Originally posted by theendisnear69

Originally posted by Odessy

Originally posted by Ox
These are the "hero's" defending our country by raping and murdering innocent men, women and children. Killing innocent animals.. ugh.. I despise the military.

There are PLENTY of heroes in our military...
so much so that they outweigh the bad.

wow now that's funny. I really don't see how there could be heroes in a war that is unjust. All the soldiers over there are killing people that have never once attacked our country. Really show me the heroes

You have no clue what your talking about. And you insulting ignorance makes me sick.

I am United States Marine sent home when a IED went off next to our M998. And for you to one second question that my fellow wounded soulders that pulled me out and got me to, safety, aren't heros is slap in a face everytime you enjoy your freedom, including that computer to voice your opinion, someone like them gave you that. No, heros are not made with guns, but created with heart. So please never say there are no heros in the military, I can gather from your blinders you wear that you havn't seen war, so you wouldn't know. There is nothing wronge with that, but to say such a thing you must be well informed of the topic. So shut your lips.

ATS please excuse my harsh words, but that is one of the most hurtful things i have read.

[edit on 4-3-2008 by UnitedSatesofFreemasons]

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
How many dogs have you actually seen thrown? I have seen my share.

Yes, but that was back in the days when dog tossing was an acceptable form of social bonding for male adolescents.

I kid, but seriously, where was it that you witnessed all of this canine catapultery?

When a soldier or a marine goes into battle; they no longer fight for their country, beliefs or anyone at home, they fight for themselves and their fellow men and women who fight alongside them. The term Brothers in Arms comes to mind. They are willing to die for each other because when they are over there, they are almost the only family they have. Someone correct me if the wording is somewhat incorrect.

Originally posted by UnitedSatesofFreemasons

Originally posted by theendisnear69

Originally posted by Odessy

Originally posted by Ox
These are the "hero's" defending our country by raping and murdering innocent men, women and children. Killing innocent animals.. ugh.. I despise the military.

There are PLENTY of heroes in our military...
so much so that they outweigh the bad.

wow now that's funny. I really don't see how there could be heroes in a war that is unjust. All the soldiers over there are killing people that have never once attacked our country. Really show me the heroes

You have no clue what your talking about. And you insulting ignorance makes me sick.

I am United States Marine sent home when a IED went off next to our M998. And for you to one second question that my fellow wounded soulders that pulled me out and got me to the MK4815 aren't heros is slap in a face everytime you enjoy your freedom, including that computer to voice your opinion, someone like them gave you that. No, heros are not made with guns, but created with heart. So please never say there are no heros in the military, I can gather from your blinders you wear that you havn't seen war, so you wouldn't know. There is nothing wronge with that, but to say such a thing you must be well informed of the topic. So shut your lips.

of course when you risk your own life to save somebody elses life you are indeed a hero and I never said they weren't. But I cannot call the men that carry guns in the name of this war heros. And once again soldiers did not have to sign up. By signing up your giving in to the corrupt people that only have evil intentions. So you are not carrying a gun for America but for those people.

And the soldiers are most definitley not protecting my freedoms, because there is nobody trying to take them away.

Originally posted by spec_ops_wannabe
When a soldier or a marine goes into battle; they no longer fight for their country, beliefs or anyone at home, they fight for themselves and their fellow men and women who fight alongside them. The term Brothers in Arms comes to mind. They are willing to die for each other because when they are over there, they are almost the only family they have. Someone correct me if the wording is somewhat incorrect.

You are 100% correct. At least for me and everyone in 3rd battalion 25th Marine agrees that it is the man next to you. At times you find your self trying to fit your whole body underneath your helmet, but come out when you see your fellow men in distress. Its the Peace Between us in a Land of No Peace.

I have a friend who works with this guy’s mother. She is getting death threats, been told her house is going to be burnt down.

The place she works at is getting calls with people screaming at the receptionist. They demand the woman be fired. News crews are set up at her house. What is with these sick people?

Don’t they know the guy is an Adult! Once the Marines get your son, he will never be the same... good or bad.

This is not the mother’s fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by DisabledVet
A SOLDIERS JOB IS TO DESTROY, MAIM, KILL, INSULT, EMBARRASS, AND PILLAGE......nothing more.

first i was going to say, it's obvious you were never in the military... then I saw your screen name... then I got a chill that ran down my back, letting me know you are probably of the majority.

Originally posted by Ox
This is just horrifying.. Just plain disgusting.. I hope these people are brought to justice.. like.. being thrown from a helicopter screaming.. or locked in a portable toilet and set on fire with the rest of the turds.. And he shrugs.. and no one tries to stop him..

I got an idea.. big brave soldier boy.. Why don't you come try that on me.

Ahh you wouldn't, you spineless little bimbo.. These are the "hero's" defending our country by raping and murdering innocent men, women and children. Killing innocent animals.. ugh.. I despise the military.

I dunno... saying that you despise the military is a pretty strong quote... Seems like you have alot of hate and misdirected hostility towards them. And that's strong talk challenging "big brave soldier boy" in an internet post. You're a brave guy!... the reality of the situation is that you would probably not say anything to this guys face. He's the one overseas getting shot at and killing people. He's the one that "obviously" has accrued mental and emotional damage from combat. what do you do tough guy?... you talk Sh*t in a chat room. You should just stop. Leave the violence to the pro's. Killing someone takes a part of you that you NEVER get back. That feeling is something that I would not wish on you. You're supposed to DENY Ignorance not REPRESENT it. Speaking about something in which you know nothing of is pretty ignorant IMHO. "raping and murdering innocent men, women and children." yep thats what ALL members of the military do. I remember when I signed my contract in the USMC they asked me if I was ready to rape murder pillage and burn innocents I and Said "Hell YEAH!!" C'mon man, your ignorance leaves me speechless... The guy obviously has problems and it is what it is. I'm sure you don't watch the "ASPCA" cops on animal planet and get this worked up. Standing in front of the television screaming at perps "WHY DON'T YOU COME TRY THAT ON ME!!!" ... I'm as outraged as you are that a person could commit that sort of violence on an animal (if it is indeed real)... but seriously... settle down and stop being a tool.

of course when you risk your own life to save somebody elses life you are indeed a hero and I never said they weren't. But I cannot call the men that carry guns in the name of this war heros. And once again soldiers did not have to sign up. By signing up your giving in to the corrupt people that only have evil intentions. So you are not carrying a gun for America but for those people.

And the soldiers are most definitley not protecting my freedoms, because there is nobody trying to take them away.

Oh the esay life you live. I joined for 3 reasons. School. Family Income. sister a 9/11 victum. Im not saying that they aren't currupt because believe me i NOW know it was an inside job. But at the time my back was against the wall, i had no other choices. Again the only thing i am trieing to stress to you people about your comments is stop using generalities, there is so much you never hear about, you don't know what you don't know.
Im sorry if i offend anyone on ATS. Your just hittin home-

If I had to shoot at humans that may somehow be related to me, I too would be doing other things to distance myself from feeling in between gun battles. If I can throw this puppy off a cliff, I wont slip back into sentimental thought mode.
I dont care if this video is real or not.
That is besides the point.
Maybe if we used our intelligence, there would be no stage for such an event. Or staged event.

The fact that anyone would want to portray the troops like that is what makes me see what is really going on.

Why cant we convince everyone that war is justifiable? Whats with that?

Originally posted by theendisnear69

of course when you risk your own life to save somebody elses life you are indeed a hero and I never said they weren't. But I cannot call the men that carry guns in the name of this war heros. And once again soldiers did not have to sign up. By signing up your giving in to the corrupt people that only have evil intentions. So you are not carrying a gun for America but for those people.

And the soldiers are most definitley not protecting my freedoms, because there is nobody trying to take them away.

well then what are you saying?
These men that are rescuing their comrades have carried guns in the name of this war.

really? people who sign up are giving in to people that ONLY have evil intentions?
ok, if you say so...
but, you really do live a comfortable life...

if you have no convictions later on for saying some of these things, then so be it. but the people in this war, on BOTH sides, are not all evil people.

i bet most of the us soldiers just join the army because of their financial condition , and some want to see action , but i do not cosider them heroes most are just dogs that cant think for themselves and believe everything they are say

Originally posted by dracodie
i bet most of the us soldiers just join the army because of their financial condition , and some want to see action , but i do not cosider them heroes most are just dogs that cant think for themselves and believe everything they are say

ouch, thats one hell of a bet to make.

If you get the chance to chat with some military people, you should.
you may be surprised to see that they are a lot like you and I.

[edit on 4-3-2008 by Odessy]