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reply posted on 11-6-2005 @ 01:32 PM by Byrd
Originally posted by RR
Originally posted by Byrd
I suspected it would end that way. She was friendly and naive, and broke one of the prime rules of being in a different area... stay with your group.

I'm sad for her parents. What a horrible thing to have happen to your child.


Maybe you are naive, who in their right mind would just up and leave with a bunch of unknown locals?

Well, just about every teen I've ever known. You're with people from that particular area, they know some "cool places" and you trot off with them (without taking your friends, or telling folks) to see something neat like a haunted lighthouse.

Heck, lots of adults would do it, too. Friendly people sometimes trust too easily.

She was most likely looking for something and thought she'd found it but, unfortunately, she found a bunch of animals instead. And on top of that where were the so-called chaperones? I tell you where they were, they were sitting in the same bar she was, drinking just like she was and because of that they didn't see her leave with a bunch of animals who did EXACTLY what animals do. It's sad she got killed but it is probably more naive to think she was completely innocent in all of this...


I'm probably a bit more paranoid than most parents, and I've likely traveled more. When my daughter went off to DC on a school trip, I did sit down with her and warn her about staying with the group and that it was irresponsible to head off without telling folks where she was going and who she was with.

Of course, I made them do that at home, too.

It's simple safety. I realize that most people probably don't think of these things, but I can be terribly paranoid where my family (or people under my responsibility) are concerned.

Her poor parents. Imagine, having to identify your child's body (actually, I don't have to imagine that. One of my coworkers' sons drowned about 12 years ago and the poor parents were too overwhelmed to make the identification. I made the ID on their behalf since I knew the kid.)

We, as parents, need to teach our kids some common sense... like not going off with new people without telling friends or family who you're going with and when you'll be back. If the ones who lured her out and killed her had heard her telling everyone "I'm going with these guys and I'll be back by midnight," it might have been just enough to keep them from carrying out their attack.

And she might have gone and come back in perfect safety.


reply posted on 11-6-2005 @ 04:41 PM by RR
Originally posted by Ksnazdnzon
Wow, what creepy and faulty logic there.


Why? Because YOU say so?

Originally posted by Ksnazdnzon
The point is she was attacked, it's not her fault she was attacked because she was attacked.


But it WAS her decision to leave with them thereby laying the groundwork for something to happen.

Originally posted by Ksnazdnzon
Is it everybody who works in a store at night's fault when they are robbed because it's so dangerous to work in a store? Uh.. No.

Is it everybody who lives in a dangerous part of town's fault if they are shot in the street? Uh.. No.


Apples and oranges, you are refering to random acts of violence which doesn't apply here because SHE made the decision to leave with these "people", she wasn't abducted, she wasn't kidnapped out of her bed as she slept, SHE and SHE alone decided it was a good idea to go and do god knows what with people she didn't know and it got her killed.

Originally posted by Ksnazdnzon
Come on, don't give me that nonsense, the list goes on. Next you'll be saying everybody who works at the pentagon or the world trade center made a stupid mistake for working in such a terrorist target.


Again apples and oranges not to mention a rather odd way to insert your political drivel.

Originally posted by Ksnazdnzon
You need to re-evaluate your life man.


Huh? I need to re-evaluate my ENTIRE life because I don't share your opinion that this girl was completely innocent and was just a random victim of the evil of the world? Please...


reply posted on 11-6-2005 @ 10:16 PM by Ball of Fluff
I do feel sorry for her family. Very much so. I think, though, that they and the school made an incredible error in judgment allowing high school seniors- some surely under 18- to go to Aruba the party capital for the sr class trip. Very bad idea. 7 chaperones for 124 active vital kids. Bars. Alcohol.

The kids were doing what kids (and non kids, too) do in such circumstances. They were partying. Who wouldn't in a place like that? Celebrating the end of high school.

But the idiots who planned the trip in Aruba instead of Washington DC or something and the parents- I don't level "blame" at them- but yes, that was a huge huge mistake.

There's the story of Amy Bradley which also ended- well, it hasn't ended yet- very badly. And there've been other girls than Amy targetted and even taken away.

It's dicey.

This doesn't mean I don't think younger women should ever go to any tourist spot- it just means that it's very dicey and that it really isn't a place for a senior trip.

As for Natalee bringing it on herself through her errors in judgment- well- does anything really seem at age 18 the way it does at age 25 or 30 or so? Does anything really seem when one's drunk and partying the way it seems other times? No. Sure she ended up in a situation that was dangerous and got way out of control but she didn't ask to be hurt and killed.

I will also point out that sometimes people who are being extremely careful sometimes still have bad things happen to them.

I just wish she was with her family, alive, healthy and getting ready for college.


reply posted on 13-6-2005 @ 12:49 PM by amb1063
cnn now shows that the mom is saying

www.cnn.com...

"The mother of a missing Alabama teenager said Sunday that she believes three young men who were with her daughter the day of her disappearance know what happened to her."

not the word MISSING..........not MURDERED teen.

she has still not been officially classified as "dead"


angie


reply posted on 17-6-2005 @ 12:11 PM by skippytjc
More arrests:

www.cnn.com...


Im betting that one of them did admit to killing her, but for some reason the authorities dont want anybody to know yet. Thats a pretty hard thing to blunder up for a reporter.
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