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Keith Olberman: Bush 'Lying about Iraq'

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posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Olberman ...


The guy is a radical left wing nut. He found a niche and is milking it for ratings and for fame. He disgusts me. (not that he cares .. he's laughing all the way to the bank :shk: )


O.k......Is he any worse than Rush???? Olberman ratings are smoking right now and the likes of the diddo heads are pissed because now Olberman has the guns and is blazing away I think this was GREAT! and most who blindly follow this administartion would hate the throat punch Olberman delivered here. The best thing on top of this is Olberman and Dan Patrick will have a show together again very soon and it will be directed right at Rush and the idiot's that follow him. I love how the conservatives get ants in thier pants when the left brings out the guns and gives them a healthy dose of the same crap the right wing talk radio does on a daily basis!
OLBERMAN FOR PRESIDENT 08'




posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 08:46 PM
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This is my first post here. First things first, I vote Libertarian. I think that the war in Iraq was a necessity and that at this very moment Iraq is changing for the better.
I also do not believe that "Bush lied". I find it funny that people continually pretend that Iraq was some sort of victim in this situation. Clinton made it national policy to change the government in Iraq and for good reason. The fact that Saddam Hussein is gone and the fact that our troops have killed thousands of people dedicated to destroying this nation and my way of life makes me happy.

Of course I am sure that to people that disagree with me they will say the same things they always say with some amount of condescending air about them. I don't care. I know what these people want (our REAL enemies) and I want them dead because of it. There are just some things about life that are terribly unpleasant.
My view of this is in thinking about a brighter future. We (meaning human civilization) cannot move forward if groups that are fascist are allowed to continue to maim and kill and chain the human spirit in the way they'd like.

Maybe most people can go on thinking this stuff is imaginary and if they are indeed a majority (which I think they aren't - I think most people understand the situation here) then we will indeed see the fruits of our ignorance of the matter in about 2 generations or less.

I wouldn't be worrying about 2012 if I were you folk, I'd be worrying about whether or not you are willing to convert to Islam.



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:17 PM
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Posts like this frighten me. That there are STILL people believing in this administrations fairy tale, believing that Iraq had ANYTHING to do with 911, had WMD's, and deserved to be invaded and decimated into fragments based on the piles of stinking bulls*** this administration fed to every one is incomprehensible. WE INVADED IRAQ BASED ON NOTHING BUT LIES-NO WMD's, NO AL-QUAEDA LINKS, NADA.

WE are the ones trying to ram OUR way of doing things down these people's throats. Conformity by mass death. That's sure to work. lol



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 09:40 PM
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Wow you are right! I am convinced!

Thanks for setting me straight.

No WMD eh? Well, whether you remember or not the decision to invade Iraq was not made entirely on the basis that there were or were not WMD's.

I suggest you re-read the speech GW made to the UN on the matter of invading Iraq prior to the invasion:

Speech to the UN

I also would like to submit the FACT that Joe Wilson has been caught in many lies in regards to his trip to Nigeria. I think if you google Christopher Hitchens and Joe Wilson you will find that Hitchens has made a very detailed case that Joe was and is a liar.

The selective memory that some people have in the history leading up that war is astounding. The emotional mission people are own to thwart their own culture and way of living is astounding to me.

I am assuming of course that if the worse case scenario does happen and an entire downtown of a major city is nuked by an Islamic nut job then you will also think that your government is responsible for that as well?

How much time have you spent studying radical Islam? How long have you studied the nuts and bolts of terrorism from all sides? Why don't you think that they are capable of killing the number of people that they kill? Especially when they even make public pronouncements and admit that the deeds were their own?
What more do you need? Do you need them to kill you personally before you catch on? Sadly, I think many out there are still in a dupe about the situation due to 60 odd years of socialist propaganda placing the blame for everything under the sun on the United States. It's a shame that people are still blinded by that - especially when they usually live quite well by the system they propose they despise.
Biting the hand that feeds you is our most somber motto these days.
Still, everyone is allowed to have their opinion, even if it is completely and absolutely wrong.



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 10:42 PM
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You know what ... I may just try to write him about that ... but not just Ron Paul, I will use the Dems. Dennis Kucinich too. How the REAL americans are being side-stepped for the paid for politicians.

Great idea ... I would hope for him to do a number about it ... maybe if enough people write him. I'll do my part



posted on Sep, 6 2007 @ 11:03 PM
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How is it a "non fact" when it is a quote from the book? He is using our soldiers as a political tool and openly admitting it.


Hi shooterbrody.

I'm saying that there are no numbers.
That saying an increase in the short-run, can lead to a more minimal presence, in the long run.
Olberman, was interpreting that statement for his own Agenda.
I'm not apologizing for Bush's mishandling of the war. That's still pretty obvious.
But I am saying that Olberman's Rant was based on his own opinion of that statement from the book.

How many troops equal a presence?
1?, 1 million? Thats all I'm saying.



posted on Sep, 7 2007 @ 01:09 AM
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The American people were lied to to get into Iraq, many rights were taken from us and now the majority wants out of Iraq and many want impeachment for obvious war crimes that we would hold OTHER countries accountable for but expect ourselves to get a pass... Is there anything that could be done to enrage the American people? Torture.. oops nope not that... uh.. na nothing. We are too busy watching The Simpsons... Ohh I wonder if they are on.

If democracy is decided by the majority, we arent a democracy anymore.. we damn sure arent a republic.. what are we? Free?
Thats cute that I would say that.



posted on Sep, 8 2007 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by xpert11
I watched Olberman rant and at best its a logical fallacy and at worst its false reporting.


Which is something not unheard of in the popular media.



Of course Bush is going to want Republican candidates to support the continuation so they can all go down on the same sinking ship . Yes there is the real possibility of troop levels returning to pre surge levels so Bush is hardly lying when he says this .


Unless his very good he is occasionally going to tell the truth by accident....


This is just another of the media shocking coverage of the Iraq civil war.


Like not keeping in circulation the fact that about a million Iraqi's have probably died due to the American invasion?


If were not hearing that Bin Ladin cronies are responseible for every attack then its idiots like Olberman ranting on about how 2+2 =5.


As far as we know OBL has no 'cronies' in Iraq....


You should know by now that people either follow there emperor blindly or demand that US troops be withdrawn immediately that aren't going to change.


Most are actually just horribly confused by the mess and do not know what to believe or for that matter what to do. This is a situation the media does it's best to orchestrate so that it's corporate backers can eventually tell the American people exactly what to believe and what do about it...

Stellar



posted on Sep, 9 2007 @ 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by berbalang
Wow you are right! I am convinced!

Thanks for setting me straight.

No WMD eh? Well, whether you remember or not the decision to invade Iraq was not made entirely on the basis that there were or were not WMD's.


But that's what they used to sell it to the American public.


I suggest you re-read the speech GW made to the UN on the matter of invading Iraq prior to the invasion:

Speech to the UN


I would much rather tear my hair out one by one than do that to myself at this time of the day. I do not think i can stand to hear that many lies in so little space so soon after the first time...

I

also would like to submit the FACT that Joe Wilson has been caught in many lies in regards to his trip to Nigeria. I think if you google Christopher Hitchens and Joe Wilson you will find that Hitchens has made a very detailed case that Joe was and is a liar.


So that must be why the compromise the identity of his wife in spite? How did the grad student uncover this Nigeria 'conspiracy' in the first place?


The selective memory that some people have in the history leading up that war is astounding.


I agree...


The emotional mission people are own to thwart their own culture and way of living is astounding to me.


I totally agree! It just makes so much sense to support the illegal invasion of another country for the corporate profit and murder that will ultimately result in reprisals against American citizens who were not stupid and criminal enough to involve themselves in this illegal war of aggression by joining the US armed forces and going to overseas to kill innocent people until getting blown up themselves.


I am assuming of course that if the worse case scenario does happen and an entire downtown of a major city is nuked by an Islamic nut job then you will also think that your government is responsible for that as well?


Sure as we know they keep funding these nut job wacko's that do occasionally actually attack a night club or something.


How much time have you spent studying radical Islam?


Not nearly as much time as i have spent studying the fundamentalist 'Christians' ( it's not like the radical Islamist are closed to their accepted truth than the fundamentalist Christians) and the like who actually fought the world wars...


How long have you studied the nuts and bolts of terrorism from all sides? Why don't you think that they are capable of killing the number of people that they kill?


Long enough to know that the majority of the terrorism you refer to are in fact state sponsored and then mostly by western states.


Especially when they even make public pronouncements and admit that the deeds were their own?


If i keep threatening to blow up stuff but can't make good on my threats i am going to jump all over the change to take credit for something i want to do but never would or could do myself.


What more do you need? Do you need them to kill you personally before you catch on?


I need a actual honest to go threat to exist before i start acting on it. Iran is no threat to anyone and most certainly not those who are not threatening to invade.


Sadly, I think many out there are still in a dupe about the situation due to 60 odd years of socialist propaganda placing the blame for everything under the sun on the United States.


Well the 'socialist' had it right since the US national security state was in fact the primary sponsor of terror and destruction against the worlds citizens.


It's a shame that people are still blinded by that - especially when they usually live quite well by the system they propose they despise.


It's a shame that the American education system ( list most of the rest) can not educate Americans about REAL history. American workers work on average the longest hours in the industrialized western world ( including as far as i know Korea, Taiwan, Japan) for the least amount of reward so the system is quite broken even if this is not readily obvious to most in the west.


Biting the hand that feeds you is our most somber motto these days.


The American national security states aim was never to feed anyone they could avoid feeding and few of their actions resulted in positive gains for the American public and rarely for anyone else either.


Still, everyone is allowed to have their opinion, even if it is completely and absolutely wrong.


Ditto.

Stellar



posted on Sep, 9 2007 @ 09:39 AM
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I commend Olbermann for stating what needs to be said.

As for those offended or who disagree I really have no comment, as I believe that those people that have manifested the "pro-war/bush/neocon" mind-state are, unfortunately, essentially, LOST...

At any rate...

Kudos to Olbermann...

IT'S ABOUT TIME!

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posted on Sep, 14 2007 @ 09:45 PM
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This thread brings to mind this stunning song
by UK singer/songwriter Ian Brown (ex-Stone Roses)
Lyrically, it sums up my feelings on Iraq and the current state of play.
I felt it was apt to post it here.

Seeing as I cannot get mt head around how to use the youtube embedding link please youtube illegal attacks for the video.

Ian Brown Feat. Sinead O’Connor -

''Illegal attacks''

So what the f@#k is this UK
Gunnin with this US of A
In Iraq and Iran and in Afghanistan

Does not a day go by
Without the Israeli Air Force
Fail to drop it’s bombs from the sky?

How many mothers to cry?
How many sons have to die?
How many missions left to fly over Palestine?
Coz as a matter of facts
It’s a fact, it’s an act
These are illegal attacks
So bring the soldiers back
These are illegal attacks
It’s contracts for contacts
I’m singing concrete facts
So bring the soldiers back!!!!

What mean ya that you beat my people (2x)
And grind the faces of the poor

So tell me just how come were the Taliban
Sat burning incense in Texas
Roaming round in a Lexus
Sitting on six billion oil drums
Down with the Dow Jones, up on the Nasdaq
Pushed into the war zones

It’s a commercial crusade
‘Coz all the oil men get paid
And only so many soldiers come home
It’s a commando crusade
A military charade
And only so many soldiers come home

Soldiers, soldiers come home
Soldiers come home

Through all the blood and sweat
Nobody can forget
It ain’t the size of the dog in the fight
It’s the size of the fight in the dog on the day or the night
There’s no time to reflect
On the threat, the situation, the bark nor the bite
These are commercial crusades
Coz all the oil men get paid
These are commando crusades
Commando tactical rape
And from the streets of New York and Baghdad to Tehran and Tel Aviv
Bring forth the prophets of the Lord
From dirty bastards filling pockets
With the profits of greed

These are commercial crusades
Commando tactical raids
Playing military charades to get paid

And who got the devils?
And who got the Lords?
Build yourself a mountain, drink up in the fountain

Soldiers come home (4x)

What mean ya that you beat my people (2x)
And grind the faces of the poor

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