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Originally posted by PalasheeaSo don't belittle Lazar for taking on odd jobs .... they all do that when the gov't cuts back on federal funding.
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by ZeroGhost
Everything I have heard from Bob has the "ring of truth". and my own sense is he is on the up and up.
You know, ZG, I recognize the fact that your mileage may vary. You didn't catch his snafus when Bob attempted to wander into the realm of physics. You don't know that, the way physics education works, it's impossible to become a "ghost" without record or recollection either at MIT or Caltech. You also don't seem to realize that once you lose your qualifications real quick if you elect to switch from physics to running photo finish shops and brothels in Vegas. Fine. For the members of Heaven's Gate, whatever their guru said had the "ring of truth". Amen.
Watch out for the comets.
His snafu with protons causing release of antimatter from Element 115 speaks volumes. I'm referring to that cozy evening he had with John Lear, where he showed a piece of the alleged 115... Which would have been immediately irradiated by the protons from cosmic rays! Which the poor chap didn't know. He knows a piece of this, a piece of that... With huge gaps in between and no real knowledge. A self-educated charlatane.
Originally posted by Palasheea
I grew up in a NASA neighborhood and there were lay-offs going on all of time where we would be seeing NASA engineer's and physicists working at the corner drug store as stockers just make ends meet waiting to be re-hired again...
So don't belittle Lazar for taking on odd jobs .... they all do that when the gov't cuts back on federal funding.
Originally posted by OSSkyWatcher
and did the scientists working on the atomic bomb produce anything during that time they were working on the atomic bomb? i really doubt it because it all would have been top secret for the safety of the nation
why would lazar or any scientist working on a secret project produce anything for anyone without a clearance?
Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army
But one of the greatest weapons the intelligence community has at their disposal is a predisposition by the American people, the American politicians and the debunkers — people who wish to try to debunk Ufo information.
They immediately come out and say, oh, we can’t keep secrets, we can’t keep secrets. Well, the truth is, yes, we can.
Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin: Army National Guard Reserves
“One older officer discussed with me what possibly could happen if there was a revelation. He was talking about being erased and I said, ‘Man, what do you mean erased?’ And, he said, ‘Yes, you will be erased — disappear.’
And I said, ‘How do you know all this?’ And he said, ‘I know. Those threats have been made and carried out. Those threats started way back in 1947. The Army Air Force was given absolute control over how to handle this. This being the biggest security situation that this country has ever dealt with and there have been some erasures…’
“I don’t care what kind of a person you are. I don’t care how strong or courageous you are. It would be a very fearful situation because from what Matt [this older officer] said, ‘They will go after not only you. They will go after your family.’ Those were his words. And, so I can only say that the reason that they have managed to keep it under wraps for so long is through fear. They are very selective about how they pull someone out to make an example of. And I know that that has been done.”
“Dr. B”: [I know who this is]
“I know that some people I worked with did disappear on certain programs and were never heard from again. They just disappeared. There has been evidence of that all through my work. You know, that people go out on projects [and disappear]. But [to protect myself from this] I wouldn’t go any further on a project because I could see something strange coming. So, a lot of people have disappeared you know, that are higher up.”
Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO (National Reconnaissance Office) Operative
“I became part of a group that would investigate, gather the information, and in the beginning it was still under the Blue Book, Snowbird and different covert programs.
I would go interview people who claimed they had seen something and try to convince them they hadn’t seen something or that they were hallucinating. Well, if that didn’t work, another team would come in and give all the threats. And threaten them and their family and so on and so forth. And they would be in charge of discrediting them, making them look foolish and so on and so forth. Now if that didn’t work, then there was another team that put an end to that problem, one way or another.”
Originally posted by ZeroGhost
I understand that element 115 did in actuality exist in our cyclotrons at that time but only for thousandths of a second as it was unstable like Californium and other exotics. Now we have a stable version. Got to update the table!
This element was supposedly from reactions in the cores of stars (like Iron) but that this particular atom would only form in a double star, of which 2/3rds of the stars actually are.
Originally posted by Topcat14
Can anyone show me a link where Element 115 was talked about before Lazar talked about it? Don’t give me the bunk that so and so said there were papers published on Element 115,show me a actual link that has nothing to do with Bob Lazar that talks about Element 115 before Bob Lazar did
How do you account for the 1982 story in the Los Alamos Monitor news article mentioning Lazar, a physicist at the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility?
How do you account for the documented fact Lazar could bring people out in the desert to watch lets say- usual test flights?
We know Bob was employed or worked at some capacity at Los Alamos
We know from the W2 that Lazar worked in some capacity at Area 51
Originally posted by MajesticTwelve
reply to post by buddhasystem
Dont you have anything other to do than debunk lazar in every thread on this forum?
Originally posted by buddhasystem
We don't have the stable version. Elements do not "exist in our cyclotrons" but are created by a variety of techniques, and the 115 was made by fusion of two lighter nuclei, accelerated, indeed in a cyclotron (or other type of accelerator). "Versions" of elements are called isotopes, by the way..
Originally posted by buddhasystemI am sorry I have to say that, but the above paragraph of your is sheer nonsense. It would be best to avoid comments on areas of human knowledge in which your own understanding is severely lacking. Which, in my theory, is why Lazar "rings true" to you, with his outlandish claims...
For your reference, elements heavier than iron are thought to be created in supernovae explosions