Who can I sue for complications directly linked to the vaccines?

I already know the answer. Nobody. I have no legal recourse to sue for getting ill due to the vaccine. I will wait for FDA approval with guidelines on known complications and make a responsible decision. If I am forced to get it I now have legal grounds to sue my employer and the drug company.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
I already know the answer. Nobody. I have no legal recourse to sue for getting ill due to the vaccine. I will wait for FDA approval with guidelines on known complications and make a responsible decision. If I am forced to get it I now have legal grounds to sue my employer and the drug company.

Good Question. They have exempted the pharmaceuticals from being sued. I think that is BS and Nuremburg 2 will need to proceed shortly.

I am guessing if the Military don't step in for the US, then we are hosed as the DOJ and the other three letter agencies are doing their own will, avoiding scrutiny for apparent crimes, and are not doing the peoples will anymore. The people are now the enemy . We hired them and now they think we are not allowed to stop them.


Talk with one of those law firms that specializes in damages.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Pfizer and Moderna, the first two manufacturers to receive emergency use authorisation for their m-RNA Covid-19 vaccines, were granted immunity from liability by the US government. This protects them, until 2024, from lawsuits arising out of any foreseen and unintentional medical complications as a result of vaccination against Covid-19. Sovereign immunity also protects the US Food and Drug Administration; vaccine recipients cannot sue the FDA for approving the vaccine.
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Under the HHS Declaration and its amendments, manufacturers and distributors that are covered, state and local governments that supervise the immunisation programme, and health professionals who administer the vaccine are immune from legal liability for losses due to administration of covered countermeasures against Covid-19.
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Covid-19 vaccines are covered by the US Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), under which individuals who die or suffer serious injuries directly caused by the administration of covered countermeasures may be eligible to receive compensation.
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However, the bar for compensation under CCIP is very high, and compensation very rare. Since 2010, CICP has received 1,360 claim filings, of which only 29 claims were compensated, totalling over $6 million.

Source: Explained: Vaccine makers and indemnity

Here's some info on Workers Compensation:

Ashley Cuttino, an attorney with Ogletree Deakins in Greenville, S.C., explained that an employer-mandated vaccine is considered a part of work. So under most state laws, an adverse reaction would be covered by workers' compensation.

Workers' compensation has been the employee's only recourse for other employer-required vaccinations, noted Helene Hechtkopf, an attorney with Hoguet Newman Regal & Kenney in New York City. "There is no reason to believe a COVID-19 vaccine would be treated differently," she said.
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Additionally, the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act may provide employers immunity from claims related to side effects of a vaccine or other injury at the employer's vaccination site if the employer is considered a "program planner" that supervises or administers an onsite vaccination program.

Source: COVID-19 Vaccines and Employer Liability
Bottom line seems to be that it would seem very difficult to get compensated if the employers covered their asses.


Warning: I am not a lawyer or labor organizer.
but
I would say that if your employer mandates the vaccine, then get assurances upfront that Workers Compensation will cover complications. If the employer can't or wont provide the assurances, then organize the employees to split the cost for an attorney.

a reply to: Justoneman

The shaming of me for demanding the ability to sue for complications for a drug not approved by thr FDA I truly do not understand. Everyone should have this right. This is complete madness. Drug companies constantly get sued and pay settlements for complications to include death. Why am I being shamed for demanding this right?

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

This is all to help people. How selfish of you to ask questions.

It's really all about helping people guise!

At least nine people have become new billionaires since the beginning of the COVID pandemic, thanks to the excessive profits pharmaceutical corporations with monopolies on COVID vaccines are making, The People’s Vaccine Alliance revealed today ahead of a G20 leaders Global Health Summit....

Between them, the nine new billionaires, have a combined net wealth of $19.3 billion, enough to fully vaccinate all people in low-income countries 1.3 times. Meanwhile, these countries have received only 0.2 per cent of the global supply of vaccines, because of the massive shortfall in available doses, despite being home to 10 per cent of the world’s population.

It's totally about stopping COVID though.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

Turning into a real pressure cooker out here. It seems people are angry but angry by and large at the wrong people. There are risks taking anything non approved. Why not wait until the risks are mitigated as much as possible and go with the known risk that chances of dying from covid are staggeringly low. Go with the known low risk. Do not go with the unknown risk. Never go with the unknown unless the other risk is staggeringly high of death...meh.

I firmly stand on the foundation of this reasoning. It is solid, rational and can't be shaken without knowing the unknown data.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
I already know the answer. Nobody. I have no legal recourse to sue for getting ill due to the vaccine. I will wait for FDA approval with guidelines on known complications and make a responsible decision. If I am forced to get it I now have legal grounds to sue my employer and the drug company.

Nobody since they have laws in place that say that you cannot sue the developers or distributors of vaccines.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
I already know the answer. Nobody. I have no legal recourse to sue for getting ill due to the vaccine. I will wait for FDA approval with guidelines on known complications and make a responsible decision. If I am forced to get it I now have legal grounds to sue my employer and the drug company.

On second thought. This time around nobody has actually approved this as a actual vaccine. This to me says that there is a opening to take it to trial.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
a reply to: Justoneman

The shaming of me for demanding the ability to sue for complications for a drug not approved by thr FDA I truly do not understand. Everyone should have this right. This is complete madness. Drug companies constantly get sued and pay settlements for complications to include death. Why am I being shamed for demanding this right?

Stand tall. You are in the right. Liars and thieves are due for some Karma of the biggest variety.

I have been jokingly taking down 99 imaginary bottles of Hopium Beer on the wall and passing it around. I am saving a bottle for when these evil people are looking at justice for all that especially includes their crimes against humanity.

Blessings

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Right now it looks like the only recourse is suing your employer for damages after the fact if they mandate the vaccine.

The only problem with that is that employers have probably already been told that proving injury due to the vaccine and not some other health coincidence is slim to none since scientists and doctors can't seem to agree on anything with ANY certainty, regardless of the situation.

As someone mentioned above, Workers Comp may end up being the only sure thing.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
a reply to: Justoneman

The shaming of me for demanding the ability to sue for complications for a drug not approved by thr FDA I truly do not understand. Everyone should have this right. This is complete madness. Drug companies constantly get sued and pay settlements for complications to include death. Why am I being shamed for demanding this right?

It's a technique the old Soviet Union called Psychopolitics. The idea is to isolate people as bad thinkers or crazy, that go against the party line, the propaganda. I would like to offer you this: if you're right, and opposed, you're in the best company, as this is what the evil heard of the world does, consider the principle that applies to those of faith, that are so persecuted:

Matthew 5:10-12 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

The shame is on those trying to shame the person who is right. "Good Nazis" do not like individuals. In fact, they fear individuals, so much they'll lash out at anybody different. At heart, the herd is cowardly, find safety in numbers just like a herd of dumb animals, so much so they'll fail at even common sense.

Lastly, how stupid can it be, the vaccines so "safe and effective" that pharma needs blanket legal protection? There's a real vote for safe and effective, from the horse's mouth, is it not? They're using the entire population as guinea pigs, or worse.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

You can't. It could be so many other things ...you don't have enough $$$$ to sue...or to live thru tryin' to....

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
a reply to: Ksihkehe

Turning into a real pressure cooker out here. It seems people are angry but angry by and large at the wrong people. There are risks taking anything non approved. Why not wait until the risks are mitigated as much as possible and go with the known risk that chances of dying from covid are staggeringly low. Go with the known low risk. Do not go with the unknown risk. Never go with the unknown unless the other risk is staggeringly high of death...meh.

I firmly stand on the foundation of this reasoning. It is solid, rational and can't be shaken without knowing the unknown data.

Somewhere along the lines the goalposts have been moved.

This isnt about death rate. Its about crippling our medical infrastructure with an extremely contagious bioweapon, that causes long term complications in addition to death. Look at the whole picture and keep your eyes on the objective.

No one is forcing you to get the shot. You may not be able to keep your job, but that's a choice. You may not be able to fly, so drive. You may not be able to go to a restaurant, so cook your own meal.

You may not like it. Too bad.

Some of us don't want to be around the unvaccinated anymore. And the unvaccinated LIE about it.

I have no more sympathy for anyone who gets their medical advice from Tucker Carlson and some guy who sells pillows.

And if a business requires masks, put on the damn mask or stay our of that business. These videos of "Karens" whining and crying always end up the same. Cops escorting you nut cases out of the store.

Everyone was on board for telling some gay couple they couldn't even get a cake. That was fine. Well you know what else is fine, a business telling those spreading a disease not to enter. I'm good with it.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
I already know the answer. Nobody. I have no legal recourse to sue for getting ill due to the vaccine.

Just as with every other vaccine.

For any possible injury form other 'regular' vaccines, all you can is make a claim against the vaccine injury court, that will fight you tooh and nail using their best lwayers with unlimited funds. The vast majority of these cases result in nothing for the injured.

I will wait for FDA approval with guidelines on known complications and make a responsible decision. If I am forced to get it I now have legal grounds to sue my employer and the drug company.

Of course anyone can sue anyone for anything, but that doesn't mean it will go anywhere.

I'll tell you something that I really don't understand...

How can anyone who questions the blatant lies and irrational propaganda regarding these jabs continue to believe the propaganda - or at least not start to question it - about 'regular' vaccines, when it all comes from the exact same people/entities?

originally posted by: tanstaafl
How can anyone who questions the blatant lies and irrational propaganda regarding these jabs continue to believe the propaganda - or at least not start to question it - about 'regular' vaccines, when it all comes from the exact same people/entities?

One very important point is that this "vaccine" is not like old vaccines, that introduce something of the pathogen for your immune system to learn to fight. This "vaccine" is monkeying around with altering normal, RNA cellular response, is not your body being encouraged to do what's natural, in fighting the microbe. There's a huge difference, this "vaccine" along the lines of, like, petroleum based drugs that are foreign to one's body, hence the lists of serious side effects, from a drug invasion your body does not really approve of, know how to deal with. They're monkeying around with new technology, and these evil morons are trying to test the ENTIRE population, or of worse motives, certainly the Nazi politicians using the pandemic to reduce freedoms and gain more control, were it to kill thousands no matter, and you can take that to the bank. Think about it, the utter bs, as if some cloth or rinky dink, non N-95 mask is really protecting anybody from a virus. It's about dictating you wear a near useless face diaper, for the sheer hell of it, that these psycho egomaniacs see you on your knees, and you better believe looking to rob you of any personal power, your freedom, the game. This is what is really going on, the old commie, damned evil, "Never waste a good crisis," liberals are famous for using as a doorway to grab power.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
Some of us don't want to be around the unvaccinated anymore.

Clear you must have applied to Mensa, how you believe in your vaccine, that should dictate you shouldn't care squat about anybody unvaccinated being around you.

I have breaking news. There are those among us that have never wanted to be around the likes of you, not in this life, or any other.

a reply to: MiddleInsite

The burden of blame if something goes horribly wrong with these vaccines long term is my question to you. Vaccines can take 5-15 years for approval by the FDA. It is causing complications, Fauci has admitted it. He does not know if there will be any long term complications; unknown at this time.

What if it is eventually determined there are serious detrimental long term effects. Do you really want people like me telling you in 5 years told ya and mock and ridicule you. I would not do that to you but I don't think you would like it very much if people did and they will because you are doing it to them right now.

All people like me are asking is step back for a minute and admit there is a chance of something going horribly wrong. If that chance is .03% it would be the same chance of surviving covid without the vaccine.

So who is right at that point in time? Things are not as simple as shut up and take it anymore.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
I already know the answer. Nobody. I have no legal recourse to sue for getting ill due to the vaccine. I will wait for FDA approval with guidelines on known complications and make a responsible decision. If I am forced to get it I now have legal grounds to sue my employer and the drug company.

I keep thinking that everything I see or hear is just one big legal disclaimer. So lets say they say no one under 40 needs the vaccine and so lets have the virus do its thing as we push that age group to herd immunity. Then a variant comes along and hit those people hard, people will be saying why did you tell us we didn't need the vaccine!!! Lets sue someone!!!

Now if they say everyone needs the vaccine then it doesn't matter who dies as there is no one to sue.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
I have no more sympathy for anyone who gets their medical advice from Tucker Carlson and some guy who sells pillows.
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Yes, smart people get their medical advice from the pro-vax "journalist" a few channels over and ignore the troubling science.

It will all be okay, just take daddy Trump's vaccine. Joe couldn't save you but daddy Trump made this vaccine for you before he left, Trump will save you. Just take his vaccine and it will all be okay because it's the best vaccine ever, believe me, biggest vax in history, very big deal, and it's saving the nation.