Keith Olberman: Bush 'Lying about Iraq'

Originally posted by Dr Love
Bush is no better or worse than the next bozo that takes over, that's what people need to get through their thick skulls.

With all due respect, I consider him the worst leader in US History, and that will stick for many presidents to come.
That mightnt mean much being im on the other side of the world, but its blatantly obvious he's not just 'stupid, and making mistakes' but activley lying, and manipulating situations.

I wouldnt call him a bozo in his actions, id call them criminal.

And on another point, anyone... regardless of there mental apptitude will be better than president bush, they may be as stupid as him, but surely not as controlled by corporate figureheads.

Well said Mr Olberman since you do speak the truth. It is pretty obvious that the number of troops in Iraq (and the Middle East) will continue to be high so long as the PNAC "Rebuilding America's Defenses" document remains on course.

Besides, massive permanent bases in the Middle East don't run themselves do they now?

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
An intense, chastising and hyper critical review of recent news and events regarding President Bush and the Iraq war.
The video speaks for itself, and warrants a post in this forum for discussion.

I have watch and listen to this and this is my opinion about this whole issue.

At last a men who tell the truth and nothing but the truth, and I have a deep respect for him.
He throws it fully in the open and take by doing that a very great risk, because the reality is that people who tell the truth about such matters/issues will put themselves in great danger.
He confront by doing this those extremely powerful groups of people who really are behind and fully responsible for all those terrible and inhumanly wars.
The reason of those groups as they say, and go to war, was, to fight against terrorism and therefore make this world and especially the US a safer place to live in.
And see what it has become.
The world and especially the US of today, as I see it, is in much greater danger then it was ever before.
But the real hidden reasons of those extremely powerful groups, are there never ending greed for more money and never ending hunger for more power, nothing more.
And they manipulated therefore, many in their eyes “necessary” things, to set their goals, and get at the end the green light and therefore start those fxxking wars,
So in reality, the American people faces as I see it, an enemy at the inside as well an enemy at the outside.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
our goals are to not have the country totally collapse once we leave.

You don’t have to be a military specialist to see that whenever the US and his allies pullout, leave Irak behind in the absolute terrible mess as it is today, it will collapse.

And what happens then?

Where is the russian mafia when you need them? I'm sure there is at least ONE rich person in the U.S that would pay lots of money to have Bush...Silenced for eternity.

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
One line from Olberman's rant that stood out to me and may be seen as over the top by some is this:
"this president has ceased to listen, this President has decided that night is day and death is life and enraging the world against us is safety"

Oh, Gazz but he Should have said, that the president is not longer listening to the people in America.

But he is listening, is just that the people he is serving and doing the job for is not the American voters.

He is doing what the corporate profiteers wants.

Originally posted by marg6043
But he is listening, is just that the people he is serving and doing the job for is not the American voters.

You gotta love ATS.

It would be easy to excuse Bush's actions as all being the result of him being a puppet. I suppose many people actually believe Bush is a dumb brainless puppet, that is dangerous thinking, do not underestimate this man's intelligence, or his abilities to think on his own, or take actions, give orders, sign executive orders.. etc.

[edit on 6-9-2007 by UM_Gazz]

i have already seen this yesterday on oyme and i can tell you that i was really impressed by olbermann's report. everything he said about bush & iraq was simply the truth. i have to admit that i would not have expected such enormous criticism on televison (especially not on msnbc) but fortunately there are still some people out who can say what they want to say even though it may be confronting the bush administration and their main 'agenda'...

[edit on 6-9-2007 by EBE154]

Olberman is to be applauded for having the cajones to stand up and say what needs to be said to our 'decider'. The endless list of atrocities and shreddings of the constitution under this megalomaniacal thug is beyond nauseating. How he and Dick Insaney have not been impeached or tossed behind bars at this point is incredible. Then again, when you stack the entire justice system with your cronies, I guess you can just keep pissing all over the law. The corruption, lies, and destruction never end with these guys.

Politics and war?

An interesting REPUBLICAN point of view on the war...



[edit on 6-9-2007 by UM_Gazz]

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
Amazing,

"Amazing" right back atchya. :shk:

and I'll bet you if I had posted a similar rant from Rush Limbaugh

... and you'd have lost that bet.

Why can't anyone on either side simply put aside partisan views, ..

Again .. right back atchya.

Olberman is just looking for ratings and fame. He wouldn't go gangbusters all over Hillary or Obama like he did.

YOU need to put aside the partisan views and see what Olberman really is.
- Just another news reader looking for fame and ratings via spouting partisan agendasized crap.

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Please see my post above yours.

Originally posted by UM_Gazz
Please see my post above yours.

I watched the whole thing.
I like Ron Paul and hope to be able to vote for him.
But what does that have to do with Olberman CONTINUALLY pumping out anything and everything ONE SIDED and agendisized ... all to gain fame and ratings?

Ron Paul =
Keith Olberman =

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Holy cr**! Man-Dr. Paul just sliced and diced the Bush admin to shreds. I can't believe he even brought up ID chips and secret prisons being built. I am praying for this man to be elected for the sake of our futures. He could literally be the prayer we have been waiting for.

BTW-Who was the moron who kept laughing in the background at Paul and the commentator? Was that Guiliani?

[edit on 6-9-2007 by DimensionalDetective]

Do you notice how Ron Paul appeals to common sense and all these other candidates appeal to emotion......"we're one nation"? We're not one freakin' nation, we're split right down the middle! If you idiots want us to be one nation then let's get rid of the two party system.

I love how Giuliani is chuckling in the background! What a sorry sack of a politician, ZERO class.

Peace

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I just hope that if Ron Paul does become President that the American people will not think that the problem with our country has been fixed, and that the mess created by the neocons has been cleaned up. Ron Paul would need the support of the American people throughout his entire term. In office he would in fact need more support than the amount of support needed to get him there.. Every branch of the US government has been corrupted by the influence of the neocons. The neocons themselves and their policies are deeply embedded throughout every office and it will take no less than the full support of the American people, each and every citizen throughout each and every sector of our society, to undo the damage. We would have to support Ron Paul's diligence with our vigilance.

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I tell you man, those who challenged Ron Paul only issued rhetoric. Ron Paul issues truth, real solutions, and real concern for the welfare of all Americans. And the only thing the other candidates could muster was middle school grade rhetoric.

And as for Giuliani -- what a travesty! You'd think he was sitting in the back of the class clowning around with all of the other delinquent fifth graders.

I love KO. I was watching this when it aired live and I was mad that I didn't record it. Thanks for posting it.

I feel it is about time that someone from a major news agency voiced their opinion about this president. C'mon, FOX has been the king of the smear campaign against any and all democrats. This has been way overdue, Bush sucks and KO had the balls to say so on national tv.
Does anyone here know KO personally and can back up their claims that this is just for ratings? Why don't you listen to what he says instead of just viewing it as a publicity stunt.

I also enjoyed the Ron Paul clip. That guy needs to get elected but I really don't see him making it. There are too many people out there that would rather vote for someone who wins their hearts and minds with fear and patriotic BS than someone who would really fix things. And Guliani is an idiot.

Sorry to say this but Ron Paul will not be elected by the elite that runs this nation to be a president, he is not what they want, the fate of our nation lies on the hand of a few and they already has come this far thanks to Bush to let anything else stop them.

Only the people in this nation can stop them.

[edit on 6-9-2007 by marg6043]

If we really wanted to stabilize Iraq it would have been done by now. The fact of the matter is that it is merely a foothold in time to capitalize on the ptb's larger goal of taking down Iran. That has always been the true goal and aim. Recent events seem to back this theory.

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What's a pity is that Ron Paul is basically saying that he's willing to give his life for the country that he loves again, and many folks haven't even the slightest idea that he is pledging to do so. It seems he's said that he would get rid of the IRS and the Federal Reserve! Now American's who have even the briefest of knowledge about what those two agencies represent know that Ron Paul is saying that he is willing put his life on the line for us. And all Giuliani can do is laugh from his seat of fear; chomping at the bit to get the chance to show just how tiny and afraid he really is.

The reason that the message of fear sells so well is because it is mostly frightful and fearful people who are running for office. Those folks know very well how to sell their malaise to a public that's afflicted with the same disease. American's are scary because they would rather hide their heads beneath their pillows than go outside and face the world. They would do that and elect officials who have promised to do the work for them but who turn around and do the same exact thing! War is all about people refusing to face other people. That's why we have firearms, body armor, tanks, aircraft carriers, missles, and whatever else deadly contraption that we can think of. It is nearly impossible to imagine how much fear is present when one considers an ICBM or any nuclear weapon. But you know a great deal of fear must be present within those that would use such a thing against other humans. The US has used nuclear weapons twice! On the same country! During the same war! Both bombs dropped within three days of one another! Little Boy: 13-16 kilotons. Fat Man: 21-23 kilotons. Now that's fear folks.

Last week, August 30, 2007, the US Air Force temporarily lost track of five nuclear warheads mounted on to cruise missiles. Each warhead with a yield of 5-150 kilotons. Now that's unimaginable fear folks. Fear quite neatly contained within the folks who would even threaten to use such things against other persons.

It's good that somebody like Ron Paul are speaking out like a real civilized person and not like some wretched mole trapped in the corner of a curtained steel cage. No doubt Ron Paul is only human like the rest of us. However it seems that he possesses a great deal less fear than the rest of those bozos that he's running against. If there's a right amount of fear it seems that he's possesses that amount. The amount that's necessary for all humans to possess if we are all to survive and prosper. Yeah, it sounds like a sales pitch, but the real pitch is to those who are willingly allowing themselves to be pressed ever further and deeper into a corner by other folks who are in the same position. Ron Paul doesn't seem to be that kind of person. Because he's taken the stand and Olberman has taken the stand, perhaps there are more like them who would join them. I think that's what they are hoping for and counting on.

Ron Paul and Keith Olberman want Americans to lead themselves instead of being led and lied to. And Ron Paul wants to be a figurehead. He wants to be the one to represent the American people, not special interests and the cabals controlling the IRS and the Federal Reserve, he wants to represent citizens who lead and are responsible for themselves, and thus their country.

And so maybe he won't make it. He should make it. Or someone like him should make it. Anything less would be unforgivable. An offense that all Americans, and perhaps much of the world, would have to pay for.