Leaked images of Nibiru orbited by Planet X taken by South Pole Station Telescope, page 27
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reply posted on 24-12-2008 @ 02:25 PM by Anonymous ATS
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How unfortunate.If those who are in power wanted to help people, the answer would be all too easy. There are more than enough enterprising individuals who'd only be too willing to help. But no, they want to help no one, so the answer is very difficult. They have to maintain a cloak, while they hide the info, while they prepare themselves so only they can escape. Isn't that too bad?

What if, by some bare chance...it comes and nothing happens? What then? Those who hid the information will lose....There is that chance.

This Nibiru thing is interesting. The more I found out, the less I do know. If this thing cause all those problems, every 3600 years, how did the civilizations that lived before 10,000 bc prosper enough to establish a civilization world wide from 50,000 to 13000 BC? How come it was only since the 10,000bc era that this object has plagued humans, and they are always being put in a position to not be able to defend themselves...

There are a lot of things people don't know. Probably the best chance man has, is to understand himself first. Then he has a chance. Otherwise, he doesn't.

Every civilization set up on this planet to date, has fallen on it's head. In each case, it is betrayed from within. Just like this one.

The bust for planet X, is a population that is properly educated, and which can think, and look, and act. Do we have that now? How did that come about? Who has monopolized the school systems today? What are kids taught? Who has flooded the world with useless electronic gadgets for amusement, and supplied more than enough things to entertain populations so they can't think? Talk to people and ask them to be original about anything, and prepare to be surprised, because not many are original at all. The only things they can tell you, is what they saw on TV, what they were taught in school, what someone else said about fashion. Don't ask them for their own unadulterated opinion about anything. Don't ask them to think outside the box that is the corporate media.

In fact, I can even make it grimmer. The advice we should be giving our kids is:,"Look here, If you can not think for yourself, and stand on your own two feet, then no kind of help I give you will ever work". I'd hammer those words in and in and in and in, until he hears them and screams. Because, if you told your kid that, you'd have a person, instead of a zombie. But what do parents tell their kids? They give them video games to shut them up and keep them occupied. They tell the kids,"Listen to me, or no dinner". If you stand up to any adult, I will (punish you). If you stand for yourself at all, you will be punished.

And to boot, religions don't encourage personal responsibility, and original thought. No way!(Scientology does, and that's why they are shot by the media right left and centre, and countries are trying to ban them. Ask yourself why)

Now, take this background and tell me it is not true. Take this background, and tell me if any race that uses it is not toast. Take this background, and ask yourself if whoever works to bring it about, is himself a traitor.

Yes, aliens exist. Nibiru exists. Man lives. If you have to help man, understand him. Don't condemn him. Understand the world in which he lives, maybe you can help him then.

Probably the only way to help him, is to show him he can stand on his own two feet, and that he can think. If he tells you, "to err is to human", tell him that whoever told him that, either didn't know what he was doing, or set him up. You must think and take action if you want to live at all. That's what life is all about anyway.


reply posted on 30-1-2009 @ 04:11 AM by Malfeitor
I'm not even going to comment on the video, since I'm no photo expert, but I do have a few tidbits to bring to the table about astrophysics and common theory.
I've said it in other Nibiru threads, and I'll say it again: It is an undisputed fact that there is a large gravitational force beyond the orbit of Neptune which has caused a noticable orbital wobble, visible from the time of the planet's discovery. This is not a new fact at all. The only reason we found Pluto in the first place was because we had scientific fact that there was something out there, and enough people were looking to find the ninth planet. What has been debated over the decades, however, is that neither Pluto or the other known planetoids beyond Neptune have a large enough gravitational well to cause such a wobble; hence, there is something rather large and undiscovered in the space outside of the known planets.
Also, I've heard theories since I was a child of something known as the Nemesis Star, supposedly the Sun's orbital twin. One thing which has puzzled scientists for years is that most stars are binary, and ours is not, though it has the "makings" of a binary star. Add that to the legends of the Nemesis Star and Nibiru, well... That is the only reason I'm bothering to post here. I think the idea is rediculous, personally, but I know enough about our solar system to at least give it thought.
I read a previous post which stated that it would be highly unlikely for two stars to be in an eliptical orbit around a large, dark object. Quite the contrary, I must say. Most of the known universe is comprised of dark matter, a mysterious substance which has only been proven in recent years. We know so little about it that we can scarcely go beyond proving its existence; its funny, in a way. On that note, the entire galaxy is orbiting one of those massive, invisible forces; we call it a supermassive black hole. As for the likelyhood of stars being in an eliptical orbit, its actually not as far-fetched as it seems. Two stars of equal mass will, in time, settle into a stable orbit; two stars of inequal mass, however, would have a much more difficult time doing so. Either the orbit would stabilize within a few billion years, or the gravitational effect would cause one of the stars to become something like a cosmic slingshot, causing the smaller star to possibly become what is known as a hypervelocity star. Its unlikely, but possible; it is thought that this is usually caused by supernova or fluctuations within the gravitational well of a black hole. Now theres an unsound but possible thought; what if our star and its dire twin are orbiting a black hole, and we simply haven't seen it? They're only visible when they're "eating"...
As I said earlier, I don't believe this is the case; I'm more of the "shifting axis" sort of doomsday theorist. I'm forced to acknowledge the facts and think about it, though. The possibility is somewhat frightening.


reply posted on 30-1-2009 @ 11:39 PM by obsidience
reply to post by Malfeitor



You are full of inadequate information aren't you. To add to ngchunter's comments:

www.cfa.harvard.edu...

By combining these two facts, Lada came to the realization that most star systems in the Galaxy are composed of solitary red dwarfs.


en.wikipedia.org...

In astronomy and cosmology, dark matter is hypothetical matter



reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 11:46 AM by Malfeitor
reply to post by obsidience



I never claimed that I was right; I haven't looked at a single astronomy book since the early 90's. Then again, I never pointed fingers at the people with whom I didn't agree; your sarcastic tone is not appreciated.


reply posted on 1-2-2009 @ 02:27 PM by obsidience
reply to post by Malfeitor



Malfeitor, apologies for sounding hostile. The reason for my post was an attempt to contain bad information because bad information has the uncanny ability to become fact, law and religion to people on the internet.

Best regards,

Obsidience


reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 04:44 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by stumason



My sentiments exactly! It makes more sense that an advanced alien culture could create mankind rather than some bloke with a white beard sitting on a cloud. The Nibiru theory is a plausible way of aliens getting here, perhaps speed of light travel is not scientifically possible, ever!
This is why the evolution of man "jumps" every so often. All this is highly plausible.

Paul R



reply posted on 23-2-2009 @ 01:35 PM by ngchunter
Originally posted by DaWhiz
And there is the matter of the Green Comet
news.aol.com... , which you can view today!

The universe does not operate under such idealism. There are more examples of orbiting bodies in retrograde or even opposite orbiting directions than what you call orderly. Two perfect examples are Sirius A, B and C

What does that have to do with a massive object in a highly elongated orbit wrecking havoc with the orbits of OUR planets in OUR solar system? A comet is not massive and could not affect our orbit, while its own orbit is easily affected relative to the planets.

[edit on 23-2-2009 by ngchunter]
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