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Originally posted by lost_shaman
BTW, here is a Picture from Nov. 7th 2006 of the Chicago Skyline that shows the Cloud layer we are discussing. (Janet S. Reed photographer.)
blogs.trb.com...
Originally posted by violet
The sketch on that video link I posted a couple of posts back, is really crappy ! Any old "Oval" is drawn, that has no detail and lop-sided and the witness says how great the sketch is. That kind of threw me off and makes me more skeptical of the story.
How was it oval shaped? In it's diameter? Or the view on looking at it straight on, top to bottom? Spherical was used to describe the shape also, but that would be a circle slightly less rounded and not really oval. Then they say it punched a round hole into the clouds, that was the exact shape and size of it, like a cookie-cutter effect. Just wondering....
[edit on 7-1-2007 by violet]
Originally posted by Palasheea
I'm just saying that most likely this photo was taken during the early morning hours because this is how it looks off my balcony too during those days with an overcast. It's really more fog than anything else and it's just an extension of the fog that's already over the lake at that time in the morning.
And it goes without saying that the fog clears up fairly rapidly after the sun breaks where by 9am it's usually gone.
But you would be amazed how much less cloudy and foggy it is once you drive a mile away from the lake on mornings when it's like that.
O'Hare is 20 miles NW of downtown Chicago and I'm absolutely sure that the visibility shown in photograph you are showing is no way indicative of how it looked at the O'Hare airport at the time when that UFO sighting occured for reasons I mentioned above -- it's already a good distance from the lake (Lake Michigan) as it is... and it was 4:30 PM when that sighting occurred.
A man in Aurora said he came home from work on the same day as the O'Hare sighting, looked skyward in his back yard and spied a shiny round object hovering between two masses of clouds. And then it disappeared.
"I sat on a plane at the Port Columbus, Ohio, airport for at least an hour on the afternoon of Nov. 7. This flight was scheduled to arrive at O'Hare at 4:30 p.m. (the same time as the UFO sighting) The flight was further delayed for about another hour and circled the airport waiting to land. The pilot was not able to provide us with a reason for the delays. My daughter said when she arrived at the airport to pick me up around 4:30 that there were very many military personnel at the airport."
Originally posted by lost_shaman
Originally posted by Palasheea
I'm just saying that most likely this photo was taken during the early morning hours because this is how it looks off my balcony too during those days with an overcast. It's really more fog than anything else and it's just an extension of the fog that's already over the lake at that time in the morning.
And it goes without saying that the fog clears up fairly rapidly after the sun breaks where by 9am it's usually gone.
But you would be amazed how much less cloudy and foggy it is once you drive a mile away from the lake on mornings when it's like that.
O'Hare is 20 miles NW of downtown Chicago and I'm absolutely sure that the visibility shown in photograph you are showing is no way indicative of how it looked at the O'Hare airport at the time when that UFO sighting occured for reasons I mentioned above -- it's already a good distance from the lake (Lake Michigan) as it is... and it was 4:30 PM when that sighting occurred.
Hey Palasheea,
We know the ceiling on Nov. 7th, 2006 was very low all day , 2,100 ft being the highest level reported all day. At 4:30 pm the ceiling was said to be at 1,900 ft.
The Photo shown shows this low overcast layer.
Here is more information about the weather on that day.
Hey Palasheea,
We know the ceiling on Nov. 7th, 2006 was very low all day , 2,100 ft being the highest level reported all day. At 4:30 pm the ceiling was said to be at 1,900 ft.
The Photo shown shows this low overcast layer.
Originally posted by Sr Wing Commander
That doesn't seem right. The sears tower only goes to about 1200 ft (I think). If the ceilling is at 1900, then the overcast layer should be ABOVE the skyscrapers, not the skyscrapers emerging from the ceiling.
Admittedly, those big thoughts were not on my mind when the director of a UFO-watching group first called to offer an exclusive Chicago angle on what might be the biggest story of all humankind--a visit by an alien spaceship.
No, ET had not phoned home. But, said Peter Davenport of the National UFO Reporting Center, this was "an excellent, stunning case involving a genuine UFO from some other part of our galaxy or our universe."
It would be nice if physical evidence existed to substantiate the claims made at O'Hare on Nov. 7. Airport surveillance cameras are trained on the airfield, not the heavens, and FAA radar has so far turned up nothing unusual.
How is it that someone smuggled a camera cell phone into a Baghdad execution chamber to chronicle the hanging of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein last month, but no one among the thousands of airport workers and travelers at O'Hare snapped a picture for the cosmic family photo album?
The answer, along with an explanation about how the universe works, remains a mystery. We earthlings possess inquisitive minds, but we are, after all, only human.
Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
By Jon Hilkevitch
the Tribune's transportation reporter
Published January 7, 2007
Admittedly, those big thoughts were not on my mind when the director of a UFO-watching group first called to offer an exclusive Chicago angle on what might be the biggest story of all humankind--a visit by an alien spaceship.
No, ET had not phoned home. But, said Peter Davenport of the National UFO Reporting Center, this was "an excellent, stunning case involving a genuine UFO from some other part of our galaxy or our universe."
Umm... is it just me or is that a bit premature?
www.nuforc.org...
Moreover, it is unclear why Mr. Hilkevitch responds to the question by saying, "...they ((i.e. Peter Davenport, Director of the National UFO Reporting Center)) kept wanting me to say this was a visit from some other world and further proof that, uh, we, on this planet are visited regularly by other beings..." To set the record straight on this point, no such representation was made to Mr. Hilkevitch. His claim we consider to be a misrepresentation of the facts regarding our role in the case. We did nothing more than contact the Chicago Tribune in mid-December to apprise that newspaper of the sighting, and to provide Mr. Hilkevitch with details of the case, to include our subjective view of the veracity of the reports, and the apparent credibility of the witnesses. In the final analysis, once we were satisfied that the Chicago Tribune was interested in following up on the case, we contacted eyewitnesses, to request that they contact Mr. Hilkevitch directly, if they were willing to do so.
Originally posted by lost_shaman
Again to be fair, here is what is posted on NUFORC's site , or Davenport's side of the story.
DECEMBER 15, 2006 UPDATE: NUFORC has an unconfirmed report from a journalist investigating the O'Hare Airport incident of Nov. 7 (see full details lower on page) that the FAA and the airline involved have declared that the incident did not occur. We strongly suspect a cover-up may be starting to form.
Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
I could be wrong but I assume a reporter wouldn't put something in quotes unless they had some way to back it up.
Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
Besides, this statement alone by Davenport which is also from his web site suggests an irrational bias IMO...
DECEMBER 15, 2006 UPDATE: NUFORC has an unconfirmed report from a journalist investigating the O'Hare Airport incident of Nov. 7 (see full details lower on page) that the FAA and the airline involved have declared that the incident did not occur. We strongly suspect a cover-up may be starting to form.
Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
In my book that isn't the way to win friends and influence people. I mean think about it… if you’re a witness and a team player employed by United or the FAA and you’re not exactly sure what you saw, would you want to come forward now and possibly inadvertently advance this guy’s agenda and bite the hand that feeds you?
Originally posted by lost_shaman
I've seen a UFO , personally faced the dilemma of reporting the UFO or not , and your idea that these people came forward to further Davenport's "agenda" offends me!
In fact should anyone attempt to report a UFO in the U.S. to the Air Force they would be referred to NUFORC!
Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
I'm sorry if there's been a misunderstanding and I failed to make my point clear but I was referring to those dozen or so other witnesses who reportedly may have also seen it and HAVE NOT come forward (gone on record) and a possible reason why.
Originally posted by Saviour Of The Real
Is it possible the FAA didn’t see any reason to be overly concerned about it when it happened?
Are their valid business reasons for United encouraging their employees not to talk about it?
Originally posted by lost_shaman
Also I can speak from personal experience that when you do "see a UFO" , at least my first thought was "OMG! This really IS the BIGGEST SECRET ON EARTH!!!"
In other words a true UFO "witness" shouldn't take too long to figure out that the Media , and just about everything they've ever heard about "UFOs" , is full of "HOT AIR" so to speak.
Originally posted by Cybernative
Originally posted by Order Out Of Chaos
It's not an ET craft.
It's a Russian advanced technology spy probe.
All, well all military developed countries, have access to this same technology, which is why this happens all over the world.It's just a new, secret, form of satellite spying.The cold-war never ended, it just wen't high-tech.
OMG not again...OLD subject !!!
[edit on 5-1-2007 by Cybernative]