Depleted Uranium video on google is Shocking

Ask yourselves why Hiroshima and Nagasaki are populated today.

Have '10 Billion years' passed since those cities were nuked?

Dumb thread.

Originally posted by Dbriefed
Ask yourselves why Hiroshima and Nagasaki are populated today.

Have '10 Billion years' passed since those cities were nuked?

Dumb thread.

They say we learn something new everyday so to put it bluntly, totally different uses of uranium with totally different results.


Read this:
www.rerf.or.jp...

The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs exploded at altitudes of 500 to 600 meters, then formed huge fireballs that rose with the ascending air currents. About 10% of the nuclear material in the bombs underwent fission; the remaining 90% rose in the atmosphere with the fireball. Subsequently, the material cooled down and some of it started to fall with rain (black rain) in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki areas, but probably most of the remaining uranium or plutonium was dispersed widely in the atmosphere. Because of the wind, the rain did not fall directly on the hypocenters but rather in the northwest region (Koi, Takasu area) of Hiroshima and the eastern region (Nishiyama area) of Nagasaki. As for contamination with plutonium, early measurements in Nagasaki showed levels of radioactivity far below the levels of radioactivity from cesium-137, which is one of the fission products of uranium or plutonium and contributed most to radiation from fallout. Attempts to measure uranium in Hiroshima were difficult to interpret due to low levels of radioactivity. Nowadays, the radioactivity is so miniscule that it is difficult to distinguish from trace amounts (including plutonium) of radioactivity caused by worldwide fallout from atmospheric (as opposed to underground) atomic-bomb tests that were conducted around the world in past decades, particularly in the 1950's and 1960's.

In Iraq, they are exploding uranium into minute pieces that kids play around, people breath in and which gets into food and water. There's so many ways that you can get sick from DU dust, depending on how it gets into your system, that it's really hard to pin down as a single cause but the obvious leap in diseases from radiation are obvious - plus there's other issues in Iraq since the war like burning oil fields and ruined treatment systems which add to the odds.

2 short wars have done a lot of long term damage.

Originally posted by TheShroudOfMemphis

Originally posted by Dbriefed
Ask yourselves why Hiroshima and Nagasaki are populated today.

Have '10 Billion years' passed since those cities were nuked?

Dumb thread.

They say we learn something new everyday so to put it bluntly, totally different uses of uranium with totally different results.


Read this:
www.rerf.or.jp...

The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs exploded at altitudes of 500 to 600 meters, then formed huge fireballs that rose with the ascending air currents. About 10% of the nuclear material in the bombs underwent fission; the remaining 90% rose in the atmosphere with the fireball. Subsequently, the material cooled down and some of it started to fall with rain (black rain) in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki areas, but probably most of the remaining uranium or plutonium was dispersed widely in the atmosphere. Because of the wind, the rain did not fall directly on the hypocenters but rather in the northwest region (Koi, Takasu area) of Hiroshima and the eastern region (Nishiyama area) of Nagasaki. As for contamination with plutonium, early measurements in Nagasaki showed levels of radioactivity far below the levels of radioactivity from cesium-137, which is one of the fission products of uranium or plutonium and contributed most to radiation from fallout. Attempts to measure uranium in Hiroshima were difficult to interpret due to low levels of radioactivity. Nowadays, the radioactivity is so miniscule that it is difficult to distinguish from trace amounts (including plutonium) of radioactivity caused by worldwide fallout from atmospheric (as opposed to underground) atomic-bomb tests that were conducted around the world in past decades, particularly in the 1950's and 1960's.

In Iraq, they are exploding uranium into minute pieces that kids play around, people breath in and which gets into food and water. There's so many ways that you can get sick from DU dust, depending on how it gets into your system, that it's really hard to pin down as a single cause but the obvious leap in diseases from radiation are obvious - plus there's other issues in Iraq since the war like burning oil fields and ruined treatment systems which add to the odds.

2 short wars have done a lot of long term damage.

You have made a valid point...DU upon impact becomes a "dust" and aerosolizes for a brief time. What happens when you eat, breath or drink lead? What happens when you breath in Mercury vapors? You go retarded, you get messed up...why?

Is it because they are "radioactive"?

NO

DU is not radioactive, DU armor actually makes it so that Soldiers in the M1A2 Tanks receive less radiation than is normal!

DU is a Heavy Metal and that is the cause of any problems by DU.

DU shrapnel has had no negative effects on the afflicted, because a shrapnel is not going to enter the blood-stream.

But a pulverized grain of DU will, and in your blood-stream heavy metals accumulate and cause health problems.

It also is not mutating babies, that's a crock of crap I could take a picture of an aborted fetus and claim it is damaged by DU all day but it doesn't make it true...

You harm a child more by drinking alcohol or breathing in 2nd hand smoke than you do by kicking a soccer-ball through a former DU battlefield.

Originally posted by Stratrf_Rus
DU is not radioactive, DU armor actually makes it so that Soldiers in the M1A2 Tanks receive less radiation than is normal!

Yah DU armour is great on a conventioanl battlefield. However, if a neutron warhed is detonated the fast neutrons released actually irradiate the DU plates in teh amrour of M1 tanks, making them more radioactive than those tanks which don't hvae DU.

Just an interesting aside.

Originally posted by mad scientist

Originally posted by Stratrf_Rus
DU is not radioactive, DU armor actually makes it so that Soldiers in the M1A2 Tanks receive less radiation than is normal!

Yah DU armour is great on a conventioanl battlefield. However, if a neutron warhed is detonated the fast neutrons released actually irradiate the DU plates in teh amrour of M1 tanks, making them more radioactive than those tanks which don't hvae DU.

Just an interesting aside.

Because we all know some 3rd worlder is going to blast-off a bunch of Neutrons :-P

Originally posted by Derek Trance
I just checked out that second link Souljah, the tank looks like it could have been hit by anything as there is no text and just a picture.

Well, Ofcurse it is.

Is that Why they are Measuring the Radioactive Level with Geiger Counter?

Or would they Inspect just about every Destroyed Tank - just because they have nothing better to do?

Or they used some kind of new weapon on it and were checking the results. That's an ancient tank in that picture. There hasn't been a tank with a short barrel gun like that made in ages. This could be any kind of weapons test, without more information there's no way to say conclusively that it's DU related.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Or they used some kind of new weapon on it and were checking the results. That's an ancient tank in that picture. There hasn't been a tank with a short barrel gun like that made in ages. This could be any kind of weapons test, without more information there's no way to say conclusively that it's DU related.

It's a Serbian tank fron Kosovo conflict, when Air Foces dropped tons of Depleted Uranium. I think these two guys are from the Germen Bio-Chemical Team, checking the Radiation levels of the penetrated Tank.

Taken from this Source.

First of all, you could easily take a picture of a tank and put it in there and say that's what it was.

Seondly, did you actually READ the UN report, or did you just read all the American bashing pages that claim how dangerous DU is? The preliminary report by the UN survey teams showed that background levels were barely above, or even AT background levels in the Kosovo region after the US attacks. The environmental damage in the region was caused by CHEMICAL RELEASES from plants. They couldn't even tell if DU had been used in the area. Now if DU was so horrible, don't you think they would have been able to tell if it was used, other than just what was published?

NAIROBI/STOCKHOLM, 14 September, 1999
- In its report released today, the Joint UNEP/UNCHS (Habitat) Balkans Task Force (BTF) concludes that the Kosovo conflict did not cause an environmental catastrophe affecting the Balkans region as a whole, but that pollution detected at four environmental "hot spots" (Pancevo, Kragujevac, Novi Sad and Bor), is serious and poses a threat to human health. At these sites, all in Serbia, immediate clean-up action, which should be seen as a part of humanitarian assistance to the region, is called for.

The BTF report, "The Kosovo Conflict - Consequences for the Environment and Human Settlements," also concludes that much of the pollution identified pre-dates the conflict and that there is widespread evidence of long-term deficiencies in the treatment of hazardous waste. It also concludes that in Kosovo the human settlement problem is not just about reconstructing houses but a question of establishing administrative procedures that will give people security of tenure.

Since very little information was available on the actual use of DU in the Kosovo conflict, the expert BTF "desk assessment group" was forced to rely on available published information. Given these circumstances and taking a precautionary approach to the issue, the BTF report recommends that at places where contamination has been confirmed, measures should be taken to prevent access. And, the local authorities and people concerned should be informed of the possible risks and appropriate precautionary measures.

The report states, however, that its assumptions have not been verified and the results are subject to some uncertainty. It stresses that immediate action is necessary to obtain information from NATO confirming if, how and where, DU was used during the conflict. This is a prerequisite for verifying initial risk assessments, making necessary measurements, and taking precautionary actions. The report recommends that a thorough review of the effects on health of medium and long-term exposure to DU should be undertaken under the auspices of the WHO.

www.grida.no...

Low levels of radiation were detected in the immediate vicinity of the points of impact, and mild contamination from DU dust was measured near the targets. There was also some evidence from bio-indicators of airborne DU contamination near targeted sites.

No widespread contamination

No widespread ground contamination was found in the investigated areas. Therefore, the corresponding radiological and chemical risks are insignificant. There were a great number of contamination points in the investigated areas, but there is no significant risk related to these points in terms of possible contamination of air or plants.

Precaution recommended

It is highly likely that penetrators are still lying on the ground surface. Although the radiological and chemical risks of touching a penetrator are insignificant, if one was put into a pocket or somewhere else close to the human body, there would be external beta radiation of the skin, leading to quite high local radiation doses after some WEEKS of continuous exposure. Skin burns from radiation are unlikely.

home.tiscalinet.ch...

Environmental mobility and fate of DU particles

A preliminary analysis of the beta-activity of a sample of dust taken from a car park near the destroyed VJ barracks in Gjakove showed the presence of 4500Bq/kg of beta- activity almost certainly due to the presence of Uranium. The normal background levels of Uranium in soil are between 15 and 100Bq/kg. This finding provided evidence that Uranium dust remains in the environment for more than 18 months and is available for inhalation. The highest radiation count rate over the dust was 25 counts per second, which may be compared with the general count rate in Kosovo remote from sites where there may have been military activity of 3.0 to 6.5 cps or occasionally more and control regions of 2.7 to 3.1 cps.

So, Higher Levels of Uranium presence were found - proving that the Radioactive dust remains in the enviroment for more then 18 months.

BBC - Radiation from DU 'could act rapidly'

Many of those who argue that depleted uranium (DU) cannot be a serious health risk say radiation takes a long time to produce cancers.

They say the reports from veterans of the wars in Bosnia and Kosovo, complaining of leukaemia and other cancers, are inconsistent with what we know of the time it takes for radiation to cause damage.

And they believe that even the reports from Gulf veterans and Iraqi civilians of cancers which have developed since the 1991 war suggest an improbably rapid development of the disease.

But two senior scientists have told BBC News Online they believe it may be a serious mistake to rule DU out of the equation.

Both remain open-minded on whether DU actually does damage health, but both believe its effects are poorly understood. Neither was prepared to be named.

And that's the Problem with DU - it is NOT yet Understood, for not a long time has passed to see te real threat of it on Human Body. One thing is for certain - do you think that the Military would TELL YOU about the Serious risks, that DU can do on a Human body, when they have the PERFECT material for ammunition, and ofcourse PLENTY of it?

Its Cheap - its Effective - who CARES if it slowly kills some Poor People that were bombed a decade ago! Who cares about some Balkanian countries, and some Terrorists who live in Afganistan and Iraq!

That's how the military thinks.


Also a VERY Educative Flash Video about Depleted Uranium. If you have a Bad Stomach, I suggest you skip watching it.

[edit on 25/1/06 by Souljah]

Originally posted by Vekar
Typical answers from typical people on the whole, I have heard them a million times and think them as bull. None the less DU is a problem caused DIRECTLY by the US invasions, no one else. The deformities ALL coincide with the effects on troops who used DU and therefor the link is made showing that is DU that is causing these problems. No point in fighting gunho bushers when they will never change people, and the same goes to the gung ho bushers who fight people who do not support him. No point in it at all.

I''m getting real sick of showing evidence for my arguments, only to be told im stupid and wrong by soem kid without any evidence to back it up. Unless you have evidence sir, please stop posting.

it is NOT yet Understood

Yet, here you are telling evryone they are wrong with zero evidence to back itup. Other than an article that says two unnamed guys said it was dangerous.

[edit on 25-1-2006 by Dronetek]

This situation illustrates a divine example of how, even alert and educated ATS'ers can be swayed into a fervor over pictures that are meant to evoke these most powerful of emotions... but dont come from reality.

It is very simple propaganda tactic

take Santa Clause for example.
show people several pictures of deformed babies, and say "this is caused by the magic dust that he uses to fly... and Santa knows it causes defects, and still continues to fly"

then lets say that there is a scientific possibility that the magic dust could cause minor problems under very specific rare conditions...
but not the defects that the anti Santa activists are using as examples, those are caused by fetal alchohol syndrome, and other common causes, but are used for the emotions they evoke.

But the horrid tale that these pictures tell are spoke within the veiwers mind not in reality

here we see the effect that those internal tales have caused within the hearts and these posts from very concerned and well meaning people.

And if the worst worries regarding DU were real, then these personal versions of the truth become real also... and persist.

otherwise the honest debate of these internal tales of fear become softened by truth, and are reconciled with the reality of the true danger...

at least that is what i hope happens.

there is danger, but find the truth in between... dont join the drumbeat of fanatical activists that would lie to further thier cause... or with a government report touting a very self serving version of the truth.

Haha that ladies comment that the half life of the DU is 4 billion years just proves she is full of crap. If it has such a long half life it is hardly dangerous. The radiation from my cell phone is probably worse. Sure getting particled of any heavy metal in your system is bad. Lead and mercury do the same. They show all these terrible baby pictures to make it look like its rampant. Anyone thats taken a class on genetic anomolies/birth problems will have seen just as many sad photos. It happens everywhere. You just have to be smarter than the propaganda.

I've played in old uranium deposits in southern Utah where uranium is mined. Been at least 10 years and I'm still fine. The radioactive danger is so small it's really not an issue. Guess why contries pay millions to try to get just an ounce of weapons grade uranium? The dangerous low isotope version is extremely rare.

[edit on 26-1-2006 by Forlon]

Originally posted by GameSetMatch
Hello Iamian,

Thank you for posting this TELLYOURMATES. Good video.

Unfortunately it dosnt stop there... Here is another video just as importaint. Fallujah - The Hidden Massacre
**WARNING no less GRAPHIC.

I have been contemplating my response; For starters I thought the video was well done. Now do I believe 100% of everything I saw in it? The answer is NO. Over all the video made YOU think. Same with the Fallujah video...

The graphic images yet disturbing do not sway my judgment. If anyone thinks that by my seeming less innocence post was me completely and totally agreeing with the content of the videos. Then I must ask you where did you get that idea from my original post? --BTW Not attacking anyone here.. Finally all I wanted to do is share with others a video I saw that was similar in topic nature. Take it at what it is worth please, nothing more.

Originally posted by TELLYOURMATES
only a matter of time b4 they make google remove these type of programes

any1 know how to save a flash movie?

Get a "thumb drive" save it there and then get and external drive for your computer and unplug it when you are done shutting down for the night.
That is what I have been doing that past couple of years with videos like the on above and UFO information.

What about the Service Members getting sick from it?! I am one.. I have all the symptoms, every single one, and yet have yet to obtain a diagnosis. No one seems to care or know anything about it. Funny thing is; it has been going on in the U.S. around all our own little factories.. Like "Honeywell" and the other ones in Florida, Texas, etc!
Uranium poisioning is known to cause many diseases/illnesses, yet they won't admit to it. Why not fix the problem? I have this # in my system, now WTF can I do to fix it??? All my research shows and leads me to the assumption 1) I have it and 2) I'm SOL
What can we do? What can I do?

I wrote a thread about this myself: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Its one of the truly most unbelievable thing imaginable. By the megatons they have exploded and polluted the middle east, and Yugoslavia with DU weaponry. They have poisoned it for 4.5 billion years, and the trade winds blow the nano dust over the world. It only took 7 days to reach England. While they get to become uninhabitable and the middle east wiped out to clear way for the pipeline to China, I guess, or whatever their ultimate evil agenda is, we will slowly but surely join in. And the used depleted uranium shells are being dumped in our prime fishing waters off the east coast of Canada, and west coast near the Island, and Seattle. I provided some links in my thread on this stuff.

[edit on 17-8-2008 by mystiq]