions that Freemasons and/or Freemasonry are somehow participating in various plots and conspiracies with the intention to perform one or more of the following; world domination by ‘high-level’ Masons, conversion to a one-world religion, the practice of worshipping Satan and/or Lucifer, pedophilia, mind-control and gang-stalking among more notable (notorious?) examples.
I have yet to see anyone, anywhere offer even the faintest glimmer of proof that would help substantiate or corroborate these remarks or beliefs. The typical ‘fact’ presented is the re-hashed opinion of another who has done no research of there own.
What is the underlying cause? Are they self-promoting with the hopes of ‘rising’ to the infamy of people like Icke? Are they just regurgitating theories they have heard in regards Masonry? Or are they- and this is the theory I tend to favor- completely unaware that there is no Masonic conspiracy?
I do not think anyone can prove, with the evidence that has thus far been provided, a conspiracy of Masonic nature, nor will they.
Well, as most of the Masons on ATS have stated at one point or another, if there ever did come to light any definitive proof that Freemasonry as an institution was up to anything nefarious, we'd all quit. So when people throw unfounded accusations at us, we ask them to back up their claims. When they can't, we can sit comfortable that our faith in our organization is still well placed.
Originally posted by prevenge
but yeah..tricking the bright minds out there into researching and foolproofing your own loopholes might be a good idea.. if that's not what you're doing.. then i'm sure someone else is busy at it.
Originally posted by prevenge
but yeah..tricking the bright minds out there into researching and foolproofing your own loopholes might be a god idea.. if that's not what you're doing.. then i'm sure someone else is busy at it.
Originally posted by Ansar
Oh, I probably should add that the actual Copiale-Codex-Decipherment-Hype which links the "discovered" "occulist society" (that might be a masonic offspring) to anarchistic activities and speaks of a "terrorist mind set" is not only based on misunderstanding but on some simple and in this case most tragic TRANSLATION ERRORS.
Being a native German speaker a can vouch for that statement.
I made a post about that in the other thread that noone seems to care about because secret and evil plotted masonic activities are so much more fun.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by prevenge
but yeah..tricking the bright minds out there into researching and foolproofing your own loopholes might be a god idea.. if that's not what you're doing.. then i'm sure someone else is busy at it.
An interesting theory and one that I have never come across prior to your post. The flaw that I see is for this to function there needs to be a constant or at least rarely changing heirarchy which Masonry does not have. Otherwise the canard that the 'low levels' know nothing becomes moot if every year we change leadership but somehow the continuity of the counter intelligence plan continues unabated as each successive elected officers would, by virtue of this continuance, had to have been briefed of its scope and aims.
Originally posted by prevenge
why would there need to be a consistent placement of leadership for this to function?
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by prevenge
why would there need to be a consistent placement of leadership for this to function?
How else would the proposed mechanism trigger without executive direction?