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Greys, Archons, and Chupacabres Oh My!

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posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8
It's very hard to remember your dreams in details enough to expose this fact.


I have to say I quite frequently remember my dreams. The colors and even the smells. I remember some in great detail. I frequently have dreams that I get startled out of my dream state. I've had dreams that for all tense and purposes have come true to one degree or another. Sometime I have the same dreams. I'd have to say I remember a very good bit of my dreams every morning when I wake up. I'd like to believe what you say is true, but I still don't see the connection yet. Right now, to me, dreams are just some type of memories and experiences that play out in your mind one way or another. I also have lucid dreams fairly often. I just can't make them happen when I want. Those are extremely cool dreams.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8
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The last 2 minutes of this video is the exact same thing I've talked about in a couple of threads I've started here.

Here's one thread about it. Of course, Lost and Hero's isn't about aliens, but TV helping dicloser is a big possibility.

And here is another thread about TV helping discloser by another ATS member.

Either way, a very good video I haven't seen before.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 05:51 PM
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Dear Disenfrancheesed;

This is what you said

"This guy reminds me of one of those 30 year old suave hippie type that hang around high school kids cause no one else eats their bs up. Talking in cryptic poetic speak. Trying to be so cool and hip to impress the young ladies. And if you claim to be a US Navy SEAl when were you pinned and what unit and years? My father was U.S. Marine Corp. Force Recon and I grew up around a lot of special forces types. And you don't seem to be of the ilk. And one more quick thing. This site certainly sounds a lot like you allpoetry.com... But this all just smells of baboon feces imho."


That's fair. You remind me of the president.
I never hung out with marines. See, in the SEALS we rather used marines in Coronado
(on the other side of the fence) as verbal target practice. Simply, because as SEALS
we actually had to score above an 85 on the ASVAB to qualify. Not just a 30 to get in.

I was an Intelligence Specialist after being a hull tech for awhile (underwater welding)
and my experience with UFO's lies in deep water salvage ops. For you mere sons of jarheads that have never yourself been in the military, but like to pretend that just because you've brushed shoulders with the type, you know the type. It means pulling # out of lakes, rivers, and oceans of HIGH military interest that are DEEP down, savy genius?

I am no hippie, I am a writer, a scientist, a father, and a highly trained killer.
These days I opt for the first three. I'm not here for chicks, thanks, but I'm married.
And yes, I am indeed a poet, and much cuter than you, and brighter, don't be a hater,
"Love is the only law, love under will".

[edit on 11-8-2007 by Horus8]



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Cyber_Wasp
Hey Horus8 !!!

I am seeing a lot of information lately about the reptiles controlling us and about other advanced humans on other worlds.
What I want to know is why haven't the other humans got our backs? Why do they leave us to flounder with their enemy? If they are really advanced beings then they would put a stop to this and teach us the right ways.


Dear Cyber_Wasp;

They are helping us, but we need to help ourselves. It's like drug addicts; you can do everything for them, and they'll still relapse. They need to want to change themselves first, and we're the drug addicts, and the higher races of humans are our concerned parents. As for why they can't stop the reptiles? Well, America can't stop Iran, or the insurgents of Iraq, or China from becoming a monster, or other terrorist groups, and we are the supposed "BEST" military might in the world (because of our selling out the human race to aliens to further our technology [which only the rich owners of these technologies benefit from]). The USA! Yay! Not. It's not that easy. The other human races have advanced to more peaceful levels at higher densities. They are no longer the birds in the mouth of the crocodiles cleaning, they are condors high in the jet stream preening. We are the birds in the crocodiles mouth cleaning. We need to let the crocodile clean it's own teeth. The reptilians were built for war, and in the astral plane are indeed the devils ruling hell, and torchering and burning you for eternity. It must end. Even the most advanced human races are wary of the reptilians. they are nasty mofo's

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posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by GreenRobot
Horus8,
Thanks for sharing your experiences. For many, your words seem way too extreme from their reality. I, on the other hand, feel that our current reality is a diversion that keeps us controlled and in the dark about many things. How much of what you say is proveable is not the point. The "prove it to me crowd" say they want the truth, but they probably wouldn't believe it if they had proof. That's the strange connundrum that many thirst for real knowledge, but would probably disregard it when it's delivered to them on a platter.

People like you and Sleeper have attempted to give us a peek behind the curtain. The extreme possibilities that may be out there scare the crap out of most. They will refuse to believe no manner how well intentioned the information.

Please tell us how your wound up in a military prison? Was it related to your fantastic experiences?



How I wound up in military prison? Isn't it strange how "wound" as in hurt, and "wound"
as in having traversed a screwed up path are totally different yet exactly the same word and meaning?

I wanted out of the Navy, that's how I ended up in prison. I did what I had to
do to get out. Otherwise, my programing would have turned me into one of these
Sociopathic CIA arsehats out playing the Bourne identity for real on a chess board I care to not describe.

As a child I loved music and theater, animals and children, playing, the stars.
I wanted to get back to that world. I wanted to fall in love and have kids, and
help the world. Not police it.

[edit on 11-8-2007 by Horus8]



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Quazi176

Originally posted by Horus8
It's very hard to remember your dreams in details enough to expose this fact.


I have to say I quite frequently remember my dreams. The colors and even the smells. I remember some in great detail. I frequently have dreams that I get startled out of my dream state. I've had dreams that for all tense and purposes have come true to one degree or another. Sometime I have the same dreams. I'd have to say I remember a very good bit of my dreams every morning when I wake up. I'd like to believe what you say is true, but I still don't see the connection yet. Right now, to me, dreams are just some type of memories and experiences that play out in your mind one way or another. I also have lucid dreams fairly often. I just can't make them happen when I want. Those are extremely cool dreams.


You are in a rare percentile. I, like you, lucid dream, but I have mastered techniques to do this whenever I choose allowing me to see on the otherside of the road, and it aint pretty. I started out though at a younger age being in the same position as you. It happened quite naturally without my control. It appears that in most dreams you are on a very subconscious level creating the world as you go along, but as you are doing this, you are exposed to attack by entities that actually live in that creative void.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by anon52
I want to know this: All of my family (from as far back as ever) is caucasian. Every single one of them, does make us from a different world, if so please tell me (I want to know).

Also wouldn't make the English language an alien language?


A different world as in Mars? Yes

As far as the English Language goes? No, caucasions just don't speak English.

No offense, but please stay as long as possible in school. You're going to need it.
Also read, read, read.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by MikeboydUS

Originally posted by schuyler
You know, there's not much you can do with a post like this. It's another one of those dreamscape = reality issues coupled with odd biblical interpretations and 'facts' such that humans evolved on Mars. It's a reality not shared by most people. This is an unusual mix, a wide-ranging delusional fantasy, but it does have competition. We have someone on here who insists he has multiple implants that aliens use to electrocute him. Cell Phone towers are control mechnisms. And we have sleeper, who talks to aliens in his head and has sex with hot alien females on alien pool tables. And Lear continues to insist that the Moon has a breathable atmosphere (though I don't think he's serious). This stuff has been going on since the fifties with a long cast of characters. Insofar as these people are still functional in society and earn their own keep, I say just let them be. Any worse and they're gonna need some meds. Worse than that and we need to consider putting them away at taxpayer expense. But as long as all hey need is a tinfoil hat, hey. Okay, as long as you leave the carbines alone. I kind of wish they had a forum of their own. It's too bad this is the slot to put this stuff because seeing this no one else will take it as a serious place for research and development. A cross to be borne, apparently.

I'm reminded of the army recuiting poster: "A Reality of One." Dream On, but you might want to consider getting some help.


What I wonder is how much is Delusion and how much is Disinfomation? I think its fair to say much of its both. Some of it is organized propaganda to sell books, hoaxes, or even genuinely disinform investigators. Much of the rest is fantasy.


shuyler and mikeboyd's posts are the only ones in the post that make any sense. does no one have a brain anymore?



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Pjotr
This post is fun!

I think I know you Horus8. I hear the booming echo of an ex-Castaneda follower. It gets one to know one. I have that DNA too. I am a dreamer.


Besides a good storyteller, you are also mistaken here and there.



Any anthropologist will concede that there is a huge difference between the caucasion body, and the rest of the peoples of the earth of an indigenous nature (hence the word indigenous, you ever hear of indigenous whites?).


"Indigenous" is a term you use in perspective. For instance, the Romans met a lot of "white" indigenous tribes, they called barbarians most of the time.
White indigenous people were "Huns", "Bavarians", "Goths", "Kelts". You still have some of these peoples in Upper Scandanavia and in Siberia. Nomadic people that generally follow herds in those territories.



However, caucasions are quite different, the people of sumer etc... the original greeks and atlanteans, and trojans, all caucasion semetic tribes. the whites obviously did not spring from the africans, south east asians, or other indians of the world, nor did those tribes spring from the whites, but they did spring from one another. This is why the white race is so war like and controling. Mars = God of war, Aries.




Actually, I am not wrong or right, and either are you. Because as soon as you get back about 30,000 years everyone is indigenous and nomadic at some point because of global cataclysms, and following food. What I'm saying is that they're three types of what I consider to be Aryan stock that are different than the Jews, and the Greeks and Italians which are a fusion. The Russians, The Germans, and the Celts. But we are all sons of Noah, However, I'm not contesting genetic makeup here. Have you read Germs, Guns, and Steel? Certainly indiginous people are violent and war like at points, but the caucasions take it to an entirely new level, and have since they were completely taken over by the masonic-reptilian-illuminati trifecta. this has caused Africans and Indians that were certainly violent at certain points in history, but not that violent, to all of a sudden have to anny up too. When indians with arrows are met by whites with guns. Indians learn how to get guns and fight back. Show me the indigenous race with whites slaves? You can't. But I can show you a hundred caucasion
castes with indian and african slaves. There are no mistakes in life, because all is in a state of change. If you wait long enough a mistake becomes reality, because it never wasn't.

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posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by malakiem
shuyler and mikeboyd's posts are the only ones in the post that make any sense. does no one have a brain anymore?


Isn't that ironic. This is like watching a man in a bananna suit rape a monkey.

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posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8
They are helping us, but we need to help ourselves. It's like drug addicts; you can do everything for them, and they'll still relapse. They need to want to change themselves first, and we're the drug addicts, and the higher races of humans are our concerned parents. As for why they can't stop the reptiles? Well, America can't stop Iran, or the insurgents of Iraq, or China from becoming a monster, or other terrorist groups, and we are the supposed "BEST" military might in the world (because of our selling out the human race to aliens to further our technology [which only the rich owners of these technologies benefit from]). The USA! Yay! Not. It's not that easy. The other human races have advanced to more peaceful levels at higher densities. They are no longer the birds in the mouth of the crocodiles cleaning, they are condors high in the jet stream preening. We are the birds in the crocodiles mouth cleaning. We need to let the crocodile clean it's own teeth. The reptilians were built for war, and in the astral plane are indeed the devils ruling hell, and torchering and burning you for eternity. It must end. Even the most advanced human races are wary of the reptilians. they are nasty mofo's

[edit on 11-8-2007 by Horus8]


Problem with this is that most people are not even aware that there are extraterrestrials on Earth, or that we have a serious issue on our hands. No one will listen without irrefutable proof.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:35 PM
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I'm listening. Obviously a lot of people here are. Credo Mutwa is. David Icke is.
The governor of Arizona certainly is. "The khabs are in the ku, not the ku in khabs"



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8
I'm listening. Obviously a lot of people here are. Credo Mutwa is. David Icke is.
The governor of Arizona certainly is. "The khabs are in the ku, not the ku in khabs"


I too am listening, but it wouldn't even matter if there were proof of any extraterrestrials. Some people will not believe anything until they see these entities with their own two eyes. It is very difficult to change someones beliefs when they were raised to believe the complete opposite.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 07:51 PM
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This is a hard reality to except even after seeing it with your own eyes.
It's really quite a depressing shock to the system, but a challenge none the less.
And challenges are what life is all about.



posted on Aug, 11 2007 @ 09:16 PM
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Wow,

This is certainly a fascinating thread.

Thanks Horus8!

I always knew that we were all aliens!

Anywho, I have a question


How do the reptillians age their human bodies? I mean how can the queen of England look so old if she is a reptile under that aged skin? Im sure im not making any sense. Do they just think of aging while they are tranforming?

I just wanted to let you know that everything you have said makes too much sense to ignore.

Also I lucid dream a lot. I have many lucid experiences of using my inner energy. Is this a product of my mind, or am I actually using this energy in an astral plane? I have never lost a battle agaisnt opposing evil forces, does this mean anything?

BTW its way more fun being "crazy"
Life is too short to deny everything.

And to the sheeple
BAHHHhhhhhh


[edit on 11-8-2007 by IMAdamnALIEN]



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posted on Aug, 12 2007 @ 05:27 AM
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posted on Aug, 12 2007 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Horus8You are in a rare percentile. I, like you, lucid dream, but I have mastered techniques to do this whenever I choose allowing me to see on the otherside of the road, and it aint pretty. I started out though at a younger age being in the same position as you. It happened quite naturally without my control. It appears that in most dreams you are on a very subconscious level creating the world as you go along, but as you are doing this, you are exposed to attack by entities that actually live in that creative void.


I've tried some of the tricks that are supposed to make you have lucid dreams more, but I just can't seem to get it. They just happen on their own. I know practice makes perfect. Any tips?

While lucid dreaming, you are able to manipulate things in your dream as though you are awake. Create things. Stuff like that. You can basically do whatever you want without repercussions, except, when an event is happening in your dream that's actually causing a reaction in the physical world. For instance, to make a long dream short, once I had to jump in a pond to avoid small tornadoes buzzing around me. I was under water looking up at the surface. I was running out of breath. Just as I reached the surface for air, I actually woke up gasping for air. Some would probably call that sleep apnea or something similar. Except it doesn't happen often like that. Dreams can sometimes cause your physical body to react to what's happening in your dream or your physical body state causes what you dream about (like maybe I stopped breathing in my sleep, so I dreamed I was suffocating under water), however you look at it.

I'm fuzzy on the astral plane stuff or 4th, 5th dimensions, etc.... You say that lucid dreaming is a possible way to be open for attack. Dreams are in your mind. How is it possible for one to attack you when it's just happening in your head? I look at lucid dreams as a playing field that I am the sole ruler or player. What I say goes. It's my dream, that simple. Bad things have tried to happen to me in those types of dreams, but I've always known how to change my dream to stop it. Since I can do anything in my lucid dreams. I more often have good dreams than bad thank God. haha

Also, what are some of your experiences dealing with UFO while under water that you can share? Or any other strange happenings while in service?

Q

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posted on Aug, 12 2007 @ 02:48 PM
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Thanks for you posts horus, you're what this is all about. Tell us more about what you know.



posted on Aug, 12 2007 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by priloco
www.zeitlin.net...


This corrolates quite well with what I've learned and encountered. Thanks for the link.




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