Here is the rest from my previous post.....

The answers of Bill Crip the interview via telephone with the general manager of Air Rutter International was obtained after three calls and it became in English, whose translation is the following one:

The answers of Bill Crip the interview via telephone with the general manager of Air Rutter International was obtained after three calls and it became in English, whose translation is the following one:
we call you from the newspaper Por Esto ! and we have some questions that….
Bill Crip interrupts and says to us: - we do not have anything to do with the airplane Grumman Gulfstream II N987SA that fell yesterday. We sold day 30 of August of 2007.
- To whom, Mr. Crip?
-( him ) I cannot provide that information.
- Yesterday, in the page of Internet of Air Rutter International still they offered in rent that apparatus. Why they did it if no longer were of its property, it was made him notice.
- That was an error of the person in charge of the page and only yesterday it was corrected.
- Too much coincidence, don’t you think so Mr. Crip ?
- I do not have commentaries on that.
- the company that you represent it’s private or belongs from some form to the government of the United States? I inform to him that I am recording our conversation.
- I cannot respond that question and why it records to me?
- It is a work routine; if it wants I do not record to him, but answer me: that company is property of the government of the United States ?
- I cannot answer that.
- Why when calling to their office in Farmingdale, New York answers in California?
- I cannot answer that.
- Know you it company Donna Blue Inc. Aircraft?
- That company is involved in the operation of sale of the airplane, but I cannot give more data him and in this office nobody will speak more with you.
- Why, Mr. Crip, what do you fear ?
- ( him ) I cannot comment out more. And immediately the call was cut that we had done to the telephone number of Mr. Crip: 001 (562) 425 88 80. Later we tried to make contact with the enemy with the offices of the company Donna Blue Inc. Aircraft, in Florida, whose telephone is 001 (954) 422 54 50, but it responded a answer machine to us that requests to leave message. On the other hand, the telephone (415) 555 55 55 that the company slogan in their page of Internet and that the Parks correspond to their offices in Mer it, California, simply does not exist. Finally we will indicate that as much the pages of Air Rutter International like the one of Donna Blue Inc. Aircraft, were in target from yesterday, soon of the collapse of the narcotics detective-Grumman in the proximity of the municipal head of Tikokob.

just testing..

[edit on 10-10-2007 by spacedoubt]

Interesting story about the Gulfstream II jet filled with 3.7 tons of cocaine that crashed in the Yucatan a couple of weeks ago.

How does a plane only able to carry a Max payload: 5,456 lb (2,480 kg) carry a payload of 3.7 tonnes????

Also would the US government be that dumb to use such an obvious plane for drug running.

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How does a plane only able to carry a Max payload: 5,456 lb (2,480 kg) carry a payload of 3.7 tonnes????

Also would the US government be that dumb to use such an obvious plane for drug running.


That could be why it crashed. it was overloaded. Wouldn't be the first time. As for would the government be that dumb...Uh yes.

Originally posted by bergle
This airplane is the biggest smoking gun that weve had handd to us(by us, i mean yer basic people)
The trace gets back to the CIA and the implications are bigger than a hundred dirty bombs delivered by terrorists....

It's possible that this does lead back to the CIA, and that's fine, but currently the only bit of evidence indicating the CIA may have had a role is an old list of rendition aircraft on a German website. That may either be inaccurate, or, equally as likely, N987SA was used for a rendition flight, once, and was chartered from its legitimate owner that one time. It's very possible to have been both used by the CIA and drug smugglers and for neither of them to be connected.

In my experience, finding evidence linking illicit activity to the CIA is very difficult, and it's very rare to come across anything legitimately indicating even a remote connection. That's not at all a suggestion to stop looking for things, and I think this should be investigated as much as possible. I'm glad this crash is getting the news coverage it should, since coverage of N900SA, the DC9 in Mexico last year with 5.5 tons of cocaine, died out after only several days.

[edit on 11-10-2007 by LoganCale]

you know, i wonder what john lear thinks of this cia plane thing...he used to fly for the cia and might have some insight on this.
someone light up the bat er john signal!

Great, our government is sellin' dope.What else is new.

Originally posted by deltaboy

Probably because the Taliban got their butts kicked and need a source of funds to keep their Jihad against American coalition in Afghanistan. Where the Taliban going to get their funds from? Afghan taxpayers?

I don't post much anymore, but are you kidding me? You know what the taliban did to people that grew that stuff? If I recall, they kill them and burned everything down. The taliban were very strict against that stuff, yet after they are thrown out of power it is them that is growing the stuff? do you have ANY sources to support such a wild claim? The taliban are all but a memory, yet they are the ones producing opium in record amounts?

What it seems like is 1 of 2 things. The poor afgan population is growing it to make income or the US is backing it, though I would prefer the former.

Very suspicious indeed. After looking at the Donna Blue Aircraft web page, I can only assume that they think we are all stupid. Well ,they probably do think that. A very sad and lackluster attempt.

Originally posted by Sadet
Very suspicious indeed. After looking at the Donna Blue Aircraft web page, I can only assume that they think we are all stupid. Well ,they probably do think that. A very sad and lackluster attempt.

The Donna Blue Aircraft website is hosted on homestead.com, which allows people to use stock templates to create their websites. Clearly they've added a template and partially filled it in, and then never completed it. The testimonial is obviously a stock thing that came with the template (it's in proper English, for one thing, unlike the rest of the site) as well as the contact information, which is a false phone number and Homestead's address. Probably created the site and forgot about it, or, upon hearing the plane crashed, quickly created it. They would be just as likely to do this if they were drug smugglers unrelated to the U.S. government, and it seems far more likely that a CIA operation would have set up the cover in advance.

Well ya know after so many career intel were forced out of the CIA for daring to tell the truth to power about Iraq and all, I am quite sure that they are running somewhat behind of the professional spook stuff these days. it could very well be a CIA op and a very sloppy one at that.