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The Bible is True

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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: AtomicKangaroo
a reply to: Barcs

Well like most churches/religions, there are different degrees of satanists.

I'll be amazed when a religion is formed where all the followers are in 100% agreement in the teachings.


While that is true, Satanists and devil worshipers are 2 completely different things, so I don't think it's fair to say Satanists worship the devil. Devil worship does reference Christian lore and makes Satan to be God, while Satanism is about giving into your inner inhibitions, indulgence and worshiping yourself as god. I don't think it's possible for a devil worshiper to be a Satanist and vice versa.




posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: TheTruthRocks
Q: Why are the faithful so bent on recruiting?


If you don't count the people emotionally predisposed due to indoctrination, then $$$ and monopoly on reproduction are the prime motivators.


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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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a reply to: spy66

Sorry was busy yesterday.

Here is a link to Talk Origins setting out how Genesis does not comply with the Big Bang theory.

www.talkorigins.org...

The creation account in Genesis 1 lists ten major events in this order:
(1) a beginning;
(2) a primitive earth in darkness and enshrouded in heavy gases and water;
(3) light;
(4) an expanse or atmosphere;
(5) large areas of dry land;
(6) land plants;
(7) sun, moon, and stars discernible in the expanse, and seasons beginning;
(8) sea monsters and flying creatures;
(9) wild and tame beasts and mammals;
(10) man. 


The real order is:
(1) a beginning;
(2) light;
(3) sun and stars;
(4) primitive earth, moon, and atmosphere;
(5) dry land;
(6) sea creatures;
(7) some land plants;
(8) land creatures and more plants and sea creatures;
(9) flying creatures (insects) and more plants and land and sea creatures;
(10) mammals, and more land and sea animals, insects, and plants;
(11) the first birds,
(12) fruiting plants (which is what Genesis talks about) and more land, sea, and flying creatures;
(13) man and more of the various animals and plants


Coomba98
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posted on Jan, 13 2019 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: Dr1Akula
Countless martyrs? 1st century? What a bunch of ridiculous lies! The christian percecutions lasted roughly 12years all together! One in 250Ad that lasted 2.5 years and one in 303ad that lasted 9 years!
Church was hyperbolic making things much more dramatic than they actually where!
Talking about a ridiculous number of martyrs while most of them outside the percecutions where merely criminals that deserved a punishment!
They wrote their fake history as the wanted!
But they never mention the violent persecutions of Pagans, heretics and Jews that lasted for many many centuries and where the worst times humanity ever had, percecuting among others science freedom, free thinking, education and logic!

I can deny his historicity, but point is that you can't prove it....

Iconoclasts where also christians so how I am one? They were accusing those christians worshiping Icons made of wood of Christ Saints etc, as idol worshipers, and they were right since clearly your god says do not worship idols!

How you dare say I am not ''purposed on truth'' just because I refuse to believe same lies?

Lastly Jesus left no words!!! All we have are some gospels from anonymous writers claiming to have being copies of copies of copies what the supposed Apostles originally wrote who supposedly were the followers of a supposed Jewish messiah who they claim was called Jeshuah!!! (Jesus is Jeshuah translated in Greek and not his original name)

There is too much assumtion going on to say that this supposed Christ (also a greek epithet) left some words he said to us!


Jesus had no ulterior motive. He didn't want authoritarian power, or money, so therefore he could speak the truth uninhibited. People died for his philosophy. The books still remain despite countless attempts to eliminate them. Sure you could try to argue he is not the first Son of God, but to argue his historicity has no merit.



Plato used myths to teach values virtues and philosophical truths! many centuries before christ supposedly copied him using his parables!
I know this cave myth very well but you should put yourself to the ones living in their cave (blind belief of christianity) ignoring attacking and persecuting others who tell them about the true world that exists outside their dogma!

There is no christian philosophy only christian dogma.
Philosophy really means friend of wisdom (literally) but christianity banned philosophical schools and persecuted philosophers saying there is no greater wisdom to be found than that of their god!
So you do not seek wisdom starting from scratch which is the essence of philosophy , you already have a given truth (Bible) and you try to fit everything in it! So I just proved you that christianity is not a philosophy.
But it did ''steal'' Aristotle's and Plato's concepts of morality, which were already popular in the Hellenistic schools that those that wrote the gospels obviously had study to....
Mind you that the gospels are written in perfect Greek language! There are no Aramaic copies anywhere to be found.So how could the uneducated supposed apostles write in perfect Greek? And how did they already knew about popular Greek writers? Which is obvious to a scholar studding the way the gospels where written!

Lastly the only one provoking Slavery among humans is your god and christ, Babylonian wasn't that bad, all the slander and defamation Jews have written in their bible for them is obviously them being bitter and buthurt because they were their enemies.

You can call it Great truth only talking to someone who hasn't read the bible
What you call as great truth is just immorality, unethicality, violence, barbarism, incest, slaughters, intolerance, bigotry, provoking killing and violence, misogyny, ignorance, illogical supernatural claims, superstitious and every other negative attribute that is the bible, And yes there are much much much better Truths than this abomination!


All the attributes you just described are the things people do falsely in the name of God. Jesus said turn the other cheek, so obviously anyone hell-bent on imperialist control is not practicing the Christian philosophy. If you were actually interested I could do my best to explain the different era of the old and new testament and how Jesus was the fulfillment of it, but you seem to only want to prove it wrong, regardless of any appeals to logic. I understand your frustration, I went through the same thing going through a hypocritical "religious" education system.

When you have pursued other avenues and realized them to be a dead end, consider reading the words of Jesus again.



posted on Jan, 14 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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Christians should really stop convincing the others that the Most High is real and that the Bible is true. You will not be successful. You will only waste your time debating for months or until your hair turns grey. Lol

You think going science will convince them? Creationist is a big joke. They think it can convince people of the truthfulness of the Bible. The science community will just make fun of you guys. Even if you won a debate through reasoning, do you think they will change their hearts and mind and suddenly be a Christian overnight? What a joke.

If Christ himself couldn’t convince people of his time even though he showed so many miracles, what makes you think you’re better than him?

Christians should just share the gospel as a witness to people that you have preached the word without so much convincing. If they believe, then good. If not, that’s perfectly fine. The important thing here is they heard it. At least you did your part. Don’t sweat it. Other than this, is just fueling your ego. Saving one soul is to your merit, for your praise. You made yourself to be the savior.

Remember, from the beginning, Jesus had more than 12 disciples. Most of them left, but 12 remained. This is because he had chosen them. Just as he had chosen the thief on the cross that barely knew him. Did he preach the gospel to him in 2-hour long sermon? Was he even disappointed that many left, but 12 remained?

If you can see the simplicity of things, you’ll free yourself the burden because it is only the Most High that enables men to believe him. He does the selection. When he selects you, he puts his Spirit in you to enable you to believe. Men, in his natural state, will never ever choose the Most High, even if you choke him with the Bible.

But, of course, you need to increase your membership for your knucklehead pastors. I just don’t trust these guys. But, Christians have put them on the pedestal thinking that since he is a pastor and an authority figure, he must be right and must not be questioned. Lol



posted on Jan, 14 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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Sure, just bring us a book written by Jesus himself, his own words by his own hand. If you can.



posted on Jan, 14 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: cooperton

All the attributes you just described are the things people do falsely in the name of God. Jesus said turn the other cheek, so obviously anyone hell-bent on imperialist control is not practicing the Christian philosophy.


Jesus also said I didn't come to bring peace but a sword and turn sons against their fathers and daughters against their mothers, He said those that won't accept my word will face the wrath of my father. that he will do to them things worse than what he did to Sodom and Gomorrah!

There are countless of orders in the Old testament by the prophets, to destroy pagan temples and statues and kill their priests, which was the reason of the pagan persecutions. tortures and destruction that followed after Jesus!
How about ''do not let a witch to live''? which was the reason for the witchhunt?

So as you see those weren't ''things people did falsely in the name of God'' those people were merely following god's orders! They just did what the bible asked them to!

As for Jesus he agreed with everything said and done in the old testament, since he said I did not came to abolish the law, and the prophets but to fulfill them , and he also accused some Jews for not following the old testament.

(I can find all the verses if you want) , but I am sure you know all about them if you have read the bible...)


Also saying ''anyone hell-bent on imperialist control is not practicing the Christian philosophy'' for what the evil the christian Emperors did, is somewhat heretic since for the church accepts these slaughter Emperors as ''Saints'' because of the power and glory they give to church and because they killed and destroyed the pagan ''idol worshiping'', ''demonic'' world.

I understand your good will and belief in the ''good hearted'' Jesus, And I respect that, but I used to be in your position (I was raised a christian in a strict christian environment) but after reading the bible and researching history I realized the hypocrisy of Christianity that invented a messiah for political reasons and created a new religion as a tool of manipulating their citizens. And everything I was taught was a lie!.

So how can I seriously read the words of Jesus again when I know for sure that they are all made up lies? That the only dead-end that doens't lead anywhere....

They invented everything, there is no historicity of Jesus and the acts of the apostles are all created myths, to portray a fake history of the christian church in the 1st century. Constantine made christianity what it is, his mother created the myth of the holy cross and build the so called tomb of Jesus 300 years after Jesus supposedly lived, Constantine killed his wife his father and sister and tortured and slaughtered thousands, but he is now worshiped as a Saint by christians!
All these to give some credit to their new religion! Nothing really happened as christianity teaches and all these can be proved by historical sources and existing (or non existing) archeological finds!



posted on Jan, 14 2019 @ 03:22 PM
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originally posted by: Dr1Akula

Jesus also said I didn't come to bring peace but a sword and turn sons against their fathers and daughters against their mothers, He said those that won't accept my word will face the wrath of my father.


Emphasizing the division he would cause between those enamored with the world and those enamored with God. To root out the deceptive lies we were taught growing up - your "Christian" up-bringing is likely no exception to this rule. Mine was probably worse, but that is just speculation. To blindly follow suit with our parents is to fall under the same misconceptions they fell for. Blind faith is only good if acted upon. Blind faith without action is essentially complacency, and it plagued, and continues to plague the world.

To pursue unbiased knowledge eventually lead me back to the transcendental Christian philosophy, unabridged by pastor bias and compromise. Don't let the hypocrites steal the keys to heaven from you.



So as you see those weren't ''things people did falsely in the name of God'' those people were merely following god's orders! They just did what the bible asked them to!

Also saying ''anyone hell-bent on imperialist control is not practicing the Christian philosophy'' for what the evil the christian Emperors did, is somewhat heretic since for the church accepts these slaughter Emperors as ''Saints'' because of the power and glory they give to church and because they killed and destroyed the pagan ''idol worshiping'', ''demonic'' world.


Jesus upped the standard of morality to not even contemplating sexual perversion, and to never hold a grudge or hate in your mind... So if anyone is trying to kill anyone it is safe to say they are not following the Christian philosophy.



As for Jesus he agreed with everything said and done in the old testament


Not true. He corrected various commands, such as changing "an eye for an eye", to "turn the other cheek".


he said I did not came to abolish the law, and the prophets but to fulfill them , and he also accused some Jews for not following the old testament.


He was the fulfillment of the Old Testament since he was the first born sacrificial lamb without blemish. Jesus nor God want any of the children to perish, but such is the gift and curse of free will.

Children deserve discipline. I know there is a pervading ideology today that everyone deserves a trophy and there should be no consequences for action, but that is total rubbish. When cancer cells arise in the body they are destroyed if the body wishes to remain healthy.



posted on Jan, 14 2019 @ 06:01 PM
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Children deserve discipline. I know there is a pervading ideology today that everyone deserves a trophy and there should be no consequences for action, but that is total rubbish. When cancer cells arise in the body they are destroyed if the body wishes to remain healthy.


What if the body has the power to generate "false flag" events such as attacking itself with cancer and infections to justify unethical measures in protecting and securing the organism at large? Like certain diseases do when the immune system malfunctions.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 12:22 AM
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I would think an all powerful God might bother to talk to his people now and then, maybe in a group? All at once? and not just to a single person here, another there, in secret. Isn't that called hearsay? Why do Christians get upset when Jews tell them what they have wrong about the Old Testament when they wrote the Old Testament? If we are as children in this Life, shouldn't our Lord TALK TO US rather than rely on a repeatedly translated group of stories written by different people at different times, including by people that never even met Jesus? Why, if there was only ONE Jesus, and ONE book, are there so many denominations, so many interpretations? If we can't even agree on what he is telling us, how clear are his desires being made to us in how to live our lives? Utterly ridiculous for an all powerful God to let us dangle like this, many suffering from birth (did they do something wrong? Life lessons? Lessons for the rest of us?) while we mill about arguing what he really meant in the Bible? Protestants, Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, and on and on and on...... can't all be right, but that doesn't mean they aren't all wrong either.



posted on Jan, 16 2019 @ 12:34 AM
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It's more about the context of what I was trying to get across more so than the literal interpretation of what I was saying.

Satanists, devil worshipers, Jews, Muslims, Christians etc. Point is all these different beliefs based on the same core 'THE BIBLE" and how is any one meant to know what the truth to it all is if there is any to begin with.

I guess I'd like it if people were a bit more clearer on which Bible, which God and which Jesus, they're talking about when they start spouting on about THE Bible, THE God, and THE Jesus, as the distinction matters to such discussions because a Protestant and a Catholic may both be Christians but they're not the same thing.




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