Originally posted by AccessDenied

GO Jimmie!!!!

Johnson? Still football related.

YUMMMMMMM, This old MAMA might just have to start up the Flintstone mobile and tip toe to Geno's for the Philly cheesesteak with the WHEEZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Great job, congratulations, and I hope your plan brings the issues and "men behind the curtain" to a wider audience. My only "beef" with the whole lead-up and promotion of the event was your use of the word Revolution. (even the word "beef" is probably too strong for how I feel about it.)

My husband and I recognized from watching the teaser videos that the whole thing was just going to be some giant ATS commercial. Which is great, more people SHOULD know about a site where a lot of people talk about things that you could get institutionalized for in the real world.

I'm sure a lot of people on the site, like the majority of people I try to advertise to in my job, saw the avatars of some of the mods, and watched a few seconds of a teaser here and there and thought to themselves: "SWEET! Someone is actually going to plan something concrete to strike back at the man!"

Westerners are so over-loaded with advertising and information you literally have to punch them in the face with your message otherwise they just don't get it. However, it's not your fault that some people didn't take the time to really investigate what you were doing.

Yet, as far as our "beef" goes with your use of the word revolution: in our opinion the people on this rock we call earth are really, really suffering right now and I don't know if there has ever been a time where a real revolution was more sorely needed. The way corporations are throwing the word around in their advertising seriously cheapens it.

Stephen Colbert implied during "The Word" in the episode after that student was tasered at a John Kerry speech that Americans have no stomach for confrontation and he's totally correct. If the things that were happening now were happening during the time of our founding fathers you can be sure there would be mobs in the street with pitch forks & torches rooting out the corruption.

Now, when something upsets us we run to the Internet and blog about it or post notes on a message board. Sharing ideas & talking about things is good...but it is NOT a revolution.

Originally posted by mikesingh
That was a good presentation. But it could have been better if there was some commentary or music in the background. Or is my sound card Kaput?

We were playing specially selected music before and after the presentation however the amount of chatter going on during the reception possibly drowned out the ability for the webcast to pick it up.

All music was paused during the presentation itself.

Originally posted by Malynn
Now, when something upsets us we run to the Internet and blog about it or post notes on a message board. Sharing ideas & talking about things is good...but it is NOT a revolution.

Malynn, I don't think you've understood the User-Generated Content Ecosystem model, which is a revolutionary means allowing users to define and shape their own media.

ATS is not a small website with a message board bolted on to the side allowing a few random users to post one-liners now and again on a news story they found disturbing, we are the LARGEST collaborative community of our kind with minds from every corner of the globe. We have a huge sphere of influence, and the November 5th event has enabled us to present our already proven concept model the mainstream media.

Imagine that person coming to ATS, posting an informed and researched opinion on such a news item and then having the sphere of influence to enable their own personal contribution to BECOME THE NEWS STORY through a television or radio ATS outlet.

Online content generation is the way of the future, people are beginning to realise this, and ATS is a frontrunner.

[edit on 8-11-2007 by SimonGray]

Simon i dont have anything against you guys but i was expecting a lot more than what i saw, also you should have got some rest is all i'm saying.

and it was more of an awaykening thing because as you said you were bringing this content to pleople who have not heard of it. thats called opening eyes and minds a revolution brings about change so i dont belive this was the case thus far.

Somwhere I read or heard that you three amigos had never met in person before...hard for me to imagine though. Is that true?

I've just watched the stream from the event - the one that is kind of an overview of ATS - and I just wanted to say that I loved the final section, which summed up the whole sphere diagram.

The diagram did make sense on it's own, but the way it was demonstrated using new members, ATS MIX, radio, and eventually research for publication, in a continuous loop - evolving - really hit the nail on the head and, in my view, set out the future of online communities.

It's not simply a case of posting on a message board anymore. The media is becoming more and more fluid, and ATS, by having the vision to see this and act early upon it, are really leading the way for the future.

This community is really going places, and I just wish I had more time to devote to it.

Good work folks...

And to all those who think 'the revolution' was an excuse for a party. So what? Doesn't everyone deserve a good time once in a while? If it's promoting something we all love and want to see expand, develop and trailblaze - all the better.

Peace,
MSP.

[edit on 8-11-2007 by more_serotonin_pls]

From what I gathered from the presentation that SO gave, the word "revolution" represented all the other aspects of ATS "revolving" around the user content and that the combination of everything is what makes ATS what it is.

I think that shows that the three Amigos understand that all the bells and whistles that come along with ATS mean nothing without our contributions and that is great insight.

At least that is what the diagram looked like.

Question for Springer.

Is Richard Belzer the actor you talked about in the old ATS TV thread where we were trying to guess who it was? I can't seem to find it. I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about.

There's an 'I' in exploitation ya know, it may sound rhetorical, but at the risk of sounding facetious, what's in this revolution for us? If I'm bringing the eggs, I'm gonna want a piece of cake. When do I get my press kit?

One concern I have for you guys is the inevitable loss of control. An example I ran into a few years ago...
We were in pre-production on a film a couple years ago, and the producer met with us wanting to share some concerns about something in the script. Having written the script, I was a little defensive obviously, but we weren't in a position to dismiss his concerns and a change was made that we felt was for the worse. It came down to 'No Changes, No Checks'. Another difference of opinion came up and the script and all the pre-production work we put into it now sits collecting dust years later.
To make a long story short, when you expand and begin to take on outside interests and become dependent on those sources, it will inevitably have an impact on your material. It's completely unavoidable. In the entertainment/media industry particularly, those changes could be ruinous to a conspiracy related web site.