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Ukraine declares war on Russia

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posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 10:02 AM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: RussianTroll

Not going to get into details with you but the bible actually talks about the King of the North going down at the very end of the last days which is now and Russia. Not saying the USA will defeat them or NATO, but sometimes regimes fall if they are doing something God doesn't like.

You can read about in Daniel chapter 11
Here is the Russian version, I think you will need it......


Daniel Chapter 11 in Russian





We have a lot of Bible interpreters in Russia too. It is a pity that their only audience - nurses in psychiatric clinics)))




posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Again that's simply not true. you have the Russian Orthodox Church which predates the Soviet Union.
It's sad I need to educate you on your own country.

Russian Church

They have

Bishops 368
Priests 35,171 priests + 4,816 deacons
Parishes 34,764
Monasteries 926



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: RussianTroll

Again that's simply not true. you have the Russian Orthodox Church which predates the Soviet Union.
It's sad I need to educate you on your own country.

Russian Church

They have

Bishops 368
Priests 35,171 priests + 4,816 deacons
Parishes 34,764
Monasteries 926


Oh really?)))
Tomorrow, after the liturgy in my Temple, I will tell this truth to Orthodox Christians - the parishioners)))

We do not engage in meaningless deeds, like the eternal multiplication of 2 by 2. The Holy Fathers have long given canonical comments and interpretations to both the Old and New Testaments. Those individuals who, in their pride, consider themselves equal to the Holy Fathers, are patients of psychiatric clinics in Russia)))



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

I think something got lost in translation here......may I ask what Russian translation of the bible do you use then ?

I forgot Russians are super finicky and picky on their translations of the bible, the Russian Synodal Version (RUSV) is the officially acceptable version for the country.

So here it is again
Russain Synodal Version

Read it some more I don't think Jesus advocated military action on fellow Christians just because they lived across a geographical line, Russian Christians killing other Christians isn't very nice, is it?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
a reply to: RussianTroll

I think something got lost in translation here......may I ask what Russian translation of the bible do you use then ?

I forgot Russians are super finicky and picky on their translations of the bible, the Russian Synodal Version (RUSV) is the officially acceptable version for the country.

So here it is again
Russain Synodal Version

Read it some more I don't think Jesus advocated military action on fellow Christians just because they lived across a geographical line, Russian Christians killing other Christians isn't very nice, is it?


Okay, I'll have a Bible seminar with you.

Since you are an American, you have the Bible of King Jacob. This is an English translation of the Judean Masoretic text of the 10th century AD. By this time, the Masoreans had copied the existing scrolls of the written Torah and the rabbis had burned the originals. So you have a translation from the Hebrew text of the 10th century AD.

Liturgies in the Russian Orthodox Churches follow the Catherine Bible - translated into the Church Slavonic language of the Greek Septuagint by the king of Egypt, Ptolemy, the most ancient text of the Old Testament that has come down to us - 3 centuries BC.
The first attempt to translate into Russian was made by the Russian Bible Society, a branch of the London Bible Society, during the time of Emperor Alexander I. The translation of the Old Testament was made on the basis of the Masoretic text. But the Emperor ordered the company to disperse, and all transfers to burn. After 2 weeks, he died and the masonic uprising of the Decembrists began.
The second translation attempt succeeded under Emperor Alexander II, again on the basis of the Masoretic text, but with parallel passages from the Septuagint. Since the discrepancies in the number of poems, their content and dating were very large. Over time, the editions of the parallel sites simply disappeared, and now the Synodal Translation is being published only on the basis of the Masoretic text. But he is only for home reading as information. It does not apply to temples, seminaries and academies, nor universities.

The Catholic Bible, the Vulgate, was based on a translation from the Septuagint into Latin. But after the Second Vatican Council of 1962-65, the Vulgate was re-translated, but already from the Judean Masoretic text.

There is also the Protestant Scofield Bible. But this is generally a complete initiative, does not hold water.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 11:49 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Look out for Ukraine. I dont know much about the disposition of their armed forces, though I imagine they would get their ass handed to them.

Do they even have any military equipment that they didn't already sell to the Chinese for cheap? LoL

Crazy times.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
This is a very dangerous situation that could lead to war, if that British ship gets attacked, NATO and the USA are bound to react with equal force.

To RussianTroll

There are millions of Ukrainians spread around the world, not just in the Ukraine.
So you are either full out trolling to be a fool or a liar full stop.

Locations

Go take your Russian propaganda or your trolling somewhere else, ATS is too smart for your ilk.

PS: Now I see why Canadians love Pierogies; look at how many are in Canada.......


personally, i'm trying not to take sides here. i find your hypocrisy amusing though. how was it?


originally posted by: Blue_Jay33
Russian Christians killing other Christians isn't very nice, is it?


while Americans killing everyone, regardless of religion, are doing it in God's name, right?

what is that British ship doing there exactly?
what are western special forces doing in Ukraine?
if the west doesn't want a war, why does it keep searching for it?

and why is he not allowed to present his own opinion here - because he's Russian? he's trying to have a decent discussion, despite all the slander, and presents some interesting facts sometimes. sure, he's provoking you, but as i see it there's no nefarious motive behind it. it's just the way he is.

can we just respect each other as human beings for once?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:26 PM
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Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:33 PM
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originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Only with his people



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:36 PM
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originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Ukraine cannot wage a war against Russia. This is stupidly simple fact. Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.

I do no know why the americans and russians, are against each other to bgin with. Reasearch via ww1 and ww2...



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:48 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.
edit on 12/22/2018 by EternalSolace because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))


Enjoy your loses... the F-35 is here to stay and is the current and prevelent destroyer of everything off the ground that anyone can throw at it.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:09 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))


Enjoy your loses... the F-35 is here to stay and is the current and prevelent destroyer of everything off the ground that anyone can throw at it.


Мы наслаждаемся вашей напыщенностью и самонадеянностью)) Когда такие глупые враги - победа будет быстрой и легкой)))



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))


Enjoy your loses... the F-35 is here to stay and is the current and prevelent destroyer of everything off the ground that anyone can throw at it.


Мы наслаждаемся вашей напыщенностью и самонадеянностью)) Когда такие глупые враги - победа будет быстрой и легкой)))


Once again, stupidity in the Russia vs US crowd. We, together, destoyed NAZI germany. Why we aren't together now is #ing political bull#.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:13 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))


Enjoy your loses... the F-35 is here to stay and is the current and prevelent destroyer of everything off the ground that anyone can throw at it.


Мы наслаждаемся вашей напыщенностью и самонадеянностью)) Когда такие глупые враги - победа будет быстрой и легкой)))


Once again, stupidity in the Russia vs US crowd. We, together, destoyed NAZI germany. Why we aren't together now is #ing political bull#.


I agree with you. Fully, respect!



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))


Enjoy your loses... the F-35 is here to stay and is the current and prevelent destroyer of everything off the ground that anyone can throw at it.


Мы наслаждаемся вашей напыщенностью и самонадеянностью)) Когда такие глупые враги - победа будет быстрой и легкой)))


Once again, stupidity in the Russia vs US crowd. We, together, destoyed NAZI germany. Why we aren't together now is #ing political bull#.


I agree with you. Fully, respect!


Can you imagine what nasa and russion cosmonauts could come up with?


Like really.....




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