Originally posted by Boondock78
you have to understand that not everyone could leave. some of these people have no transportation, no money, they are not able to travel.
You can walk outta the sunken bowl that is topographical new orleans easily in five days.
where are they gonna go?
Out of the giant, already sinking city and away from the massive, wildly destructive hurricane the size of fance.
they took up shelter in their homes and rode out the storm. now they need to survive.
Everyone is being forced out of the city now, the city itself is being evacuated.
looting diapers, food, water, drink, and even arms i can understand.
Guns? No. that is why they've had to suspend
rescue operations, to stop the mobs looting
gun stores and armories.
They have
stopped resucing people from the natural disaster to try to fight the human rampage. These people are
not starving and dying and in need of
supplies, its been a few days, and the government is providing shelter, its not like the hurrican picked up the city and transplanted it to Oz.
And they have to fight to survive or something. The city is being evacuated, fema shelters have been set up, looting is illegal and completely
unecessary, and they shouldn't be in teh goddamned city anyway, let alone not have built up a stock of absolute necessities.
The kind that can't afford to leave
Everyone can afford to leave. Everyone can walk, get on public buses, hitch a ride, anything. I can understand taking food to survive, but if
my situation is that bad then I want the cops to pick me up and bring me to a shelter or holding facility, not be running around a sewage flooded city
having to decide whether or not to rush into a gun shop to steal a shot gun to protect myself from roving bands of looters. I'm not Snake
Plissken.
Unlike the ordinary people who were just made homeless, killed, bankrupted, and left to fend for themselves in the eye of the storm.
Precisely. Those people have nothing, some peopel managed to still have something, stores that survived the natural destruction. Now those stores
are being destroyed by human destruction. Needless human destruction.
But not for the wealthy to remove or secure their valuables?
So let me get this straigh, the middle class (these people aren't poor, some are, lots aren't) doesn't have to leave, and if their stuff gets
destroyed, they can take somone elses. But by virtue of having enough sense to get yourself and your family to safety, you have to forfeit your
property to the mobs that didn't leave, didn't prepare, and won't go to shelters?
Even emergency centers were evacuated by helicopter.
They are evacuating the city, they are not pointing people to the highways and saying 'walk'. They are moving people to shelters. They
were
resucing trapped people and moving them to shelters, they stopped that now to deal with rampaging looting mobs.
Your compassion
I make no claims at compassion.
poverty prevents choice. It's called an economic barrier.
These people are not below the poverty line.
In contaminated water?
Boil it and strain it and clean the diapers, at least try it before you break into a store and start stealing stuff, or you could've done the smart
thing and prepared.
Then, you presumably would blame her for making her children sick
Lets be clear, if
I was in new orleans, and I didn't leave for whatever the reason, and I had kids and I couldn't give them clean diapers
without breaking the law, I'd break the law. Lets also be clear,
these mobs are not made up of paupers scrambling for milk diapers water and
bread while the government does nothing. They are not suspending rescue operations because of mothers stealing powdered formula for thier
babies.
More black and white consistency, lacking in compassion and vision
Irrelevant.
Are you ready to threaten the entire nation with child appropriation for non-compliance?
I was being more of a smartass than anything else really. But honestly if she has no supplies for her kids, then she should be picked up and taken to
a shelter.
And that book/movie should be mandatory education for everyone living in these times
Jean Val Jean would've strangled the majority of these looters with his massive fists if he were mayor of new orleans. He stole bread, to feed his
dying and starving sister. No one is new orleans is starving. No one is eating tvs, jerseys or jewelry.
Can you explain to the citizens of New Orleans precisely how and why this situation is different?
I do not understand that question.
Can you explain why we arrest and incarcerate the little people, but not the rich and powerful?
International politics is power politics, domestic politics is legalistic. What court has jurisdiction over the rich meanies? Without a global
government, there is no global legal system, certainly nothing like what we find in the US.
As far as the other thread, I agree, the planning here was miserable, the people didn't leave the city, and the state and federal governments didn't
prepare for the disaster, yet again. Now what happens when people are moved into some of those so called 'concentration camps'? Is the government
being 'bad' by providing for their necessities while trying to cope with this disaster?
[edit on 1-9-2005 by Nygdan]
[edit on 1-9-2005 by Nygdan]
