Phil Schnider Debunked! I'm tired of the lies!

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posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 09:41 AM
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please explain why you believe this man knew the truth and had artifacts etc...??

I have a camcorder and a tripod at home. If I made a video of myself talking about how Unicorns are real and showed some artifacts to prove it then posted it on youtube would you beleive me?




posted on Aug, 31 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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I've seen his videos before, but lets just focus on this one...

www.youtube.com...

How could anybody take this stuff seriously? I mean listen to the story he's telling. It makes absolutely no sense at all. He stammers and stutters so much, it's obvious that he was just making it up as he goes.

1. Phil: "I was involved with building another base inside Dulce, NM... which is Los Alamos laboratory." (Dulce is almost 100 miles form Los Alamos and has nothing to do with the lab. Dose he even know where Dulce is?)

2. Phil: "We were going to build something to the SW of that, where we drilled four holes, some of which were 2 1/2 miles under the surface... Some of the equipment we used then did about two miles a day." (OK, so it took a day and a half to drill theses holes then? I'm sure the oil industry would love to have that equipment)

3. Phil: "The equipment kept on breaking, so we wanted to send a human observer down to find out what was going on". (So not only were these holes drilled 2 1/2 miles in a couple days, but they were big enough to fit people? The deepest mine I have heard of, was I believe... 2 point 3 miles down, and temperatures reached 160 degrees. I hope the guys on Phil's job got paid good)

4. Phil: "The government knew all about this... I was lowered down one of these holes and saw a gray... So I got out my gun" (OK, so the government is having this base built. But they purposely don't tell them that there's already a base down there. So they drill into that base. Phil gets lowered down 2 1/2 miles into the earth in a hole and sees an alien standing there. And for some unknown reason, he (an Engineer... supposedly) is carrying a gun and tries to shoot the alien. Why an Engineer would be wearing a gun while being lowered into a hole, I have no idea)

5. Phil: "It was hard to reach my gun in the 'space-like' suit I was wearing" (Right before that, he said that when he saw the alien, the "stench was unbelievable". How do you smell something inside a "space suit"?)

5. Phil: "66 Secret Service agents and Green Berets lost their lives". (Green Berets specialize in training foreign fighting forces. Secret Service is mainly a security group that protects the president. What would either of those groups have to do with fighting aliens?)


So lets recap... He dug these holes and found the aliens 2 1/2 miles down. Ok... Where's the holes? Where's the place this happened? Point to it on a map. Easy enough... Anybody can point to a spot on a map. He never did. Why? Because he couldn't... Because it never happened.

I'm up for a mystery like anybody, but come on... Don't be mislead by people like this.



posted on Sep, 1 2011 @ 06:54 AM
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very well said. No one to this day has vouched for Phil's story not here not anywhere on the web. Only the hardcore beleivers that need to beleive without logic. Im not denying that he lived and died mysteriously, just doubting the whole story he told.



posted on Sep, 7 2011 @ 06:39 AM
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There are others like simple employees who were just doing their job at a construction and they come across something when following some tunnles that seemed to be there, they did not want to talk about it anymore. Plus Phil isn't the only one talking about them

Imagine this as 3 circles each circle is someone's story or case, these 3 circles meet in one area. This area could be very much the fact that there are such deep tunnels beneath. Now one says reptilians. other says other aliens.. here is where it's hard to follow.



posted on Sep, 14 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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By "hardcore beleivers" you mean ignorants... ?



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 07:41 AM
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to some extent yes but I didnt want to offend anyone but people often have a religious like belief in this and choose to ignore the reasonable questions put forward by logical thinking people.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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I share your point of view , people think it is better to be ignorant and oblivious to the truth and like to live in their own dream worlds , it is so easy to deceive people , ignorance is a blessing for them.



posted on Sep, 15 2011 @ 06:54 PM
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Remember in Phil's video where he holds up a piece of 'Corbomite'?

Has anyone bothered to Google 'Corbomite' to see where it comes from?



posted on Sep, 16 2011 @ 03:03 AM
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Captain Kirk 'le Star Trek



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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I have watched the Phil Schneider video's...
I have found four of the lectures Phil Schneider gave before he was killed...

He was found dead January 1996, due to what appears to be an execution style murder.

He was found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped around his neck.

According to sources, it appeared that he repeatedly suffered torture before he was finally killed.

Seven months prior to his death, Schneider did a lecture on the forces he had discovered at Dulce. He was dying of cancer at the time...

1 Phil Schneider May 1995 Lecture..
www.youtube.com...

2 Phil Schneider August 1995 Lecture...
www.youtube.com...

3 Phil Schneider Sept 1995 Area 51 Lecture...
www.youtube.com...

4 Phil Schneider November 1995 Lecture...
www.youtube.com...

Phil was not a professional speaker.. He was dying of cancer and probably heavily medicated... He was doing his best to recant what had happened 20+ years prior...

I think he did an OK job... For what its worth I believe him..

In Phil's last video he mentioned Al Bielek... So I googled the name... What I got was this site regarding the Philadelphia experiment... And aliens..
www.bielek.com...

He also mentioned Skip Frombach... So I googled it.. I got a bunch of BigFoot stuff but nothing about aliens except this cryptic document...
www.brianlaks.com...

Has anyone else done any digging, or are we just going to give up...



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Al Bielek has been on Coast 2 Coast and other radio shows quite frequently.. I would dismiss Schneider as a joke if it was not for his mysterious "suicide"



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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Also... look at the picture on the first page showing his thumb... If you look at it closely you will notice that he has a prosthetic thumb. He is getting a picture with his wife and baby and didn't want to look like a freak show... You can clearly see the break... So don't believe the hype... These scars are not fake..

www.myspace.com...#{%22ImageId%22%3A2820185}



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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www.myspace.com/philschneider1947/photos/2820185#{%22ImageId%22%3A2820185}



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Hey... frozenspark... Thanks for not letting this thread die... I need to know the truth... I know the truth is out there... If Phil Schneider is fake, lets prove he is a fake and not just dismiss it... I have to know...



posted on Sep, 23 2011 @ 09:28 PM
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Phil lost those fingers playing around with explosives in his younger days.

...and it wasn't 'Corbomite'.



posted on Sep, 24 2011 @ 03:25 PM
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Anyone who would go through the efforts he made to tell his fantastical stories could just as easily be expected to fake an elaborate death scene to try to give himself more credibility.

After all, he knew his core audience pretty well.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Th1nker
I have watched the Phil Schneider video's...
I have found four of the lectures Phil Schneider gave before he was killed...

He was found dead January 1996, due to what appears to be an execution style murder.

He was found dead in his apartment with a piano wire wrapped around his neck.

According to sources, it appeared that he repeatedly suffered torture before he was finally killed.

Seven months prior to his death, Schneider did a lecture on the forces he had discovered at Dulce. He was dying of cancer at the time...

1 Phil Schneider May 1995 Lecture..
www.youtube.com...

2 Phil Schneider August 1995 Lecture...
www.youtube.com...

3 Phil Schneider Sept 1995 Area 51 Lecture...
www.youtube.com...

4 Phil Schneider November 1995 Lecture...
www.youtube.com...

Phil was not a professional speaker.. He was dying of cancer and probably heavily medicated... He was doing his best to recant what had happened 20+ years prior...

I think he did an OK job... For what its worth I believe him..

In Phil's last video he mentioned Al Bielek... So I googled the name... What I got was this site regarding the Philadelphia experiment... And aliens..
www.bielek.com...

He also mentioned Skip Frombach... So I googled it.. I got a bunch of BigFoot stuff but nothing about aliens except this cryptic document...
www.brianlaks.com...

Has anyone else done any digging, or are we just going to give up...


All the bullet points and links you have posted here have been posted on this forum many times before and don't mean anything because they are not backed by anything or anyone concrete

Al Bielek has been debunked very robustly by a very thorough investigative effort from www.bielek-debunked.com Its a brilliant site and the investigators even managed to track down the son of the man's picture that Al pinched from the 1936 Princeton yearbook.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 09:31 AM
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Nice job dusting off this 4 year old thread.


Phil Schnider has never produced one shred of evidence to back up any of his claims. Period. End of story.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Reopened story: Phil Schneider and Thomas Castello haven't written any books to say they are doing it all for money and people buying their book unlike A. Sanchez for example. People like John Lear and others confirmed these stories. I do not think they (Lear or the Las Vegas showman) have any interest in supporting some people's claims just like that when they gain nothing from it. In fact, in order to have people confirming these and I mean people who are into these things, something could be true out of it.

Corbomite or whatever other name may be made up part of a story but no one explained his murdering. The pictures he showed were from some secret projects, alien or not alien.

I also dont think people deep into these stories would believe them blindly like that.. there is a reason. So Phil Schneider and Castello have no book, no sign of doing it for money, so no not debunked, just rejected by some ATSers who think they are so knowledgable.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 11:28 AM
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Still no evidence, only rhetoric.





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