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Originally posted by siouxm
You seriously almost died from the chicken pox? For real? That's sounds completely unbelievable to me.
A funeral is to be held today for eight-year-old Heather Faith Douglas of Owen Sound who died Saturday from rare complications following a bout of chicken pox.
The US health system is pathetic- cost and management wise, but the quality of the care is excellent. Are you saying every major medical university and half trained doctor is in on this "conspiracy"??
Poverty, poor sanitation and a dense population make this a fertile ground for infection.
As a result of the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, polio has been eradicated in many parts of the world.
Because of vaccines, these diseases are no longer common in Canada.
The study looked at 27,749 students in grades kindergarten through 12th grade in a Montreal school district and found 187 cases of autism. The vast majority of these cases (more than 90%) were born in years in which thimerosal vaccines were widely used for infants in Quebec, as they were in the US. Only a tiny fraction of the autism students were born when thimerosal-free DTP and Hib vaccines were given, and these students may have been exposed to thimerosal from the Hepatitis B vaccine newly recommended for infants of foreign born parents, which made up over one fourth of the greater Montreal population.
he has declared himself an expert witness on behalf of various pharmaceutical companies in thimerosal-related litigation
Originally posted by LibBLVRdoc
reply to post by stompk
As both a retired 'Doc', as well as a very Liberal
and aware person;
Originally posted by dk3000
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by dk3000
Back in 1982 the California gay community was invited to free vaccinations (we were told it was Globulin shots) I opted out at the last minute- but every one of my friends who received the vaccine died within a year.
Died of what, the shot or their lifestyles?
I got the Globulin for years in the military. It is basically a super powerful penicillin type drug and we would get it since we spent a good amount of time in very under develop countries in Africa etc. The shot is only good for about 3 to 6 months though.
[edit on 24-11-2007 by Xtrozero]
If you had read my original post- These friends died from AIDS. Several were not promiscuous and had been in long-term monogamous relationships. One friend was Joseph Tullock- who was head of Publicity/Marketing for Columbia Motion Pictures Corp. Joe was in a relationship for 10 years and was very helpful in getting the Gay Community center started on Highland Avenue!
At the time The Advocate and Frontiers hadn't even started yet. There was a little rag called Data Boy Magazine started by Saul Suffron (died of AIDS) now- Saul was promiscuous but several of the people I am referring to were not.
Before the Gay Community was organized there was a group called "Network" and it was a social club which had parties at private homes- some major stars and big shots (this was the circuit before there was a circuit!!!!)- and most of these guys are long dead. People like, Gordon Strubie, Bobby Weiztel, Sheldon Andelson and Harry Weiss (attorney who trained Robert Shapiro and F. Lee Bailey.. to name a few). This isn't some hooey conspiracy- this crap happened- and Lyndon LaRouche with the help of Carl Karcher's (Carl's Jr.) money tried to implement a proposition to quarantine all sick gay people- and it was the assistance of the above mentioned heavyweights that nailed those pricks!
Its funny there was the whole bath-house closure issue (which I happened to agree with as did many) but the hetero whorehouses and screwclubs remained open and believe me they were just as twisted and perverse.
This was a very concerted effort to kill the gay community until Rock Hudson stepped up to the plate!
So if you want to try to track down the vaccine offer- good luck finding DataBoy materials. Sal, Saul and the rest of his staff died within a year and you can do the research on that!
About six months later Frontiers began mass publication and took over that market.
I will say this again for the folks in the cheap seats... Many powerful people stepped up to the plate and a community came together for survival and it was a very frightening and horrible time... HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS DIED and out of this I would easily say that half or even a quarter did not lead the lifestyle which would lead to a sexually transmitted disease related death.
You are going to need to dig a little deeper. I am not saying the Hepatitis vaccine is not a healthy thing- I am saying the gay community was sold on free hepatitis vaccines- and I doubt that Globulin's was in those syringes....There I said it!
[edit on 26-11-2007 by dk3000]
Originally posted by RogerT
Originally posted by dk3000
Back in 1982 the California gay community was invited to free vaccinations (we were told it was Globulin shots) which would prevent the spread of HIV/Aids or what we called "gay cancer". This was just the beginning and the community was scared and many of my friends and myself went down to Laguna Beach for the vaccines. I opted out at the last minute- but every one of my friends who received the vaccine died within a year.
I was fascinated by these comments and had to have a look around.
I'm sure you are aware of Cantwell's work on this subject, but felt it apropos to post a couple of his quotes about this exact same thing:
"As soon as homosexuals signed up as guinea pigs for government-sponsored hepatitis B vaccine experiments, they began to die with a strange virus of unknown origin. The hepatitis B experiments began in Manhattan in the fall of 1978; the first few cases of AIDS (all young gays from Manhattan) were reported to the CDC in 1979. Scientists have also failed to explain how a brand new herpes virus was also introduced exclusively into gays, along with HIV, in the late 1970s. This herpes virus is now believed to be the cause of Kaposi's sarcoma, the so-called "gay cancer" of AIDS. Before AIDS, Kaposi's sarcoma was never seen in healthy young men. Identified a decade after HIV, in 1994, this KS virus is closely related to a primate cancer-causing herpes virus extensively studied and transferred in animal laboratories in the decade before AIDS. Also downplayed to the public is a new microbe (Mycoplasma penetrans), also of unknown origin, that was introduced into homosexuals, along with HIV and the new herpes virus. Thus, not one but three new infectious agents were inexplicably transferred into the gay population at the start of the epidemic (HIV, the herpes KS virus, and M.penetrans)."--Alan Cantwell MD 2001
"There is no question that HIV was introduced into the U.S. male homosexual population via the gay hepatitis B vaccine experiment that took place between 1978 and 1981. My research clearly supports the outbreak of AIDS cases in Los Angeles and San Francisco shortly after the experiment began in those cities. Not surprisingly, the government has refused to release data on the number of AIDS deaths that have occurred in the large group of gay men who initially volunteered for the vaccine experiment." ---Dr Alan Cantwell
Alan Cantwell MD