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Satanists/Atheists attacking ATS?

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posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by drunk

Originally posted by THENEO
Colonel,

you are free to guess what you like but you are incorrect.

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This doesnt make sense telling someone they are frre to guess and then tell them they are incorrect.


Not sure what you mean Drunk? If I asked you to guess my telephone number and said it is your right to do it, I could also say that your guesses were in fact not the true number, correct? I think that is what I meant but maybe it didn't sound like that.




posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:14 PM
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I said I'm not getting in these games with you. However, that would make the authors liars being that they said it was from God and God did speak in the Bible. If the authors lied then the Bible lied.

Neither happenedb/c the Bible is not a lying book.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO

Originally posted by drunk

Originally posted by THENEO
Colonel,

you are free to guess what you like but you are incorrect.

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This doesnt make sense telling someone they are frre to guess and then tell them they are incorrect.


Not sure what you mean Drunk? If I asked you to guess my telephone number and said it is your right to do it, I could also say that your guesses were in fact not the true number, correct? I think that is what I meant but maybe it didn't sound like that.

Soprry dude i'm half asleep i am on medication didnt read the statement properly.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:17 PM
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Lilblam,

I understand where you are coming from but it was evil that stared into my eyes I tell you. I could feel it and sense it all through my body and soul. I was revulsed to a degree I had never been before or since.

It could not have been my imagination either because I did not ask for nor desire that outcome. Oh I had suggested that it may make sense to go to the darkside out of some convenience, maybe that was the invitation that allowed what happened. But the totality of that reality led me to instantly reject it.

Evil exists at the higher levels. Most people on this earth are not capable of such evil even at their worst. That was the lesson I learned.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
I said I'm not getting in these games with you. However, that would make the authors liars being that they said it was from God and God did speak in the Bible. If the authors lied then the Bible lied.

Neither happenedb/c the Bible is not a lying book.


Unless the authors DID lie. I'm sure it makes you feel good thinking that they didn't, but what if they did? What if it's a complete and utter lie designed to control you? What makes you convinced that it's from God, and not something else? Because the authors say so? And because the authors are infallible?



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:21 PM
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Well, to each their own I suppose. If they want to attack ATS, more power to them. It won't do anything more than it is doing now. Everyone believes what they want, and if they want to preach it, more power to them. I know my truth, they know theirs. It is all what you want to believe. Trying to disprove God is no more worse than trying to prove God. No one can prove either way..its just the way it works..

-wD



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by lilblam

Originally posted by Colonel
I said I'm not getting in these games with you. However, that would make the authors liars being that they said it was from God and God did speak in the Bible. If the authors lied then the Bible lied.

Neither happenedb/c the Bible is not a lying book.


Unless the authors DID lie. I'm sure it makes you feel good thinking that they didn't, but what if they did? What if it's a complete and utter lie designed to control you? What makes you convinced that it's from God, and not something else? Because the authors say so? And because the authors are infallible?


Since you like questioning my faith so much, I have this for you:

I'm sure it makes you feel good thinking that they did and its all make believe, but what if they didn't lie? What if it's the complete and utter truth for the key to our salvation? What makes you convinced that it's bogus and what if you're wrong?



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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I think its not attacking its actually spreading the word only.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:23 PM
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I said I'm not getting in these games with you. However, that would make the authors liars being that they said it was from God and God did speak in the Bible. If the authors lied then the Bible lied.

Neither happenedb/c the Bible is not a lying book.



Of course not, the Bible is the " true " word of God


Deep



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by THENEO
Lilblam,

I understand where you are coming from but it was evil that stared into my eyes I tell you. I could feel it and sense it all through my body and soul. I was revulsed to a degree I had never been before or since.

It could not have been my imagination either because I did not ask for nor desire that outcome. Oh I had suggested that it may make sense to go to the darkside out of some convenience, maybe that was the invitation that allowed what happened. But the totality of that reality led me to instantly reject it.

Evil exists at the higher levels. Most people on this earth are not capable of such evil even at their worst. That was the lesson I learned.


Alright... but do you think there could be technology that is utilized to alter your brainwaves and change your brain chemicals in order to fill you with an intense sense of dread, and create a very uncomfortable feeling? Not even "technology" but a psychic attack of a sort...

But fear stems from a service to self perspective... nothing could threaten a service to others entity... your LIFE could be in danger, not your soul.. that's indestructible. Therefore, if one holds on dearly to his physical flesh existance, one can be made to feel intense fear... at the prospect of losing that flesh body.

Life is the last attachment we would have. After you take away all the physical possessions a person has, all the close people to him... EVERYTHING he is emotionally and physically attached to... the only thing left is his own life, which is also an attachment and in order to become service to OTHERS, it must be realised and surpassed.

Therefore, a threat or sense of fear is only invoked at the propect of losing on of the many attachments, one being your life. Also, lack of knowledge of course can create fear because you're not aware of what is indeed there and what possible dangers are posed to you. Fear of the unknown is the problem. The evil might not be so bad and scary if you knew the truth of who/what it was that paid you a visit.

An intense sensation of extreme fear can be created with technological means also, by hyperdimentional 4th density STS. There are indeed many possibilities.

The only reason the evil "went away" when you called upon Jesus and God, is because you BELIEVED it would. Rituals only work if you believe they do. If an atheist called upon Jesus and/or God to take the evil away, because he was told to do it last night by his buddy.. and not because he has an ingrained belief that it will indeed work, it'll do absolutely nothing.

Those people who believe throwing salt over their shoulder will take care of the evil problems could always throw salt and the demon might go away too. Although once again, rituals are self-defeating, and it is absolutely essential to KNOW and understand... only through knowledge, not trust in some ritual.

What if the demon went away so that your assertion that Jesus was what scared him off can be maintained? What if that "demon" was just a 4th density STS alien that was responsible (well others like him too) for all our religions etc... and they daily do such acts to support the religions etc by making people THINK that God, Jesus, whoever they call upon from their religion is there to protect and save them? Can't deny the possibility...



[Edited on 23-2-2004 by lilblam]



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:27 PM
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I guess you'll discover in th end.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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A most surprising response from NEO!

Yes NEO. Beliefs are to each person what they are.

Athiests and Satanists do not hangout on ats to attack christians, that happens because all belief systems are on here.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:29 PM
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I think the Christians have taken control. They claim to have the morals high ground secured. Everyone who doesn't have absolute and complete blind faith in the Bible and Jesus is always wrong. It's OK to be a bigot if the Bible backs it (gay bashing). They don't even take other religions in to account. Buddism, Hindu, Islam, all wrong. Christianity seems to be the only truth.

I have news for you people. The Bible is a book. Like Alice In Wonderland, Aesops Fables and Green Eggs and Ham, it's a work of fiction. It was a moral, many stories do, that doesn't make them true.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:30 PM
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And by the way.......................

NICE TO SEE U TOO, COLONEL! DEATH TO THE REPUBLIKLANSMEN!



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by lilblam

Originally posted by Colonel
I said I'm not getting in these games with you. However, that would make the authors liars being that they said it was from God and God did speak in the Bible. If the authors lied then the Bible lied.

Neither happenedb/c the Bible is not a lying book.


Unless the authors DID lie. I'm sure it makes you feel good thinking that they didn't, but what if they did? What if it's a complete and utter lie designed to control you? What makes you convinced that it's from God, and not something else? Because the authors say so? And because the authors are infallible?


Since you like questioning my faith so much, I have this for you:

I'm sure it makes you feel good thinking that they did and its all make believe, but what if they didn't lie? What if it's the complete and utter truth for the key to our salvation? What makes you convinced that it's bogus and what if you're wrong?


Am I wrong to question the motives an the truth? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. But until you know for sure, conviction one way or another is detrimental to progress and learning.

However, given many inconsistencies and other crap in the Bible and the obvious techniques to manipulate and control... and the basic understanding of reality and certain dualities in existance like service to self and service to others, one can safely say that the source of such a book is service to self. Also, given enough knowledge, you can deduct that the Bible has many lies within it that are psychologically put in to effect the mind directly, to pray on our insecurities and to establish an iron hold on those insecurities and the people privy to the dogmas within the teachings. Especially ignorant people who do not know any better, and who are seeking a way to be happy.



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
I guess you'll discover in th end.


Guess so



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:34 PM
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There are two paths in life, " I Ego ", and the " Ego I ".
One puts " I " before " Ego " , the other " Ego " before " I ", one of them abuses powers of " en mass inlfuence ".
Which is it?

Deep



posted on Feb, 23 2004 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
There are two paths in life, " I Ego ", and the " Ego I ".
One puts " I " before " Ego " , the other " Ego " before " I ", one of them abuses powers of " en mass inlfuence ".
Which is it?

Deep


Well, the ego is something that is a huge part of a service to self perspective, but the "I" is also SELF, so I'm confused. Isn't the ego part of YOU that needs to be cleared out if one is to progress? The "I" (to me at least) doesn't seem to be separate from the ego until the ego is no more...



posted on Feb, 24 2004 @ 08:13 AM
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satan was a good man
a beautiful angel he was
but god was a ding o ling
a jealous god he was



posted on Feb, 24 2004 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by THENEO
Even though there has been many threads and often with large post counts, we still on a daily basis get the ubitiquous 'there is no god,' or christianity is the root of all evil, or Jesus was this color, or Islam is the demon faith etc., kind of threads being started.

Is it just me or do you agree or disagree with my premise here? How much do we have to thrash out the same subject here over and over?

I totally agree
Even thpught i really dont like muslim people



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