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Corona Virus Updates Part 2

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posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:39 AM
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YOU are using the liquidity injections as an indicator that things aren't ok

YOU ARE USING THE MARKET AS AN INDICATOR


Yea, I worded the OP crappily, thus the clarification. I solely meant that I don't understand how anyone can point at the market and say "See, everything is FINE!" - when it has been boosted by the Bank of China to the tune of 173 billion. The market is not a good indicator on the situation in China because it was artificially inflated.




posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:48 AM
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originally posted by: Adphil28
a reply to: Tukota

Last thing we need in the middle of an outbreak is no coffee people running around without underwear 😂😂


LOL, you got that right! If I've got my coffee I can take on anything. I've heard it said that coffee is like crack to Americans. My Canadian relatives go for their tea though, and think coffee is pretty nasty stuff.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: fleabit

originally posted by: JSpader

originally posted by: Power_Semi

originally posted by: CrazeeWorld777
This thread is moving too faST.

sOME PEOPLE ARE WASTING SPACE CHATTING ABOUT OTHER THINGS, INSTEAD OF THE actual numbers being infected.

Can we try to just keep to the facts of the virus! News sources and text from that?

Maybe if you want to have long conversation, go to 'chat' forum.

Its just very tiring thread, trying to read the important stats with all the other posts!


If you just want to see numbers go to bno news, don't need a thread with people just posting the same numbers over and over again.

What most of us find interesting is different opinions about what' really happening, probably because it's like old ATS before it turned into US politics only.

You might not believe this but there's a whole world outside the US of A (in fact the vast majority of people on earth live there), and a whole universe of topics outside of US politics.


My sentiments. I enjoy reading about people’s personal connections to this event. For me this is how I piece the story along with what is presented by the government. I take in the whole package and then my make my assessment. Troubling times are ahead I am afraid. In the south, we have something called Mardi Gras....if this keep going south, let’s just say it may not be prudent to go to such an event.


Yea.. I mean, you have a great chance of infection at Mardi Gras -without- there being a Corona virus! : )


On the basis that this is now outside of China, and it's clearly highly contageous (e.g. the cruise ships) then most reasonable people would probably argue that it's a good idea to avoid large gatherings of people.

Especially sweaty shouty heavy breathing ones who have large areas of flesh exposed.
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posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:50 AM
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All I said was that the government knows more than we do.


Do they really and if so who in the government? A lot of them have been busy with this impeachment diversion and the recent Iowa circus. The World Health Organization say they don't know where this is going and too much information to make any sense of it all.

Maybe a few on the approved list get a more accurate set of numbers like those that have slipped out on the official China website. But as everyone that works below them has the same set of tainted data as the public what can they really do about it?

I expect those that have watched this thread or been on the topic through other internet resources since it started has a better idea of the situation rather than those that rely on the fake stream media.
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posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:54 AM
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a reply to: TrulyColorBlind

Ok, let's lead by example and stay on topic!
Here is what I found from a scientific article from 2015 called "Waterborne Viruses: A Barrier to Safe Drinking Water"


Are Waterborne Viruses a Particular Concern?
It is well known that bacteria are major causes of diarrhea transmitted through unsafe drinking water. What is less appreciated are viruses in these same drinking water sources and their impact on human health. Water-transmitted viral pathogens that are classified as having a moderate to high health significance by the World Health Organization (WHO) include adenovirus, astrovirus, hepatitis A and E viruses, rotavirus, norovirus and other caliciviruses, and enteroviruses, including coxsackieviruses and polioviruses [5]. Also, viruses that are excreted through urine like polyomaviruses [5] and cytomegalovirus [6] can potentially be spread through water. Other viruses, such as influenza and coronaviruses, have been suggested as organisms that can be transmitted through drinking water, but evidence is inconclusive



Waterborne viruses differ in terms of their genome content and capsid proteins, but these viruses share several properties that make them of particular concern regarding the risk of disease outbreak associated with drinking water contamination. Several of these viruses have extremely low infectious doses; the probability of infection from exposure to one rotavirus particle is 31% [8]. Viruses are shed in feces in very high numbers even asymptomatically. For example, up to 1011 norovirus particles can be present per gram of stool [9]. In addition, non-enveloped viruses can persist in water for long periods of time [10]. When considering these characteristics, inadequate disinfection of fecally contaminated drinking water could easily lead to outbreaks of viral gastroenteritis from ingestion. Notably, drinking water can also transmit viruses via inhalation (e.g., showering) or contact with skin and eyes (e.g., swimming) causing respiratory and ocular infections.



The current US regulations require the removal or inactivation of 99.99% of enteric viruses by approved treatment techniques, but specific virus families are not individually regulated.


Here is the source of the whole article: Waterborne Viruses: A Barrier to Safe Drinking Water

Does not look good, tapwater can be contaminated with the corona virus...
I have no idea if (our) water supply systems can identify and remove/inactivate the current Corona virus?
Anybody has more info on this?

Ravinski



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:57 AM
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Amazing - 3rd case of corona virus in Uk confirmed and the main story in the daily mail is some dude having an expensive watch stolen, and the ever disappointing BBC is about some Scottish politician sending questionable texts to a 16 year old boy.

Nothing to see here, cough, splutter, wheezy rasp, move along now, hee-hawing breathing.

Etc.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:57 AM
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Do they really and if so who in the government?

Many do, from bureaucrats in the CIA and NSA up to the elected officials in the Senate and House that are privy to briefings about what intelligence has been gathered.
We have intragovernmental communications between Chinese officials and spies on the ground to let us know more of what they are dealing with over there.
The WHO seems like a bunch of bureaucratic boobs to me.... so far.

A lot of what we do here in this thread is conjecture, but that is what we have to do, since we lack verified information.
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posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:57 AM
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Kept the grandson home from school today. will keep him home tommorrow as well. See where this goes by sunday then reassess.

Schools are like a petri dish



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:57 AM
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originally posted by: fleabit


YOU are using the liquidity injections as an indicator that things aren't ok

YOU ARE USING THE MARKET AS AN INDICATOR


Yea, I worded the OP crappily, thus the clarification. I solely meant that I don't understand how anyone can point at the market and say "See, everything is FINE!" - when it has been boosted by the Bank of China to the tune of 173 billion. The market is not a good indicator on the situation in China because it was artificially inflated.


It is if one "unpacks the market" instead of reading headlines.

Example, OPEC cuts production holding oil above US$50 as we will not quit production. China was a big customer and withered consumption levels.

So, byproducts of oil...I'll keep it simple for now, each barrel creates a waste if asphalt. Think of that, JP3 comes from less than 10% a barrel in US standards of purity, oil for your car, styrofoam, plastics, hydronic fluids on and on....loosing the industrial and resident consumption...

..is a damn indicator. Markets are emotional as real. This thing is real, we all know it, but look around and stop finger pointing.


mg






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posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:58 AM
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originally posted by: Pommer89
www.bbc.co.uk...

3rd confirmed uk

I said to myself last week 5 confirmed and I'll be going into hiding for few weeks


My threshold for panic is around 40-50 cases in the US.

Then its full prep mode.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 08:59 AM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific

originally posted by: Pommer89
www.bbc.co.uk...

3rd confirmed uk

I said to myself last week 5 confirmed and I'll be going into hiding for few weeks


My threshold for panic is around 40-50 cases in the US.

Then its full prep mode.

Especially if they are all clustered in an area near you.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:00 AM
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originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: butcherguy



All I said was that the government knows more than we do.


Do they really and if so who in the government? A lot of them have been busy with this impeachment diversion and the recent Iowa circus. The World Health Organization say they don't know where this is going and too much information to make any sense of it all.

Maybe a few on the approved list get a more accurate set of numbers like those that have slipped out on the official China website. But as everyone that works below them has the same set of tainted data as the public what can they really do about it?

I expect those that have watched this thread or been on the topic through other internet resources since it started has a better idea of the situation rather than those that rely on the fake stream media.


I can assure you that since January 9....... FEMA, DHS, and Homeland Security have been working around the clock on contingency plans. Most of the people I have been in contact with over the past month were glad to have the political distractions going on. It helped keep everything under the radar, so to speak.

There is real data that is being shared with those that need it. Among this data is the following:

15% fatality rate
Incubation up to 14 days
Virus can live on metal surfaces up to 21 days in the right conditions
High humidity is very helpful to containing the virus
Artificially created strand of coronavirus
Super Spreaders can be asymptomatic
Probably over 50 cases already in the US



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:02 AM
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Interesting........

In the UK we have only 4 (yes FOUR) hospitals with specialist units that deal with infectious disease outbreaks like this.

One near Liverpool, one in Newcastle, and 2 in London.

The first 2 cases from York were taken to the nearest facility, which makes sense, which is in Newcastle.

This one was taken to one of the ones in London.

Why is that I wonder?

Why take this new case on a much longer journey when supposedly the specialist Newcastle facility only has 2 patients.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:03 AM
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Looking for advice,

I have to take a trip from FL to NJ in either early March or Mid April.

Best transit route? Was going to fly but now I'm thinking I might just want to drive.

First airport is DAB, layover likely in ATL/CLT, end NWK. The layovers and destination airport is whats concerning me, our local airport while 'international' is a joke. Normal day check in and tsa takez appx 12 minutes (lol).



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: ragiusnotiel
Looking for advice,

I have to take a trip from FL to NJ in either early March or Mid April.

Best transit route? Was going to fly but now I'm thinking I might just want to drive.

First airport is DAB, layover likely in ATL/CLT, end NWK. The layovers and destination airport is whats concerning me, our local airport while 'international' is a joke. Normal day check in and tsa takez appx 12 minutes (lol).



I simply would refuse to go.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: tennisdawg





Virus can live on metal surfaces up to 21 days in the right conditions



Source? no way this was info you received for your project. So where is this coming from? Info wrs and Alex jones?
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posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:06 AM
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a reply to: Power_Semi

to be fair A) The Daily Mail is hot garbage and B) 3 people in an entire nation being ill isn't exactly a news story either.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:07 AM
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I hope if this goes down the path, here in the USA, of closing stuff down - First it is the banks ...... The people have bills to pay and we should not be under excruciating worry of losing our lives because of this, It would be unacceptable and un American to burden it's citizens in these times of global strife. Enact a EXTENDED BANK HOLIDAY and do it right. Military already has the power to take over public utilities ..... So if the SHTF lets see how this is handled ....



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:08 AM
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..is a damn indicator. Markets are emotional as real. This thing is real, we all know it, but look around and stop finger pointing.


You have more experience than me most likely, I'm only slightly aware of what you are talking about. : )

Not sure what you are saying though. All I was saying is that someone has been posting that the state of the market was proof that nothing all serious was going on. That positive activity was an indicator that the situation of the virus in China was being vastly overblown. And all I was pointing out is that China dumped 173 billion into their own faltering market. I don't care what the market looks like after, or the emotional state of investors - I'm just saying that China's actions belie the theory that positive markets means everything is sunshine and daises over there. Obviously that's not the case.



posted on Feb, 6 2020 @ 09:08 AM
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originally posted by: tennisdawg
Virus can live on metal surfaces up to 21 days in the right conditions
High humidity is very helpful to containing the virus
Artificially created strand of coronavirus


I was in NYC for the first time in over a decade last month. The first trip was pretty much there and gone, just a night (for NYE). This year was a weekend, so we got around more. Riding on the transit systems I was surprised that everything was stainless steel and not brass. I know stainless is obviously lots cheaper, but I had expected from a public health standpoint for a city that large and reliant on public transport to invest in brass simply for the antiseptic properties. Maybe in the future that will be a thing again.

The high humidity makes me even more glad we moved to Florida from Michigan. Not that MI doesn't get humid, but it's got nothing on FL!


And when it does become official, public knowledge that this is an artificially created strand, any idea what repercussions, if any China will face? (This thread updates too fast for me to keep up!)



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