Originally posted by christiansoldier
And women STILL don't make equal pay in many places of employment. The facts and statistics bear that out. Here's an article from Business Week from
2004:
Sorry, but Im not going to allow you to come into my thread and spread disinformation.
Whether you know it or not, your statistic are, to be charitible, as credible as uri geller.
First of all those figures only appear when you compare all men with all women. This is not a valid comparison. Why not?
1) a woman at any age, is less likely to have as much work experience as a man of the same age. Women take leave from work to care for family members
at several times the rate men do, which means they dont have the same seniority, experinece, or or track record. It also means that any man of the
same age will most likely gain promotions on her as he is elgible to be promoted and she, being on leave is not. Furthermore women are more likely to
work part time than men are. In addintion, the numbers are skewed by the number of women who choose to be stay at home moms. Its on the rise BTW. As
an example, in any random grouping of 35 year old men and women, the men will on average,have
Ten Years more work experience than the women.
However when you normalise the groups, meaning look at only men and women with the same amount of work experince at that age, the wage gap is less
than 2 cents an hour, which was also BTW within the margin of error for that particular study.
The United States Census shows that the number of children being cared for by stay-at-home moms has increased nearly 13% in less than a decade, while
at the same time, the percentage of new mothers who go back to work fell from 59% in 1998 to 55% in 2000.
Harvard Business School - In a survey of women from the classes of 1981, 1985 and 1991 it was found that only 38% were working full time.
In surveys of professional women across the board - Between one quarter and one third are out of the work-force, depending on the study and the
profession.
Working mothers between the career-building ages of 25 to 44 - Two thirds of them work fewer than 40 hours per week (i.e., part time). Only 5% work 50
or more hours weekly.
Compare these trends with those of men. 95% of white men with M.B.A.'s are working full time, while only 67% of women with M.B.A.'s are working full
time.
Fortune magazine found that of the 108 women who have appeared on its list of the top 50 most powerful women over the years, at least 20 have chosen
to leave their high-powered jobs, most voluntarily, for lives that are less intense and more fulfilling.
2) Women are several times less likely to negotiate thier intial salary, to negotiate for raises, or for better raises.
Why is this important?
Lets take two example harry and sally
Harry and sally both have the same experience, education and skills. Both make 50,000 a year.
lets assume that Sally takes the standard raises offered which are 3% per year. At the end of 20 years shes is now making $90,305.56 per year.
Now lets assume that Harry decides each year to push for more and lets further assume he only gets 2% more per year than sally, mainly becasue he asks
for it. At the end of 20 years harry is making $132,664.89
3) When the wage gap is controlled for factors such as years worked, experinece, skills, etc; There is no wage gap.
June O‘Neill, former director of the Congressional Budget Office, found that among people ages 27 to 33 who havenever had a child, women‘s
earnings approach 98 percent of men‘s.
Facts provided by the May issue of American Economic Review (2003), Women's Figures, by Furchtgott-Roth and Stolba (1999), The Women in the Economy
project, an initiative of the National Center for Policy
Analysis, also see
here
here here
Last month, there was a bill that was for guaranteeing that women made as much as men, for the same work. It didn't pass.
Thats because it passed back in
1963
Just because some men think there's a conspiracy against them, doesn't mean they have to bash women, which is where these types of threads ALWAYS
end up.
I have yet to see any women bashing. I have seen somone come in here and spread feminist disinfo though. I will give you the benefit of the doubt
though and assume, unless you prove otherwise, that you just dont know better.
[edit on 5/6/2008 by Shazam The Unbowed]
[edit on 5/6/2008 by Shazam The Unbowed]
and still have a soft side and show real emotions. He can still cry when the situation calls for it. He can
still get down on the level of kids and play with them as if a he is a kid…and that includes playing with little girls when they want to have a tea
party 
