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I’m coming clean on Extraterrestrials

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posted on Feb, 3 2007 @ 08:59 PM
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Naw, no thoughts there, just an obvious easy blast, a clever accepted retort with no wisdom backing it up. ...an easy predictable smash on Annee. Makes ya feel good, eh?

Your thoughts are worth a penny when you react with such obvious ego hits..., apologize.




posted on Feb, 3 2007 @ 09:10 PM
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I wonder if sleeper is on some mission with Milton?
He hasnt posted in awhile.



posted on Feb, 3 2007 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by muse801
just an obvious easy blast


Yup.

If you object to someone taking a swing at your big, slow, easy curve balls.....get off the pitcher's mound.

sleeper,
Many of the ideas and suggestions in your story are wonderful frameworks for living. Ideas that describe a loving relationship with family and an awareness of the beautiful world around us are certainly welcome in any discussion.

These ideas and concepts are expressed everyday by many people in many different contexts.

Here's my question---Why is it necessary to frame your story within a "science fiction-y" adventure? Did you decide to stage it in this manner in order to reach a specific audience? Or might it be a case where you have expressed it this way because you are sub-consciously fearing a main stream audience would not pay any attention to the message? Because honestly, Dr. Phil and others make a pretty good living expressing nearly identical concepts.



posted on Feb, 3 2007 @ 09:59 PM
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Mr. Penny - - I do not read Sci Fi often - - because like those you offered - - they are not about possible other worlds - - other civilizations and the inhabitants of - - - but about human and THEIR frailities - greed - lust - jealousy - anger - - fear - - set in a Sci Fi setting.

However - I did enjoy Greg Bear's "Darwin's Radio"

Interestingly I referred to you as FLAT - - not a term I've ever used before - - my "guys" actually told me to use it - - then to go look up Flatlander - - another term I had never heard of.

YOU are a Flatlander. And here is what some other like you tried to do to the Award winning "Darwin's Radio".

January 2006: Sci Fi Channel

DARWIN'S RADIO and DARWIN'S CHILDREN have been released by the Sci Fi Channel and will not be developed by them for a cable miniseries. Executives had changed the tone and emphasis on these books substantially—rendering the New Children into vicious mutant aliens with elf ears, blue blood, and telekinetic powers, something of a mix of "Village of the Damned" and "It's Alive." Eventually, creative differences became insurmountable. Producers Michael DeLuca, Howard Braunstein, and Created By's Vince Gerardis are now free to take the properties to other networks, or develop them as a feature film.

2000: Nebula Award!

DARWIN'S RADIO has won the prestigious Nebula award for best novel by the Science Fiction Writers of America announced April 28th, 2001. Click here for the full list of Nebula Award Winners!

2000: Endeavor Award!

DARWIN'S RADIO has won the ENDEAVOR award, a juried prize for the best novel of speculative fiction by Northwest author! It was given at OryCon in November of 2000.

2000: Hugo Nomination!

DARWIN'S RADIO has also been honored with a nomination for the Hugo Award!



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by muse801
Sleeper,

In a recently published book, (Can't remember the title, I'll get it later) the auther researched the Jesus story and found no evidence that he existed other than 30 to 80 year old heresay accounts that were heavily tampered with by Constantine and his Nicean creed group.

Your Honor, I submit, 30-80 year old heresay evidence, if it please the court.

No map or citation exists with Nazareth on it until way after—LOL


Hi Muse,

During Jesus’ time the place now called Nazareth was not a town; it was a desert with a few scattered caves with minimal human habitation. The word Nazareth means offshoot, a branch, depicting that the Christians were a branch, an offshoot of God’s chosen people, the Jews---it’s all allegorical



Did ET put the cross in the sky and direct Constantine, who according to the book, was babtized on his death bed by the cleric who insisted that the council not make Jesus part of the trinity/ God.



Constantine took advantage of the growing numbers of Christians and made it work for him---he in fact recreated himself in the image of Jesus in a not so subtle way. Nothing original about that because most Emperors believed themselves gods

Not familiar with the book you mentioned or the story behind it, so I can’t comment further



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by KREATOR

Hi sleeper,do you think that the ETs can see with our own eyes and witness everything we do?


It was that way in my blog, kind of scary that every biological optical device---eyes, including those mounted on insects and animals are transmitting signals that are picked up by ET---everyone smile



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by muse801
Sleeper,

Does Milton agree with the current String Theory--Everything is vibrating at certain frequencies as the bottom line of this universe?



String theory is only a marker of the distance we humans have so far reached into the bottomless rabbit hole---and it doesn’t even a scratch the quantum surface of Milton’s world.


I assume, ET's frequencies are faster and they are capable of manipulating them to whatever degree, if so, are humans capable of this also during this life?



ETs at Milton’s level manipulate dimensions like fish manipulate water, and birds the air

We humans don’t have those capabilities if we did some of us would vibrate ourselves off this rock---lol



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X

Using a dimensional coordinate system where vertical length, horizontal width, and spatial depth represent the three dimensional coordinates, I can visualize the three dimensional world. Then I can visualize this three-dimensional world moving along a fourth-dimensional time line from the past to the present and on into the future. This is how I visualize the space-time continuum.

Is Milton saying that the three dimensional world, as I described it, does not ‘travel’ along a fourth dimensional time line, but the past, present, and future exists simultaneously all at once on this 'fourth dimensional time line', as one gigantic, unchanging, ever present and everlasting megalith?

Is Milton saying that the passage of time is just an illusion we, through our physical senses, perceive because of our current state of being?


We have the illusion of time, nevertheless, there is linear point A to point B in our 3D existence otherwise everything bunches up---and that would throw a kink in the free will and those monthly rent and utility bills---things would really get confusing---unlike what I just wrote---lol



Could you get Milton to describe the actual architecture of our universe in a way that would help us to better visualize this illusory interaction between space and time in a more precise manner?



If you look at your desk it seems like a solid surface to you---yet there is nothing solid about it, the human mind sees solid---the Milton mind sees a variation of energy---and he can play it like a piano----ultimately even what we perceive as energy---is not even that---we have entered into the freaky zone----mind over matter stuff, the physical universe is missing a lot of matter for it to make any sense to our scientists---our great minds.

But does it really matter ---lol----you knew that was coming didn’t you?

Every galaxy in the universe is like a synapse connecting to other galaxies and dimensions---the universe is a huge schizophrenic brain---yet it remains perfect in every way---it is us at these low levels that are out of sync



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by MrPenny

Here's my question---Why is it necessary to frame your story within a "science fiction-y" adventure? Did you decide to stage it in this manner in order to reach a specific audience? Or might it be a case where you have expressed it this way because you are sub-consciously fearing a main stream audience would not pay any attention to the message? Because honestly, Dr. Phil and others make a pretty good living expressing nearly identical concepts.




Dr. Phil and them others have mainstream because mainstream are mostly asleep to concepts beyond ground level---earth, and are easier to entertain.

The Annees of the world know there is more to life than what simply meets the human eye and they are teased by those in the mainstream who often believe themselves the superior intellects, because they don’t fall for things they can’t see, touch, or taste. In other words by those who are limited in understanding the bigger picture in which life is only a pixel of the real show.

Those viewing only a pixel of the show are making judgments on those who can see a larger slice of reality---what’s wrong with this picture---



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 11:45 AM
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Sleeper it is funny how hypocritical mainstream is when is comes to reality. Mainstream's ideals are rock solid when if it goes against the flow of mainstreams belief system it can not exist or work.

All human senses can be deceived that is a fact, mainstream uses this arguement quite often, but how about mainstreams senses?

That is why I think their belief system is flawed and I put very little merit into people that think they are in the know and trying to control others.


Sleeper you have many excellent philosophies. I don't agree with all of them, but I do enjoy reading your thread.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 11:54 AM
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Sleeper, does milton ever mention Draconians, greys, Nordics? If so is he one of them? Or is he more highly evolved??



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 12:00 PM
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Hello Annee.


Earlier I read some other poster trying to make fun of Sci-Fi fans. Here's an interesting quote about Sci-Fi that I like.

From the Introduction of "Battlefield Earth" by L. Ron Hubbard:


"Science fiction does not come after the fact of a scientific discovery or development. It is the herald of possibility. It is the plea that someone should work on the future. Yet it is not prophecy. It is the dream that precedes the dawn when the inventor or scientist awakens and goes to his books or his lab saying, "I wonder whether I could make that dream come true in the world of real science." L. Ron Hubbard



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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Tag On to Real Truth

Why does a person allow themselves to be controlled? I do believe it is something you allow.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 12:13 PM
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Originally posted by Rudolph_X
Hello Annee.


Earlier I read some other poster trying to make fun of Sci-Fi fans. Here's an interesting quote about Sci-Fi that I like.

From the Introduction of "Battlefield Earth" by L. Ron Hubbard:


"Science fiction does not come after the fact of a scientific discovery or development. It is the herald of possibility. It is the plea that someone should work on the future. Yet it is not prophecy. It is the dream that precedes the dawn when the inventor or scientist awakens and goes to his books or his lab saying, "I wonder whether I could make that dream come true in the world of real science." L. Ron Hubbard



Oh Yeah! Rudolph - - - much of what we have today was first introduced by the imagination of Sci Fi storytellers.

But - was it just their imagination? Or was it through communications with advanced beings?

I absolutely believe some Sci Fi storytellers are in contact with ETs - - and given information to increase understanding and awareness - - - along with providing thought patterns for technical advancement.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by Rudolph_X

Could you get Milton to describe the actual architecture of our universe in a way that would help us to better visualize this illusory interaction between space and time in a more precise manner?


If you look at your desk it seems like a solid surface to you---yet there is nothing solid about it, the human mind sees solid---the Milton mind sees a variation of energy---and he can play it like a piano----ultimately even what we perceive as energy---is not even that---we have entered into the freaky zone----mind over matter stuff, the physical universe is missing a lot of matter for it to make any sense to our scientists---our great minds.

But does it really matter ---lol----you knew that was coming didn’t you?

Every galaxy in the universe is like a synapse connecting to other galaxies and dimensions---the universe is a huge schizophrenic brain---yet it remains perfect in every way---it is us at these low levels that are out of sync


Hello Sleeper.

Yeah, I heard about the so called 'missing matter'. So, just as I suspected, the universe, as we perceive it, is not playing with a full deck?


Thanks again!

[edit on 2/4/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Annee
Tag On to Real Truth

Why does a person allow themselves to be controlled? I do believe it is something you allow.



Sleeper I think Annee needs to know about the contracts we all make. I think many people don't remember these or don't want to remember them.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Rudolph_X
Hello Annee.


Earlier I read some other poster trying to make fun of Sci-Fi fans. Here's an interesting quote about Sci-Fi that I like.

From the Introduction of "Battlefield Earth" by L. Ron Hubbard:


Science fiction does not come after the fact of a scientific discovery or development. It is the herald of possibility. It is the plea that someone should work on the future. Yet it is not prophecy. It is the dream that precedes the dawn when the inventor or scientist awakens and goes to his books or his lab saying, "I wonder whether I could make that dream come true in the world of real science." L. Ron Hubbard



Oh Yeah! Rudolph - - - much of what we have today was first introduced by the imagination of Sci Fi storytellers.

But - was it just their imagination? Or was it through communications with advanced beings?

I absolutely believe some Sci Fi storytellers are in contact with ETs - - and given information to increase understanding and awareness - - - along with providing thought patterns for technical advancement.


Well, we've all heard of instances where 'mind readers' were able to look into the thoughts of others. If humans with psychic abilities can read the minds of other humans, why then shouldn't they also be able to read the minds of ET aliens? Or, maybe its the ET aliens who are the psychic ones and are broadcasting some of their 'advanced' ideas, and some 'sensitive' humans are able to pick up on these? Who knows?

The blog says:


Milton is short about three feet tall, bulbous head, small holes for ears, large dark eyes small nose and mouth. His skin color is a shade of blue with white iridescent splotches, there is a glow to him.

Milton only speaks telepathically and receives Mike's words directly from Mike's mind, telepathically---even though Mike speaks through his vocal cords and mouth.

Because the mind is faster than the mouth Milton knows what Mike is about to say before he says it.



[edit on 2/4/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth

Originally posted by Annee
Tag On to Real Truth

Why does a person allow themselves to be controlled? I do believe it is something you allow.



Sleeper I think Annee needs to know about the contracts we all make. I think many people don't remember these or don't want to remember them.


LOL
- - actually I meant Humans being controlled by other Humans. Religiosity for example.

I am already a firm believer Earth is an assigned "level" of experience and learning. I look at the ancient tribes living in the Amazon jungle. From my perspective - - they may actually be at a higher level then so-called civilized man.



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 03:21 PM
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Hello Sleeper.

I know this might not seem important, but why do I get the impression that Milton, in ET form, is always stark naked? Reading the blog I was struck by the fact that you didn't go into describing the clothing worn by ET and the others as much as I would have liked. (Although, you did mention a space suit and helmet Mike put on before he was tossed out into space.) The apparel industry, and the costume depts., aren't going to like that. They like to be able to make some kind of trendy fashion statement when making a movie, or whatever. Maybe you could add some flashy futuristic clothes to the scenes? (Small details like the Extractors wearing Victoria's Secret's line of lingerie... ,etc.) Who knows? You might even start a fashion fad of sorts?

I know that it sounds like crass commercialism, but you could add some extra dialog to the ET cafe scene, where Milton could ask Mike if he wanted a Pepsi or a Coke? Did you purposely avoid crass commercialism in your blog? Like not saying anything about a Nike label on the jogging suit, etc. Or does all that stuff get added in, by some Hollywood ad man, later after the script gets picked up, before production begins?

Wait a minute. Now I remember. When Mike was watching the movie in Milton's ship... the blog says:

"At her apartment she offers Mike a drink, Mike accepts, she makes him a bourbon and coke."

Sorry Pepsi. Coke wins out again.

OK. Here is a test. What brand was the bourbon?

Oh, and what about this:

"They leave the mall together and end up taking her car---a ruby red Porsche 911 Carrera. Mike pinches himself to make sure he is not dreaming."

A ruby red Porche 911 Carrera Turbo? Now you got me dreaming.


[edit on 2/4/2007 by Rudolph_X]



posted on Feb, 4 2007 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by sleeper



If you look at your desk it seems like a solid surface to you---yet there is nothing solid about it, the human mind sees solid---the Milton mind sees a variation of energy---and he can play it like a piano----ultimately even what we perceive as energy---is not even that---we have entered into the freaky zone----mind over matter stuff, the physical universe is missing a lot of matter for it to make any sense to our scientists---our great minds.

But does it really matter ---lol----you knew that was coming didn’t you?

Every galaxy in the universe is like a synapse connecting to other galaxies and dimensions---the universe is a huge schizophrenic brain---yet it remains perfect in every way---it is us at these low levels that are out of sync


This is great. Atomic spin/vibration/cohesiveness = perception on certain levels, but perception is just illusionary to limited processing functionality/ability. This would explain cases where experiencers see a being/craft materialize or dematerialize or diffuse through seemingly solid(lol) objects. I do feel that our current understanding of reality is at the infancy stage, perhaps less.




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