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The stars in our Galaxy (Milky Way) orbit a central spot believed to be a super-massive black hole. They orbit due to the gravatational pull of the
therorised black hole, it is just like the gravitational pull our star has on the planets in our solar system, keeping them in orbit, but on a much
larger scale a time frame.
Leaked images of Nibiru orbited by Planet X taken by South Pole Station Telescope, page 26
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reply posted on 27-10-2008 @ 02:18 PM by ngchunter
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If it's alongside the sun, you don't have to be at the southern tip of africa to see it, you could be anywhere in the world and see it eventually. I saw it at sunrise this morning too, it was the planet mercury. That and the crescent moon are the only things rising just before the sun right now. Here's a picture:
farm4.static.flickr.com...
[edit on 27-10-2008 by ngchunter]
If it's alongside the sun, you don't have to be at the southern tip of africa to see it, you could be anywhere in the world and see it eventually. I saw it at sunrise this morning too, it was the planet mercury. That and the crescent moon are the only things rising just before the sun right now. Here's a picture:
farm4.static.flickr.com...
[edit on 27-10-2008 by ngchunter]
reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 10:46 AM by booda
dont know if this has been posted or if you have seen it before....
I followed this myself and what this guy says is real....you need to download and install Microsoft Worlwide telescope and follow this guide...
uk.youtube.com...
interesting discovery.....
I followed this myself and what this guy says is real....you need to download and install Microsoft Worlwide telescope and follow this guide...
uk.youtube.com...
interesting discovery.....
reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 01:03 PM by ngchunter
reply to post by booda
Can't view youtube atm, could anyone post a screenshot? Sounds like another google sky "missing panel" in some well-studied part of the sky again. I don't know why people bother to make videos about this when static screenshots are the more appropriate medium, but I guess it's just to get attention on youtube.
Can't view youtube atm, could anyone post a screenshot? Sounds like another google sky "missing panel" in some well-studied part of the sky again. I don't know why people bother to make videos about this when static screenshots are the more appropriate medium, but I guess it's just to get attention on youtube.
reply posted on 24-11-2008 @ 06:22 PM by booda
Originally posted by ngchunter
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Can't view youtube atm, could anyone post a screenshot? Sounds like another google sky "missing panel" in some well-studied part of the sky again. I don't know why people bother to make videos about this when static screenshots are the more appropriate medium, but I guess it's just to get attention on youtube.
Yes and no....something is missing but when you change the filters..something really bright shows up....bed now but Ill try do it tomorrow....
reply posted on 25-11-2008 @ 08:55 AM by ngchunter
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Is it this thing again?
If it is, it's just a regular planet, venus I believe, which happened to get caught in an IRIS image used to make the google sky and WWT IR maps, but wasn't there when the optical surveys were done. That's why it only shows up when you "change filters" and it's also why it just happens to be sitting on the ecliptic line perfectly. You have to remember that neither are real telescopes, they're just compositions of previously conducted sky surveys and they were not recorded simultaneously.
[edit on 25-11-2008 by ngchunter]
Is it this thing again?
If it is, it's just a regular planet, venus I believe, which happened to get caught in an IRIS image used to make the google sky and WWT IR maps, but wasn't there when the optical surveys were done. That's why it only shows up when you "change filters" and it's also why it just happens to be sitting on the ecliptic line perfectly. You have to remember that neither are real telescopes, they're just compositions of previously conducted sky surveys and they were not recorded simultaneously.
[edit on 25-11-2008 by ngchunter]
reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 08:03 AM by booda
reply to post by ngchunter
that seems to make sense - never thought of the ecliptic line...thanks for the education...
that seems to make sense - never thought of the ecliptic line...thanks for the education...
reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 04:37 AM by Zahhar
reply to post by WhiteWash
Well there's two primary ways that come to mind. One, Sol and another star began as orbiting accretion disks. In fact, the gravity of one could affect the accretion process of the other. Two, Sol catches a smaller star and its planetary system into its orbit.
The second idea appeals more to me somehow. If our solar system was in a binary orbit with another star without our being able to observe it directly, it would have to be a pretty small star--the smallest of red dwarfs even. Dim little suckers, and long lived. There are supposed millions upon millions of them out there, wandering our galactic plane with us, too dim to register on our land or space based telescopes.
The planetary system of such a star might be no broader than two or three times the orbital reach of Jupiter's moons, which would allow it to pass through Sol's orbital plane without hitting or even necessarily affecting much of anything. But that star would be dragging its own load of stuff around, it's heliosphere, it's cloud of crap, it's comets and asteroids. Any one of these or any part of one of these could jump orbits and join our own little family of debris.
Could also make an interesting theory for explaining how Neptune's pole got knocked atilt, if a red dwarf whipped by her one day close enough to throw her off and tangle her moons into spaghetti orbits.
Well, it's fun speculating.
Well there's two primary ways that come to mind. One, Sol and another star began as orbiting accretion disks. In fact, the gravity of one could affect the accretion process of the other. Two, Sol catches a smaller star and its planetary system into its orbit.
The second idea appeals more to me somehow. If our solar system was in a binary orbit with another star without our being able to observe it directly, it would have to be a pretty small star--the smallest of red dwarfs even. Dim little suckers, and long lived. There are supposed millions upon millions of them out there, wandering our galactic plane with us, too dim to register on our land or space based telescopes.
The planetary system of such a star might be no broader than two or three times the orbital reach of Jupiter's moons, which would allow it to pass through Sol's orbital plane without hitting or even necessarily affecting much of anything. But that star would be dragging its own load of stuff around, it's heliosphere, it's cloud of crap, it's comets and asteroids. Any one of these or any part of one of these could jump orbits and join our own little family of debris.
Could also make an interesting theory for explaining how Neptune's pole got knocked atilt, if a red dwarf whipped by her one day close enough to throw her off and tangle her moons into spaghetti orbits.
Well, it's fun speculating.
reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 05:14 AM by Waldy
reply to post by Zahhar
Interesting theory but Im afraid it holds no water, the gravitational effects of another system so close would have prevented the formation of our solarsystem as it is. The planets would not have the perfect round orbits they have because they would be pulled slightly towards the other system.
Also two solarsystems simply can not form within each other or co-exist like you are suggesting. A red dwarf that close orbiting would "steal" the oort clout from our sun.
The binary system you are suggesting is possible but it would result in elliptical orbits of the planets and possibly create small planet sized comets. It would be very chaotic from the start and earth as we know it would never have formed even.
Interesting theory but Im afraid it holds no water, the gravitational effects of another system so close would have prevented the formation of our solarsystem as it is. The planets would not have the perfect round orbits they have because they would be pulled slightly towards the other system.
Also two solarsystems simply can not form within each other or co-exist like you are suggesting. A red dwarf that close orbiting would "steal" the oort clout from our sun.
The binary system you are suggesting is possible but it would result in elliptical orbits of the planets and possibly create small planet sized comets. It would be very chaotic from the start and earth as we know it would never have formed even.
reply posted on 19-12-2008 @ 05:28 AM by Waldy
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There was a group of Japanese dudes that theorized based on their computer model that there might be another planet in the far outskirts of the solarsystem. It is due to their model lacks a mass in that area to resemble 4 billion years of simulation. It is far fetched to say the least, it is 30% of the earths mass and is not necessary one body but could be thousands of asteroids. Elliptical orbit is the norm that far out, the "shell" around us is tear shaped and egg shaped orbits on the edge is nothing to worry about.
There was a group of Japanese dudes that theorized based on their computer model that there might be another planet in the far outskirts of the solarsystem. It is due to their model lacks a mass in that area to resemble 4 billion years of simulation. It is far fetched to say the least, it is 30% of the earths mass and is not necessary one body but could be thousands of asteroids. Elliptical orbit is the norm that far out, the "shell" around us is tear shaped and egg shaped orbits on the edge is nothing to worry about.
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