Phil Schnider Debunked! I'm tired of the lies!

There are lies and bs in Phil's stories...

None the less I am certain that the bases here are connected and in contact with something... he had an encounter down there or knew of one and put himself in the place...

I know the geology, i'm a spelunker of some serious capability, i go underground here in the SW all the time and it's vast and unexplored, I know base entrance locations all around the area, have seen the movements and he is dead on on where we located these "so called aliens"

Phil... is definitely not entirely full of crap...

Nor are they from "outer space"

So this is what he's been up to since he was on Dukes of hazzard...hasn't aged well, either. He works for the government now?

The mysterious surroundings of his death give his material a lot of credibility. He's one of the few people who, on the surface, seem to be straight out of a loony bin, but might actually be speaking the truth.

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I am not so sure. If the fingers werent lost in a firefight with aliens, surely it can be tracked down how he lost his fingers. Also why would they send in an armed geologist if they had soldiers present to take on the treath? You would think they keep the non combat personell faaar away from the threat.

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And to Ghost1, please accept my sincerest apologies if I have offended you in anyway. Just because you read something on the internet and it is sworn to by the Joint Chiefs of Staff doesn’t mean its true.

Very well said John, glad to see you back here. Hope you are well. You are so right, the internet, for all of it's good points, does in fact contain a great deal of lies. You simply cannot trust any government, either.

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My best guess would be that they have tried to communicate with the people of earth, and failed.

Actually, they didn't fail at all. Many have been contacted, myself included. There are many stories of contact in this forum alone.

hi guys and girls
this is my first post on ATS and im looking forward to all your reply's, Fist of all i would like to state that im not arrogant enough to say someone is completely wrong or indeed correct but in the same respect i have my own ideas.
I would ike to ask John to comment on my findings regarding phil if possible.
I should start by saying i dont believe that either phil or Bob lazar are telling the truth, i do believe that we are being manipulated in a massive way and yes there are underground bases throughout the world.

The main thing i cant seem to get my head round regarding Phil was his description upon first meeting the grey's at Dulce and the fight that ensued.
Now he states he was lowered down a hole to collect rock samples with an army escort, when he was faced with the greys his first reaction was to load his gun and fire which he managed to kill 2 of them.
Who takes a gun to go to work and does not ask questions? if there is a threat of violence and he knew of this why was his gun not loaded and just on safety? and why did he manage to load a magazine cock the weapon and fire off enough rounds to kill 2 greys without his professional army escort who would be carrying a higher powered rifle or sub machine gun firing of any rounds?

Now his wife also claims in an interview that the first thing Phil actually did was to throw ammonia at the greys in the form of urine. this would state he knew the ammonia would be more effective that the fire arm so he must of had prior knowledge. but again the same thing counts how did he manage to pee on the greys before his escort did anything.

Now my question to John is this, was it common knowledge about the most effective way to kill a grey or draconian or did he just guess?

And my second question is for directly for John, Lets just assume that everything you say is real which would be both massively exciting and terrifying why are you not more disturbed about what lays ahead for the majority of the human race? This is not an attack on you John im extremely thankful for you taking your time to help open our eyes and allow us to come to our own decision.

Thanks guys

Helgas

"Undergound cities for government officialls all over the US" -Undegound shelters yes, but I don't know of any that are whole cities for 20'000+ people.

It isn't unbelievable that such things may have been built in the US. It is a known fact that such things have been built in the United Kingdom as well as in China during the Cold War - these are both well-documented in multiple forms of media. There are entire documentaries that have been made about such places. Entire city-sized places intended to hold and house many thousands of people in case of nuclear war.

I would be surprised if the US had not built such things when both its allies and adversaries have built such things, even if they are no longer really maintained.

hell we have caverns in missouri that run all the way through texas big enough to house hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. i see no real problem with mining excavations that could develop the same results with the budgets our government is wasting

Hi guys I hope they do have somewhere to put us when it all goes wrong lol
Helgas

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[""Rhyolite has Nothing to do withunderground bases. It refers to NSA SIGINT Spy Sattelites. "I worked in government black projects, known to most people as the Skunk Works" -BS The Skunk Work is a Devision of Lockheed Martin, not another name for black projects.""]

Did you ever think for a second what the gentleman meant was the name used was a coverup? you know... as in ' coverup operation ' ?


as in.. let's use a name people are familiar with to keep the operation under wraps..

as in ' private '

as in ' nobody is supposed to know about this '


???
the guy isn't lying. in fact, im pretty pissed people continued in this topic rather than continuing the original.

Everyone is talking about UFO´s and military bases , and everybody is forgetting about the Intraterrestrials , they are the true owners of this planet not us , this planet real name is Shan and they are the Shan civilization , the extraterrestrial Union already know that and considers us to be barbarians living in villages on the planet surface. This guy heard the truth somewhere but there are missing gaps and in his story, he was very brave revealing the existence of greys and of the operational underground military bases(not only in usa but all the world), but he do not mention the civilization of shan , if he really worked in all of this as he said he would know about the intra, who they respect our free will even knowing they are the true owners of this planet and sign a treat that the other species have to respect our free will and this planet.

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Sources? Evidence?

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After watching hours of his presentations, his is a unique story,.. though, he is similar to Hoagland in the sense that he will say very compelling things for a sustained period, then he will slip in some completely absurd thing that makes your head jerk back!...

I'm not sure what to make of that,... although,... I will admit he seems SPOT ON about the NWO building D.U.M.B.'s
for the coming "culling"...

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well just checked a video dont know what you saw but he def has fingers missing on his left hand.

Originally posted by Ghost01
OK, THAT'S IT! I had all the Phil Schnider BS I can take! Here at ATS we DENY Ignorance, and I'm denying the Phil Schnider nonsense. Time and time again, this guy has made claims that range from Amusingly False, to Manfestly Absurd! How long are people going to be fooled by this stuff?

And Im sick of some ignorant skeptics who think all said by everyone is fake, and that when they debunk that is the whole damn truth because they debunk it, debunk my a$$

I watched his third lecture on YouTube this evening as there are 3 different ones, despite talking about the same. I do not see anything so lieful about what he says. He shows some pictures and metals that I think are good enough proof considering how his life ends. Whether he misinterprets some things and do not use the proper terms or describe correctly, doesn't mean all is fake.

I was willing to see posted videos by his daughter/niece? Joan about alien footage. Sadly the moderators decided to lock all possible threads without giving time for it to come. Moderators could simply let it stay 2-3 days and if he/she didn't post anything, then we could all agree that was a troll or not someone who was going to release any videos. But no, they closed it and deleted without giving any time for us the curious to see what it is about... What if is the real she and she really couldn't post them at that time?

Ok none of that disproved phil in any way

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First of all i think that Phill was a liar and he can be easily debunked, If phill really knew anything about this subject he would have metioned instraterestrials, but he didnt , and there are a lot of gaps in his story ,like he uses StarTrek stuff and mixed it with something he heard from ufologists and made all that fantastic story.


Turiddu ,, seriously, Evidence ? Are you kiding me?

I am now going to share knowledge about who are the Intraterrestrials and they are living among us today.

The intraterrestials are the legitimate owners of this planet, living inside the earth. In times far back in time they have lived on the surface as we do today, but for other reasons they were forced to migrate to the interior of the Earth and there are even today, a high civilization that has contacts with other civilizations from other worlds. Many flying objects sighted are not aliens, are Intras, especially when viewed in and out of the sea or appearing or disappearing behind the mountains. Many extraterrestrial races when they talk about "earth" or "civilization Shan", they are referring to the Intras and not us. Many of their ships has a hallmark, like the one pictured below:

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But where is your evidence, why is he a lier and the picture did not look like a ufo it looked like a button off a shirt or coat, give us more clearly defined evidence.

I think the former US Air Force people who came forward on the UFO press conference in Sept 2010 and talked about objects jamming their nuke silos saying (we don't know if alien or from this planet but they are more advanced than any human technology). Saying that they are liers abecause someone decided he doesn't believe it - well it's his own problem, I think the former AForce people are credible of what they said, what - someone thinks they gathered peopel to tell bogus stories? And I think they are more credible than Schneider.

Either way, what do you know of him? Why was he murdered? What right do you have to tell he's a lier? What if he said true things and only some things were exaggerated? Sorry you almighty smart skeptics who have the impudence to think you are the only one truthful all others are liars and idiots according to you, who are you to claim he is a lier? What do you base it on? Nothing.