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originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: ScepticScot
Only because there was no realistic chance of him becoming PM then.
Tony Blair was told in no uncertain terms that if he converted to Catholicism he would have to resign as Prime Minister.
One of the first things he did after Brown succeeded him was convert.
There is nothing written down to forbid it, but its still very much prohibited.
Besides which, the last thing this country needs is another privileged, entitled self-centred egotist who is as out of touch with the realities of the vast majority of people's lives as can be running the show.
8% is the current polling number for those wanting a second vote.
originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
8% is the current polling number for those wanting a second vote. Eight percent of the population are behind a vote and most of those were already remainers. There is another route and that is a Brexit that breaks ALL ties to the EU as it stands. Yes our laws are currently mixed in with the EU but for a short time we can stick to those laws and align our laws with the EU but with time we can continue to move on and allow us to move away from those laws. I'm annoyed that people seem to not realise that No Deal is an option which it is. 29th of March is fast approaching and if a deal cannot be done then we will leave on WTO rules, if people read enough from other sources other than the mainstream rules and government figures you'll see that we are quickly becoming prepared, trucks and lorries will still move with ease, licenses have already been granted and set up and have been for a few weeks, planes will still fly, EU members in the UK will still have their rights and so will the others, trade will continue because countries like France, Germany etc. have already said they would not break trading with the UK and would continue from the 30th it would just be on WTO rules, there would be no break in the supply train.
The plan is simple - We leave on the 29th and go onto WTO rules (which the rest of the world that's roughly 100 odd countries trade on already) and then open up trade talks with the EU just like we would with any other country. The reason I say this is because the EU is prepared to bend rules and break them or out right create rules to make free trade deals with the US, China, Canada etc. and yet are making it super hard to make a deal with the UK. The Irish Border is also a nothing burger, The EU said they will not build one, the Irish have said they will not build one and the UK government has said it will not build one. The EU has said it does not want to fall onto the backstop, the Irish do not want to do it either and neither does the UK, this is a pretend reason to try and over turn it.
Labour only voted it down because they are throwing everything at the wall to try and get a general election, the SNP want to stop Brexit or try to force a second independence vote (even though they want to stay with the EU which means they would have to reapply so they're going from one union to another where they have far less power meaning it isn't independence) at this point Parliament isn't doing what they were ordered to do and it's take us out not on a deal but take us out.
Personally I would love JRM as Tory leader, would pretty much guarantee the Torys loosing the next election unless Labour had someone totally unelectable as leader.
Business leaders are unanimous in their dismay at the vote and the prospect of leaving the EU without a deal.
I know she's a Tory but she does appear to be a bit more compassionate than your normal, run of the mill Conservative and she has a social conscience.....a rarity in Tories.
Vernon Bogdanor, the politics professor and constitutional expert, has told Sky News that he thinks tonight’s vote make a no-deal Brexit more likely than it was.
He pointed out that the Commons has already passed legislation saying the UK will be leaving the EU on 29 March. Holding a second referendum would be very difficult, he said, because the government would have to pass legislation, and Brexiters would “fight it tooth and nail”. He went on:
There are about 40 odd sitting days left till March 29. If no other statute is passed, we leave without a deal. I take the view ... that the vote tonight makes a no-deal departure more likely than a second referendum.
originally posted by: gortex
Sky reporting that up to 100 Labour MPs are to push for a second referendum tomorrow.
Labour calling for a vote of No Confidence in the government is a obvious as it is pathetic , a pox on all their houses.
originally posted by: angelchemuel
Hmmmmm.....posted by a Scottish friend of mine on his Facebook page.....
"THIS is pretty big.
The EU Parliament have a Petition Portal which allows EU members to start petitions related to important EU issues.
They have just allowed a new petition asking for EU Parliamentary support for Scotland which would allow Scotland to remain as members of the EU if we vote for Scottish Independence before the conclusion of the Brexit negotiations.
In summary - If successful, this petition would ALLOW Scotland to REMAIN IN THE EU regardless of Brexit (If we vote for Independence before its completion).
Register and Vote now if you'd like the EU to support an Independent Scotland being allowed to stay within the EU despite being "dragged out" by Brexit.
Out of the frying pan and into the fire.....how does remaining in EU grant Scotland its Independence pray tell??? I think I'm more Independent in my beliefs that Scotland can go it completely alone than some of my friends over the border who want out of UK but still tied to the sinking ship that is Brussels! It's a complete contradiction in terms!!!
I would love JRM as PM just for the banter we would get out of it in our part of the country buddy.
Exactly what Britain needs.
originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: ScepticScot
60% of Scots. I wasn't talking about a single country in the UK I was talking as a whole. It was all read through this morning and early this afternoon that's where I got the number from. It was by a Tory member on Skynews who said something along the lines: "There just isn't as high a number of people wanting a peoples vote as some believe. Less than ten (looked at something) 8 percent of people are for a peoples vote..."
originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: Cassi3l
Trade would continue.
The Doomsday predictions didn't work in 2016. They won't now.
The law says we leave the EU at the end of March.
Really, the Sky is not going to fall.
Britain managed to survive, you know, without Brussels for quite some time.
If May holds on, what will her next steps be?
She begins to dance around some form of plan B. May said she would immediately start talks with both Tories and people in other parties “in a constructive spirit” to seek a deal that could win the support of the Commons. Any ideas must be “genuinely negotiable and have sufficient support in this house”, she said, in a warning to MPs hoping to push a personal or unrealistic Brexit vision.