The Coming World Religion

Originally posted by puneetsg

Some self introspection is i think the need of the hour for you all. Please tell me how many wars/genocides have been caused by these pagans/new age thinkers?

Yeah,that's what I would like to know as well. These people who claim to follow "true" religions, whether they be Muslim or Christian, are always quick, out of fear in my opinion, to criticize other belief systems. However, what I'd like to know is, what historical evidence do they have of new age believers ever starting a war. When I say historical evidence, I am not talking about these "new age/occult conpiracy" theories. I am talking about real,verifiable evidence that they even engaged, much less started a war. I suspect they will be hard pressed to find such info. I can certainly find much evidence of wars not only being engaged in by Muslims and Christians, but started by them...The current one included.

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Thanks Speaker!

I would like to point out that the exclusive nature of the abrahamic religions tends to lead to a lot of conflict, both within themselves and with other religious and ideological groups.

This exclusivity has already cost the world many a distinct and wonderful cultures. I think the time has come for them to finally stop behaving like adolescents (which they are in terms of the age of their religions) and take more responsibility for their actions

the "world religion" mentioned in revelations has come and gone, it was called caesar worship

it's the reason they destroyed the second temple, because tehy wouldn't woship the casear

ok, technically it wasn't the world, but the world as they knew it was nothing but roman

Originally posted by madnessinmysoul
the "world religion" mentioned in revelations has come and gone, it was called caesar worship

it's the reason they destroyed the second temple, because tehy wouldn't woship the casear

ok, technically it wasn't the world, but the world as they knew it was nothing but roman

Madness, I am not necessarily saying that you are correct, but you bring up a point that I emphasize when it comes to the book of Revelation. If one doesn't put it in the context of the mindset of the prophet, then there is no real way to understand biblical prophecy.

You cannot put the book of Revelation in the context of modern man's imagination and state that is what Revelation is stating. You make a very good point, madness.

There is no "Antichrist" since anyone who does not believe that Jesus was the prophesied Messiah is an antichrist (according to John). I believe you are referring to one of the two beasts from Revelations. One is symbolic of the world government and its leader (the one most people still call the Antichrist). The other is symbolic of the world religion and its leader (the False Prophet).

According to Revelations, they will work together with the False Prophet eventually claiming that the world leader is God. This world leader will be possessed by Satan and will declare war on the God of the Old Testament and Torah.

It seems to me that this new religion has started already. And the Earth Mother is a central figure. Its called Environmentalism. The whole "Global Warming" hooie is the clarion call and all who deny it will perish in the fires of their own ignorance.

In the mean time however, the elites of the planet can get together and tax all our asses clean off. What a racket. Oh, and since our 10, 20, and 30 year predictions have been blown out of the water lets just say it will last 1000 years so no one can argue with our faith...

What is the most important issue to the past couple decades worth of college graduates that learn to deny God and country? Evironment. The new God...

that's an interesting take on things Gatordone, albeit a little ambiguous. I am curious as to what your stand on Global Warming etc is?

Originally posted by darkelf
There is no "Antichrist" since anyone who does not believe that Jesus was the prophesied Messiah is an antichrist (according to John). I believe you are referring to one of the two beasts from Revelations. One is symbolic of the world government and its leader (the one most people still call the Antichrist). The other is symbolic of the world religion and its leader (the False Prophet).

The "Beast" of Revelation is the form of government that the "anti-Christ" will preside over, in my honest opinion.

Originally posted by Gatordone
It seems to me that this new religion has started already. And the Earth Mother is a central figure. Its called Environmentalism. The whole "Global Warming" hooie is the clarion call and all who deny it will perish in the fires of their own ignorance.

Well, it is indeed a fact that the earth is warming. However, being someone who believes mother nature knows what she is doing, I am starting to think that this is something that occurs naturally over periods of time.

Look, in the 900s, Greenland was a cultivated farmland. Then, what do you know, all of a sudden there was the mini-ice age in the 1400s. Greenand became a chunk of ice floating in the ocean. There is a reason for the environment,I am starting to think, going through warming and cooling trends.

Now, I am not so naive as to think that humanities pollution doesn't contirbute to some of this, but I am starting to think that it is not the only contributing factor. I mean, it is also a fact that the radiation from the sun is increasing so...

As far as earth worshippers go, well, that is their right and no one has the right to tell them that they don't have the right to believe as they damn well please. I may not fully agree with all of their beliefs,but it is my right to disagree.


Do I think the earth is alive? In a sense, albeit probably not in the same manner that you and I are. However, as far as my believeing that the earth is something to be worshipped. Uh, no.




[edit on 28-2-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by puneetsg
that's an interesting take on things Gatordone, albeit a little ambiguous. I am curious as to what your stand on Global Warming etc is?

The Earth does seem to be warming. I think our responsibility for it is highly questionable. I also don't think we can stop it. How many polar bears drowned after the last-age? What about the wolly mammoth?

It is an all-encompassing issue for the worlds leftists and that scares me. The socialist elites that have taken control of Americas education system through indoctrination have been building towards exactly this sort of issue. An issue they can use to guilt the industrialized nations of Earth into giving the worlds elites more power to control us. And at the same time ignore those places they have no control, ie China and India.

They are trying to make a scientific issue into an emotional issue (children so young as not to have seen a science class yet are too scared to sleep anymore- where does that lead?) and have learned all the tricks to disavow anything they disagree with. "Exxon hired them" while all the while supporting that science that agrees with their view with equally slanted grants.

It's all so crooked I can't believe that there are so many folks, on this great conspiracy board, that refuse to see it. Is it too big to see all the ties?

The fact that there are radical muslims who want to destroy the great Satan and her allies is discreditted as ridiculous and really a non-issue by the same people who think that Global Warming is really the most dangerous issue facing our generatation? Doesn't that seem wildly bent to people that are used to at least some semblance of reality? I mean, whatever side you're on of either issue, the fact that we can't agree on which of two widely seperate problems is more dangerous is insane!

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The "Beast" of Revelation is the form of government that the "anti-Christ" will preside over, in my honest opinion.

To SpeakerofTruth,

The ‘’beast’’ of Revelation is not what would explicitly be accurate as a form of government. A Government can exist as a mean of power, though not without the authority civilians only can render. To remind you, Cuba is not a democratic government since the civilians conform to be ruled that way. Basically, the homonym ‘’beast’’ is a new, if not innovative, mean of thinking and understanding of the world around us. The same way, Jesus preached and prophesied a world of equality between the genders, a world of forgiveness, a world of humility love and communism; the anti-Christ will be a prophet who will replace Christ and speak radically, promoting new perspectives, new conceptions, a new envision of a living. According to my Lexicon the preposition anti (Greek: αντί-) adds the attributes of opposition and… replacement. Anti-Christ is not a man who will oppose Jesus, is a prophet who will follow after what Jesus preached.

To everyone,

On the one hand we have Jesus with his radical speech for his time, controversial indeed, while many denied him and hatred passionately. On the other hand, we have anti-Christ the man who has been prophesied to come and deliver a radical speech of our time.
A man who has been accused for be seduce mankind into the nets of corruption and enthrallment. Controversial and most hatred, by those who believe fanatically in Christian religion. You claim he will change things and bring havoc with him. ‘’Yes’’ is my answer. I do hope to bring havoc with him, as Christ brought havoc to the Israel’s monarchy and later to the Roman Empire until the bull of Mediollanum about two thousand years ago. I believe in chaotic policy, that after a period of chaos, stability will come. After all, isn’t what it is prophesied? Peace after a period of unrest.

Recently, I have initiated a studying in some philosophies-ideologies such as Atheism and Dystheism. I cannot say clearly I am influenced, but the spark is enough to start thinking and raise questions. Do you really think there is a supreme being such as Devil (anti-Christ) who has nothing else to do, but to pull our leg and control us? I believe its humans’ nature to include the divine and unknown in new ideologies, something that can be taken advantage from cunning potential leaders and rout the masses to specific directions. The recorded history gives unlimited examples from cruelties happened in the name of God. And the already existing religions have served their purpose. It is time to be outshined and unite everyone under one religion. A religion that will be of no specific God and mostly will not serve anyone’s needs. There will be no more ‘’Jealous Gods’’ and no more ‘’Jealous priesthoods’’. No more jealous fanatics giving away their life for a God (?) who is only promises. A heaven just for God and his followers? Paradise is among us. It is inside our hands to make it real. A Hell for those who oppose him? Heck, this is not a God of Love, but a tyrant. Reminds me all of those Hitlers, Stalins, Bushs declaring ‘’If you are not with us, then you are against us’’. Hell is God’s Guadanamo, Ausviz. Do you simply see the correlation? We have not ‘’jealous Gods’’, we have ‘’jealous priesthoods’’. Humans are those who said that and commit blasphemy by putting words in God’s mouths.

Do you remember how the Catholic (and Orthodox until recently) church have been denying the incoming ideas, radical and scientific elaborating theories moving the world around us in the medieval years? The inquisitors of the Papal States accused them for articulating the speech of Satan and instantly considered as heretics of the stability of the World Order and should be burnt on the stake!!! The Revelation of John has been written long ago after Christ’s death, which makes me believe it has been manipulated to serve specific purposes over modernist ideas. Christ preached love. What was the message beyond these powerful words: ‘’Love one an other’’? The rest are human words on God’s mouth.

Dragonlike, are you the Anti-Crist?

www.gnosticteachings.org...

The iniquitous one, of which Paul of Tarsus spoke in his Epistles, is certainly the harsh reality of our times. The iniquitous one is already here. It manifests itself everywhere; it certainly has the gift of ubiquity.

It argues in cafes, negotiates at the United Nations, sits comfortably in Geneva, conducts experiments in laboratories, invents atomic bombs, remote-controlled missiles, asphyxiating gases, bacteriological bombs, etc., etc., etc.

The Antichrist, fascinated by its own intellectualism, which is absolutely exclusive to know-it-alls, believes that it knows all of the phenomena of Nature.


The Antichrist, believing itself to be omniscient, is trapped in the decay of its own theories. It directly rejects anything resembling God, or that which is worshipped. The Self-sufficiency, pride and arrogance of the Antichrist are unbearable. The Antichrist mortally hates the Christian virtues of Faith, patience and humility.

Everyone bows before the Antichrist. Obviously, it has invented ultrasonic aircraft, wonderful ships, splendid cars, amazing medicines, etc. Under such conditions, who can doubt the Antichrist?

In this day and age, anyone who dares to speak against all the miracles and wonders of the Son of Perdition condemns himself to everyone's ridicule, sarcasm and irony; he condemns himself to be classified as stupid and ignorant.

Many wars, famines and diseases have been propagated by the Antichrist throughout the world, and no doubt they will continue to be propagated before the arrival of the final catastrophe. Unfortunately, the hour of the great apostasy has arrived (that time announced by all the prophets), and no human being will dare to rise up against the Antichrist.

[edit on 1-3-2007 by Funkydung]

Dragonlike. Are you an Anarchist? I must say i do not completely agree with the Anarchists POV but i certainly find them to be a fascinating bunch

And funky, are you insinuating that Science is the Antichrist?

Originally posted by readytofightforglory
Dragonlike, are you the Anti-Crist?

Anyone and anything that does not believe in christ is the anti-chirst, humans, aliens, plants, animals, robots etc. etc.

This is proabably the question that another intelligent lifefrom would fears most when being asked by humankind: "Do you believe in christ? Do you believe in God? Are you God?"

It would have to answers 'yes' to avoid being labelled as the anti-christ, satan, infidel, heretic, etc. and even that is no guarantee for acceptance.(that's why they stay away if they are smart.)

Religious people see everything from their religions point of view, everything must fits into their religion in one way or another. There can be no exception.

Everthing narrows down to Good or Evil, black or white, why is there nothing in-between. Do neutrals who don't take any side fall into the evil and bad category automatically because they do not believe as they should?

Can there only be one answer for every question, or can there be many? What type of people deals in absolutes?


[edit on 7-3-2007 by ixiy]

Originally posted by helen670
whoever does not follow him will be killed or tortured for their true beliefs in the one true God

Do you mean like when they crucified Christ?
And later on, when they burned Jeanne d'Arc at the stake?

Pharisees...christians...killing those God sent in the name of God...for the purpose of preserving their earthly positions and the esteem of men?

hmmm...

Seems like a match to me!

there is no coming world religion and it's more than proposterous to think so. you'd have to kill off all of the atheists and convert everyone away from their already established religion.

consider this, the single largest religion in the world is christianity. it has 2 billion people. for it to become the only religion on the planet it would have to convert and/or kill over 4 billion people. that's the easiest for any single religion to take dominance, and i really don't see that happening

The NWO is trying to get rid of religion imo.

Originally posted by puneetsg
And funky, are you insinuating that Science is the Antichrist?

It depends on the different angle you are looking at things... and the concept anti-Christ. An example, if you accept the existence of the ''White brotherhood of Babylon'', i am using a name given by David Icke, then you will believe that everything written in the religious texts is false, shifted and corrupted and... in reverse. To elucidate myself, swastica is considered to be a symbolof unity by phoenicians, the ultimate rivals of the ''serpents'', while swastica is considered to be a symbol of destruction...Considering that, the anti-Christ should be a person offensive for those inside the brotherhood and not for us...

Originally posted by puneetsg
Dragonlike. Are you an Anarchist?

I don't know yet, Still searching...

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Originally posted by Oblate Spheroid
The NWO is trying to get rid of religion imo.

This is good imo

[edit on 9-3-2007 by Dragonlike]