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Originally posted by RWPBR
Scratch an atimason and you will find an antisemite.
Originally posted by LightinDarkness
reply to post by NewWorldOver
This is the nonsense I'm talking about.
Rabid, conspiratorial, unfounded character slander in an attempt to stave off ANY logic or reason about Masonry and secret societies.
I'm sorry, but this is a CONSPIRACY THEORY FORUM, Anti-Masons. You are NOT allowed to post whatever you want without having to worry about people bringing logic and reason to your theories about our organization.
I'm just going to leave this thread alone before I get riled up. I am disgusted at the way Anti-Masons bully this forum, though.
Originally posted by Rockpuck
So, in theory, this thread should have been a simple matter of "it is not Masonic" instead of 4 pages or so of petty arguing.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
I still have not had my question answered by the original poster. It was fairly simple and straight forward; What is Masonic about the memorial?
Originally posted by NewWorldOver
What is Masonic about Obelisks?
Being a Mason yourself it seems silly to even ask that question.
If the OP didn't answer you, what can we do? Force him? If you as Masons don't believe this is even an obelisk, that it's an unrelated pyramid, than why not leave it at that? I am painfully aware of the reason why...
I certainly believe that a pyramid or structure of any sort on ground zero of the first nuclear blast is significant. If it's not of Masonic origin, so be it... no need to doggy-pile the thread with the aim that the discussion simply die out. But again, I am painfully aware why this seems to happen in EVERY thread mentioning Masons. And I'll leave it at that.
The heart of Hiram Abif was enclosed in an urn, and exposed for nine days on the three steps of the sanctum sanctorum, previous to the finishing of the temple, and then placed on the top of a beautiful obelisk, which was built on the side of the temple, at the west door, a little to the north, in order to mark out the place where the murderers had first deposited him in a pit, before they removed him to the place where Stolkin found him under the sprig of Cassia.
There are four major obelisks that were erected by Freemasons in the 19th century.
The first obelisk was brought to France from Thebes, Egypt, and was placed in Paris's Revolution Square the site of mass public guillotining during the Mason lead Bloody French Revolution.
The second obelisk was brought to England from Alexandria, Egypt, and was placed next to the Thames river in London.
The third obelisk was brought to America in 1881 from Alexandria, Egypt, and was placed in Central Park in New York City.
The fourth obelisk is the Washington Monument, built to commemorate our First President, George Washington(who was a Free Mason). In light of the symbols which we have just studied, which have been built into the layout of Government Center. The Washington Monument was constructed by Masons, according to Masonic tradition, as a symbol that this country was controlled by Freemasonry from the very beginning.