Well, they killed her....

Natelie who?


Looks like Fox has dumped their pet project. They dumped Natelie for Katrina...

BIG NEWS that got lost in the Katrina wake:


Vandersloot flee's to Holland!!! Tell me that boy isnt as guilty as he can be....

Why would an innocent person flee? Don’t matter much anyways; if they want him he will be extradited.

Its like a peanut gallery down there...

What kind of extradition agreements do the Dutch have with the US?

I know there's one specifically in place for the transport of terrorists, but I'm not sure how it stands otherwise; most European countries are reluctant to extradite if the death penalty is a possibility (as most no longer have it themselves). Besides that though, many countries simply will not extradite one of their own citizens, regardless of the crime.

(does this even matter? If the crime was committed in Aruba, there's no US jurisdiction anyway, correct? And if that's the case, why would the Netherlands extradite someone from one part of their Kingdom, to another?)

This is ridiculous. He didn't flee to Holland. He went to Holland to study. College there starts this week. If anything he still has to maintain regular contact with the authorities there, and he can be detained again if necessary. He's not out of the hands of the authorities.

Originally posted by TheBandit795
This is ridiculous. He didn't flee to Holland. He went to Holland to study. College there starts this week.

Isn't it tragic how something so benign can be twisted into something so malignant? What on earth happened to the premise of being innocent before proven guilty? Or have we just decided he's guilty, without a trial, because the Media seems to think he is, too?



(Could you confirm the legalities of extradition for me, perchance?)

For somebody who is just "going to study" he sure was happy to be there...


I would think that being the center piece of a murder investigation would keep him close to home...But I guess things work differently down there in regards to this sort of thing.

Originally posted by skippytjc
For somebody who is just "going to study" he sure was happy to be there...

I would think that being the center piece of a murder investigation would keep him close to home...But I guess things work differently down there in regards to this sort of thing.

It's the same Kingdom, dude...it's not like he's gone to study in Australia.

More to the point though; how long has "being happy" been a crime?

Even if he is guilty, this doesn't negate the basic premise of innocent until proven guilty; it's unfair for you, me or anyone else to decide his culpability and worse, decide we know the motivation behind his actions.

(Weren't you happy to be at college, too?)

Originally posted by Tinkleflower work differently down there in regards to this sort of thing.

It's the same Kingdom, dude...

The same kingdom which he's not allowed to leave. He's not allowed to go to any country outside of the Dutch kingdom.

Originally posted by TheBandit795
The same kingdom which he's not allowed to leave. He's not allowed to go to any country outside of the Dutch kingdom.

(Psst...t'was skippy who said the bit about "things work differently down there")

But yeah, that was my point

I guess I'm just disturbed by the whole presumption of guilt thing, you know?

Originally posted by Tinkleflower
I guess I'm just disturbed by the whole presumption of guilt thing, you know?

Yeah I know what you mean. I presumed O.J. was guilty. You can imagine how foolish I felt in the end.

Peace

It doesn't mean you're right. You could be wrong, you know. Maybe you didn't think that that's a possibility.

And I'm not talking about OJ.

[edit on 9-9-2005 by TheBandit795]

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