Corona Virus Updates Part 2

a reply to: butcherguy

in the gy we use about a 8oz cup worth in a regular sized mopping station used by most janitors

originally posted by: ragiusnotiel
Answers I need:

If I were to rent a car, what cleaners shouls I use to decontaminate it?
Should I avoid highways/major cities?
Route around confirmed infection locations?
Avoid hotel stays?

Thanks in advance.

The only sure way to avoid it is to avoid coming into contact with other people.

That's your answer.

originally posted by: ragiusnotiel
Answers I need:

If I were to rent a car, what cleaners shouls I use to decontaminate it?
Should I avoid highways/major cities?
Route around confirmed infection locations?
Avoid hotel stays?

Thanks in advance.

I would Lysol spray disinfectant for the rental car.
I would sleep in the car. Avoid people... if this blows up

a reply to: Power_Semi

If there isn't an outbreak in the next 72 hours with lots of people suddenly showing symptoms, don't worry about it, because it isn't going to happen.

originally posted by: Power_Semi
Why take this new case on a much longer journey when supposedly the specialist Newcastle facility only has 2 patients.

Maybe to have another group of eyes seeing what they can come up with to combat it?

originally posted by: wuflu

originally posted by: tennisdawg

originally posted by: wuflu
a reply to: tennisdawg

Virus can live on metal surfaces up to 21 days in the right conditions

Source? Know way this was info you received for your project. So where is this coming from? Info wrs and Alex jones?

First of all, when designing a temporary facility for a quarantine area, it is helpful to know what kind of materials the virus survives the longest on. This info pushed me away from using standard stainless steel countertops. You have been challenging everything I post since you created your login recently. I have been here for 10 years. Good luck with your disinfo campaign.

Because you are saying outlandish #. With no sources or any verification. And IMO if you were this important a guy with this much info on a global pandemic you would not have the time to constantly post in this thread.

So what you been here 10 years. That means absolutely nothing.

When you post it can live on surfaces for up to 21 days that needs a source.

This is not INFO WARS

Sounds like he was just a contractor that was given specifications so he could bid on a job, that I am presuming he didn't win. Nothing he has said is that outlandish.

originally posted by: scyther2286
a reply to: Power_Semi

If there isn't an outbreak in the next 72 hours with lots of people suddenly showing symptoms, don't worry about it, because it isn't going to happen.

The maths disagrees.

The maths is infallible.

originally posted by: fleabit

originally posted by: wuflu

originally posted by: tennisdawg

originally posted by: wuflu
a reply to: tennisdawg

Virus can live on metal surfaces up to 21 days in the right conditions

Source? Know way this was info you received for your project. So where is this coming from? Info wrs and Alex jones?

First of all, when designing a temporary facility for a quarantine area, it is helpful to know what kind of materials the virus survives the longest on. This info pushed me away from using standard stainless steel countertops. You have been challenging everything I post since you created your login recently. I have been here for 10 years. Good luck with your disinfo campaign.

Because you are saying outlandish #. With no sources or any verification. And IMO if you were this important a guy with this much info on a global pandemic you would not have the time to constantly post in this thread.

So what you been here 10 years. That means absolutely nothing.

When you post it can live on surfaces for up to 21 days that needs a source.

This is not INFO WARS

Sounds like he was just a contractor that was given specifications so he could bid on a job, that I am presuming he didn't win. Nothing he has said is that outlandish.

He said it can live on surfaces for up to 21 days. why would a contractor know that?

a reply to: wuflu

I worked in construction for years running commercial job sites and in order to place a bid you need to go look at the site and know what materials are being considered but other than that thats about it

a reply to: Power_Semi

pretty sure i sense the sarcasm , but if not, the math would suggest that we would have seen a major outbreak in a major city not named Wuhan over a week ago.

The Illness has a 14 day or so asymptomatic period. The first thread started on the 23rd. It would stand to reason that if this doesn't start showing large amounts of transmission in the next 48 hours, that the disease has largely been curtailed and that the problem will stay mostly isolated to China.

There has only been a handful of asymptomatic cases, they are not even sure now if that is true - could just be very mild symptoms to start. Also the 14 days is just the maximum - the average onset was 4.5 days or so. And the first case in the U.S. was I believe 17 days ago.

But you also have to remember that it took time to ramp up even in Wuhan. Which I think is why it became so widespread. Lots of people with mild symptoms, I'm sure many thought they had the flu. So I think there is still some windup time here in the U.S. - I'd say around 10 more days or so. If by then we don't see much happening, then perhaps it won't be nearly as bad - but we'll see.

originally posted by: wuflu

originally posted by: fleabit

originally posted by: wuflu

originally posted by: tennisdawg

originally posted by: wuflu
a reply to: tennisdawg

Virus can live on metal surfaces up to 21 days in the right conditions

Source? Know way this was info you received for your project. So where is this coming from? Info wrs and Alex jones?

First of all, when designing a temporary facility for a quarantine area, it is helpful to know what kind of materials the virus survives the longest on. This info pushed me away from using standard stainless steel countertops. You have been challenging everything I post since you created your login recently. I have been here for 10 years. Good luck with your disinfo campaign.

Because you are saying outlandish #. With no sources or any verification. And IMO if you were this important a guy with this much info on a global pandemic you would not have the time to constantly post in this thread.

So what you been here 10 years. That means absolutely nothing.

When you post it can live on surfaces for up to 21 days that needs a source.

This is not INFO WARS

Sounds like he was just a contractor that was given specifications so he could bid on a job, that I am presuming he didn't win. Nothing he has said is that outlandish.

He said it can live on surfaces for up to 21 days. why would a contractor know that?

He says it's so he knows what to build it out of.

Really I'd imagine the govt would have already decided what to build it out of and would have come to him and said "hey tennis dude, how much to build this out of X material"

Not "hey tennis dude, we have this killer virus no one is supposed to know about that has X incubation period, can live on stainless steel for X time, and etc, etc, etc - what do YOU h=think we should do?"

It's actually laughable.

a reply to: scyther2286


Just now read this on Fox News channel, published 1 hour ago:

"4 American evacuees who arrived Wednesday at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar in San Diego were hospitalized after showing signs of coronavirus, the pneumonia-like illness that began in the Chinese city of Wuhan and has since sickened more than 28,000 worldwide.

Of the 167 evacuees who arrived at the military base, three adults and one child were taken to local hospitals with a fever or a cough, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) media advisory. Two of the patients were taken to UC San Diego Health hospital (UCSD) while one adult and the child were transported to Rady Children’s Hospital."

LINK

originally posted by: scyther2286
a reply to: Power_Semi

pretty sure i sense the sarcasm , but if not, the math would suggest that we would have seen a major outbreak in a major city not named Wuhan over a week ago.

No it doesn't - sigh - I can't be bothered to do it all again.

But you don't go from 1 to 5000 in a week.

It takes months.

the numbers are going up, that's all you need to focus on.

originally posted by: Power_Semi

originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: Power_Semi

originally posted by: AngelsDecay

originally posted by: Power_Semi
Amazing - 3rd case of corona virus in Uk confirmed and the main story in the daily mail is some dude having an expensive watch stolen, and the ever disappointing BBC is about some Scottish politician sending questionable texts to a 16 year old boy.

Etc.

Personally speaking I would be 1 billion times much more worried and concerned if an agent of the law started to send my 15 or 16 years old boy some kind of *questionable messages* than my country got hit by a virus which and according to last numbers only killed 2 persons out of China after all these weeks... (and not to diminish all of our Chinese friends suffering of course).

Well you've 1 billion times got your priorities back to front then.

Glad to know you are immortal and will never gonna die one day...

Some person sent some words to my son is 1 billion times worse than 28000+ at least infected people, 500+ dead, and the possibility it's going to spread farther and kill hordes of people.

Is 1 billion times worse than some words? Someone saying "You're cute" is worse than death?

Morality over practicality over reality.

Sorry.. I can't understand your point of view... As you wrote you have all those huge China numbers in mind, but you are worried because UK media didn't report a single third patient on the British newspapers...?
Maybe selfishness over common sense...

a reply to: TruthJava

I know some Navy people stationed in SD... hmm...

a reply to: fleabit

the point being if it was an easily transmissible disease we would have a massive population of people infected outside of China at this point. We simply do not.

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: butcherguy

in the gy we use about a 8oz cup worth in a regular sized mopping station used by most janitors

That sounds about right for disinfection. The CDC recommends one cup of bleach to 5 gallons of water for disinfection.
Water is safe to drink if the chlorine level is at or below 4ml/L ( .064 cups per gallon).
Big difference there.

originally posted by: scyther2286
a reply to: fleabit

the point being if it was an easily transmissible disease we would have a massive population of people infected outside of China at this point. We simply do not.

Because the best efforts are being made to keep it contained? I don't understand your argument.

I find it interesting that there is little comment from the US citizens who have been evacuated and placed in quarantine- just a couple examples, with all smiles and glad to be home.
These people were at ground zero and would have first hand information as to how bad things really are in China. It would have been so easy for them to have discounted all the rumors of thousands infected, hundreds dyeing, etc.
Sometimes what isn't said is more telling than what is said.