I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

Look I agree Hank, the Atlantis bit could be seen as 'knowingly withholding information' but again, all we can do is highlight these things. Which I might add you have been doing a good job of.

We don't know sleepers objective, other than he has proclaimed that he is coming clean on ET's.

This is where my frustration stops, It is pointless to get p'd off over things we can not control. You know that.

He may have you on ignore, don't forget that reality too.

Observe - - if you knew where Atlantis was - - and you stated here in this forum.

What do you think would happen to your life?

Perhaps it was wrong to mention it in the first place - - but it is definitely correct not to reveal.

Originally posted by kix
Do you think tta we will see more "openess from "them" in let say the next 20 years (since you stated that Milton is in the side that wants to push things and the "other" side wants to keep it bussiness as usual).
best regards

The arm wrestling continues but not for full disclosure, more on how much technology to drop down here---whether to pick up the pace or slow it down.

Personal disclosure has picked up and will continue to increase exponentially---not everyone will remember it but it will be there at a flick of the switch---should ET want to hit that switch---and turn everyone on like Christmas lights---lol

Milton maintains that will not happen---talk about party pooper

Originally posted by one_small_step
We don't know sleepers objective, other than he has proclaimed that he is coming clean on ET's.

This is where my frustration stops, It is pointless to get p'd off over things we can not control. You know that.

He may have you on ignore, don't forget that reality too.

I will agree, it is not worth being frustrated over. If I get to the point of frustration I take a step back and reexamine what is going on and if my involvement is worth my effort. (Not just in relation to this thread, it is a good rule of thumb for life in general.)

If he has me on ignore, its a recent development, he was downright chatty with me a few pages back. Heh

And I know better than to expect sleeper to answer the Atlantis part, he has said he won't answer it, but that doesn't make it any less of a valid point. I only brough it up these last few times to see if any of the rest that are posting along n this thread would weigh in on the subject. Again, it seems like some would rather ignore what doesn't fit.

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Let's up the stakes. A woman is raped by a man and no one sees it, how can it be proven as true?

You are the master, Hank. Yes, let's up the stakes indeed and raise a totally inappropriate topic.

You really are the king. You've got a gift.

Originally posted by Rudolph_X
Hello Sleeper.

Yeah, I like antique wood furniture too. I've been busy making some "Queen Anne" table legs for a project I'm working on. Making curvey table legs is a little tricky. I like working with wood, and have a small shop downstairs, so I haven't had much time to keep up with the thread. I've just been in 'lurking mode' lately. I got a feeling this thread could go on indefinitely...

I have a shop in my basement too, but it’s filled with old radios, something about vacuum tubes and old circuitry gives me goose bumps---lol

Ordered the books, and look forward to reading them. (I got to have some time to let the material sink in before I can comment on them.)

Thanks again!

I hope you like them because I don’t accept returns---lol----kidding man!

Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
Let's up the stakes. A woman is raped by a man and no one sees it, how can it be proven as true?

You are the master, Hank. Yes, let's up the stakes indeed and raise a totally inappropriate topic.

You really are the king. You've got a gift.

How is it inappropriate?

sleeper has claimed to have been taken in a ship and had sexual relations with another. Rape is forced sexual relations. The original example of someone stealing your wallet was like comparing apples to oranges. The comparison to someone proving a rape and the stigma (mostly from the person being raped) that can come from being raped can be VERY similar to an alien abduction.

Originally posted by moderndayHanSolo

if only i had a good ship to get off this place, i have no idea where the millenium falcon is, lol

What? Did you leave the keys in it again? Chewbacca probably took it for a spin

Hi Annee,

Your right if I knew where Atlantis was I wouldn't devulge it on a forum knowing what would happen. And to be honest when/if Sleeper wrote that I think it just slipped out . Unfortunately there are people here that are right on top of everything and that could be for the good just as it can be a pain in the butt.

If Hank does show the proof that Sleeper said this all Sleeper has to do is write a few words correcting it, mistakes happen.

As many have said here we are all old enough to form our own opinions and I do have that faith and trust with Sleeper. I am not saying that I agree with everything he writes but he does have knowledge of many things I do know.

I look forward to his blog but I am also concerned because of all the hoopla here that he might just sweep it under the rug.

I know if I was Sleeper I would not write and share any further information here.

Sadly to say I don't think we the Experiencer's will ever have a place where we can have to ourselves to share all that we know or just to seek help in understanding. I was hoping Springer would be able to do this for us but I understand the problems he has to handle on a site. To be honest I give Springer a high five for the patience I wonder if he is bold yet.

Finally - we're having Fun again

Now If I can just think of a good question - Think - Think - Think

Did we cover Natural Resources and Over population?

Observe - - Sleeper did say something about Atlantis - - along the lines of it is not where some think it is.

Can't remember exacty phrasing.

Originally posted by Lady-Z

What is love?

Doing for others without expecting anything in return---nibbling on your spouse’s ear---reading a book to your child when they ask you----when you would rather be nibbling on your spouse’s ear

Originally posted by GLDNGUN

Originally posted by sleeper
When I first began to write it I was convinced that Jesus was a real person and wrote it that way---but as I continued to write information came to me from you guessed it my ET contacts.

What percent of this book is from your research and what percent is channeled from "ET"?

More than half of it, nevertheless I maintained the Christian slant and tweaked in some of my new revelation.

The manuscript that I have written after that book was published supersedes everything in that book

Originally posted by HankMcCoy
How is it inappropriate?

sleeper has claimed to have been taken in a ship and had sexual relations with another. Rape is forced sexual relations.

You are misquoting him. Nowhere is he forced to do anything ion the blog/script I read. Where is that part about being forced to have sex?

Rape is something you are mentioning, and seeing the obviously inappropriate angle which a banned user tried to take this thread, I'd say you are treading on very thin ice.

Hank, I am going to ask you a simple question: Is it the sexual content of sleeper's work which titillates you, and keeps you after him? Is that it? Because I can pick up any of a dozen books at the bookstore which have sex scenes in them (sleeper's does not) and yet when I read sleeper's stuff, I'm thinking about the wonders of alien life.

Hank, do you really intend to string your feeble ATS existence out for another five pages of this thread using the rape analogy for proving alien contact? If so, I will place you on ignore. No really, you'll be the first.

Originally posted by alienarena

When I first began to write it I was convinced that Jesus was a real person and wrote it that way---but as I continued to write information came to me from you guessed it my ET contacts.

Hey Sleeper - So what specific information did the ET contacts give you about Jesus?

It’s in a manuscript collecting dust for now, and until I decide whether or not to publish it I would rather not talk about it---however my other alien thread has some comments on it

Originally posted by smallpeeps
You are misquoting him. Nowhere is he forced to do anything ion the blog/script I read. Where is that part about being forced to have sex?

Did I say sleeper was raped? No. I said he had sexual relations. THEN I went on to say that Rape was ALSO sexual relations, only in the case of rape, they are forced.

The idea that a woman can PROVE she was raped by a man and the idea that a man can PROVE he had sexual relations with a woman are not difficult concepts to understand, you are purposely grasping at straws and it isn't like you.. usually your arguments are MUCH more sound.

Rape is something you are mentioning, and seeing the obviously inappropriate angle which a banned user tried to take this thread, I'd say you are treading on very thin ice.

The user in question was banned for posting pornographic images. Insinuating he was banned for his opinions is a misrepresentation of the facts.

Hank, I am going to ask you a simple question: Is it the sexual content of sleeper's work which titillates you, and keeps you after him? Is that it? Because I can pick up any of a dozen books at the bookstore which have sex scenes in them (sleeper's does not) and yet when I read sleeper's stuff, I'm thinking about the wonders of alien life.

How can I be titilated by sexual content.. that isn't in his blog? Sleeper's blog does not include sexual intercourse? Are we reading the same blog? I -clearly- read differently, perhaps I am mistaken.. if I am, please correct me, I will apologize for being wrong.

Although, not to dodge your question, I am only interested in the sexual content of his blog as it relates to whether or not it can be used as evidence to confirm or deny his story. If you could point me (in a u2u if you wish, as not to draw this thread off topic) to some posts that would make you think I have an unhealthy titilation with the apparantly nonexisitant sexual content, maybe we can discuss it further.

Hank, do you really intend to string your feeble ATS existence out for another five pages of this thread using the rape analogy for proving alien contact? If so, I will place you on ignore. No really, you'll be the first.

I only brought it up again because you questioned it. If left-of-center thinking offends you, regardless of whether or not it is about rape, maybe you should ignore me.



[edit on 2-2-2007 by HankMcCoy]

Sleeper when my grandson helped me purchase your books one of them (the one that was more expensive) had one used for 4 bucks and I bought that. So your earthly vacation might be ordering out and eating the pizza in you back yard.

I am glad you are back and sounding like yourself.

Originally posted by observe50
Sleeper when my grandson helped me purchase your books one of them (the one that was more expensive) had one used for 4 bucks and I bought that. So your earthly vacation might be ordering out and eating the pizza in you back yard.

I am glad you are back and sounding like yourself.

Heck, I had that trip to the Rain Forest all planed out---

Pizza it is


Hope you enjoy the book---my first run had many typos---that were not caught until several books were sold---if you get one of those let me know and I will replace it with a new book, no charge.

Originally posted by one_small_step

Sleeper, I trust that 'my aura is bigger than yours' syndrome doesn't exist back home.???

Envy, greed, hate, etc, remain here on earth and turn to dust along with the meat that was your spacesuit---the only thing you take with you to your next hangout is whatever love and goodness you managed to create while here.

Now those moving in the other direction that's a different story

Sleeper,

I'm like the old lady that lived in a shoe and believe me I can overlook that stuff (it doesn't bother me) but thanks for the offer.

I thought it was cute when someone wrote:

I can siltl raed erveytinhg eevn if it is msispleled.