Originally posted by takeastepback
Also John, another characted in this Dulce fiasco was Thomas Castillo, he is the one who supposedly sneaked out the video of the dulce labs and
some pictures. Do you beleive that Castillo was legit? ATSer,
Thanks for the post Take.Here is a recap of the Dulce story as I remember it:
I was the originator of the so-called Dulce papers.
The story starts in Crestone Colorado where a group of UFO researchers met to discuss the issues of the UFO field. I believe the date was in September
of 1987. Someone had donated a condo with several rooms where we all stayed for about 3 days.
Attending were Linda Moulton Howe, Tom Adams, maybe Chris Lambright and a few others whose names I have forgotten.
Tom Adams put out a little newspaper from his home in Texas called Stigmata and it covered mostly cattle mutilations.
Tom handed me a letter he was received from a person is Las Vegas who I shall refer to as MR. X. The letter told about an intriguing facility north of
Los Alamos in a little town called Dulce. It told about a joint US/alien facility that was built deep underground that had “tiled hallways that went
Tom told me he didn’t have time to respond to this letter and since I lived in Las Vegas would I check it out. I agreed and he gave me the letter. I
thought I still had that letter but it is not in the Dulce file that I am working with tonight.
When I got back to Vegas a week or so later I called MR. X and arranged a meeting. Mr. X told me about a security guard who was a close friend of his
who worked at an underground facility called Dulce and due to many unspeakable things that he has witnessed escaped with 25 black and white photos, a
6 minutes security video tape of one of the hallways and several hundred papers of a technical nature that were going on in the facility.
Mr. X told me that Thomas Costello, the security guard, had told him an incident that occurred in 1979 where 44 scientists had been killed along with
22 Delta Force personnel.
This is what has become know as the ‘Dulce Wars’ but it wasn’t a war. According to Costello and later backed up by Bob Lazar who read about the
incident in a briefing at S-4, a Gray alien being was giving instruction of some type to 44 scientists at Dulce.
Apparently a security guard with Delta Force, who helped patrol and provide security for the Dulce base, entered the room with a side arm of some
type. It was known by all Dulce personnel that no firearms of any kind where allowed anywhere near the Grays. Whatever the reason for the security
guards mistake, the Gray immediately killed him and the 44 scientists. Seeing the disaster taking place on the security cameras, other Delta Force
personnel came for revenge but the alien killed them also.
I met many times with Mr. X discussing Dulce and some weird things happened that made me think that someone was monitoring these meetings.
During one of the meetings Mr. X told me that Costello had given him one of 5 or 6 sets of the ‘papers’ which included the photos, the video tape
and the technical date.
After verifying that the photos, papers and video tape where in the container, the container was sealed in a water proof box which was then itself
sealed with some type of plastic covering. Costello told Mr. X at the time of the transfer that his wife and children had disappeared and that he was
on the run. Costello told Mr. X to bury the box in a safe location and that he would contact him every 4 to 6 months. If he should miss two contacts
in a row it meant that he was dead or that he had been taken back to Dulce.
Dulce employed special ‘bounty hunters’ for just this type of incident.
Mr. X buried the box in Dolan Springs, Arizona, about an hours drive south of Las Vegas high up in the mountains. Mr. X and I drove to Dolan Springs
once were he pointed out the approximate location of the buried box.
Several years went by and Mr. X told 2 other persons about the box and its location.
Sometime in the middle 1990’s I forget exactly when, Thomas Costello had missed two consecutive contacts and it was over a year since MR. X had
heard from him. He waited another 6 months and then began a search to recover the box.
I never went on the search but 2 friends of mine did. They made 4 or 5 (maybe more) expeditions to where Mr. X had remembered hiding the box but never
found it. A great deal of effort went into the search but no trace of the box was ever found.
During one of our Meetings Mr. X produced 8 pencil drawings and one had written page (in pencil) of data. The 8 pencil drawings were views from the 25
photographs that Costello had taken from Dulce. The hand written page was information that Costello had given him. He asked if I would copy and
distribute the information. I agreed.
I believe that the date I distributed the Dulce papers was in 1988 sometime. I think around March.
Since the pencil drawings were too faint to duplicate I copied them in black ink. I then typed up a one page letter. The first paragraph is the
circumstances under which I received the Dulce papers. The second paragraph contains what is written in pencil regarding what Mr. X knew from Costello
and the information Costello had given him.
The typewriter I used was unique as it was an IBM Executive with proportional spacing. I bought it in 1966 when I worked for the Flying Tiger Line and
was President of their wholly owned subsidiary Airjet Charters and always used it. I mention this only because it proves that I wrote and distributed
the original Dulce Papers.
I took the 8 pages of black ink drawings and one typewritten page and sent copies to several of my friends.
The ‘Dulce’ papers interested many and were copied and recopied and over the years the story has been told and retold with many errors creeping
into the retelling.
You may see many video tapes of the interior of Dulce but I can assure you they are all fabricated. Some came from a Japanese production on Dulce,
some came from other places. But no video tape has ever gotten out of Dulce period.
Over the years I have obtained at least 2 confirmations that the Dulce base exists.
When Bob Lazar was briefed about the incident at S-4 the document he was reading said the incident happened at Area 51, not Dulce. I have no
explanation for the discrepancy except possibly Lazar’s clearance had maybe not reached the level where he could know about Dulce. But that is
The other person who confirmed Dulce was a government insider, the only true government insider I ever met who told me that Dulce was real, he had
been there but that he knew is as Section D.
I have had one or two other confirmations but I can’t remember who told me or when.
Of course, all of this sounds like a science fiction story but I am telling you the story exactly as it happened. I may have made a few errors in
recalling the exact details because it’s been 20 years since it happened.
Many say I am the product of disinformation. That may be true. But if it is disinformation someone went to an awful lot of trouble and led me on a
long and windy path. They would have had to continue this disinformation for 10 years or more. And I agree that that is indeed possible.
But for my part, I don’t believe it was disinformation. I believe the Dulce facility is real and stories come my way every once in a while to
confirm its existence.
The only other person to relate correctly the Dulce story is Branton (see the Branton Files). If you find a discrepancy between my story and his I
will be happy to review it and give you my opinion.
There are 3 other persons (other than Branton) who are intimately familiar with the Dulce story and I am deliberately leaving their names out of this
post. You know who you are and if you want to identify yourselves or if I can reveal your names you know my email. Both know way, way, way more than I
do about Dulce.
Below I have posted the 8 original pencil drawings that Mr. X gave to me which he drew from the original photographs that Costello gave to him.
Below that I will post the exact duplicates of the one typewritten page that I made and the 8 pen and black ink drawings that I traced from the