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Ukraine declares war on Russia

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posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Veryvery
Difficult to say whether Ukraine is able of managing to wage any war at the moment...


Russia, even with their s300 and "scary" s400 missiles, cannot defend against american f-35 jets. This is also fact.



Why, then, after the appearance of the S-300 in Syria, the Israeli F-35s do not fly?))


They do... just neither side wants to admit that the f35 has a free pass to lala land.


I do not know about other parties, but the Russian military and specialists simply laugh at the F-35, the cost of the program, and especially over 1000 fundamental problems and permanent breakdowns. F-35 flies the same way as Gerald Ford and Zumvolt float))


And they will continue laughing until they're wondering why they can't get an aircraft off the ground let alone an anti ship/aircraft missile off the ground. Let alone why their own anti aircraft are shooting themselves out of the sky...

The F-35 not only stole their lunch, but kidnapped the lunch makers, and threatened the lunch makers suppliers into submission.

Only a trifle remains - to see the F-35 within reach of the C-300, C-400, C-500, Su35 and Su-57))


Enjoy your loses... the F-35 is here to stay and is the current and prevelent destroyer of everything off the ground that anyone can throw at it.


Мы наслаждаемся вашей напыщенностью и самонадеянностью)) Когда такие глупые враги - победа будет быстрой и легкой)))


Once again, stupidity in the Russia vs US crowd. We, together, destoyed NAZI germany. Why we aren't together now is #ing political bull#.


I agree with you. Fully, respect!


Can you imagine what nasa and russion cosmonauts could come up with?


Like really.....


Space, unfortunately, is almost the only area where we are partners.

If still not a small hole in the lining of the ISS))))))
And here came the policy (((

In Russia, they joke that the American woman astronaut was offended by the crew because men do not give her an excuse to join the #MeeToo, decided to run away from homophobic men more quickly, drilled a hole in the Union, threw her OB with a tampon to quickly evacuate to Earth)) )
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posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 01:55 PM
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Ukraine will never declare war on Russia. In response to this conflict most of the world looks on through peak-a-boo facepalms while Britain still thinks its an Empire for some reason...
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posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 02:51 PM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
We, together, destoyed NAZI germany.


Bearing in mind for the first two years of WW2 (yes, before the US joined) the Russians were allied to Nazi Germany. They conspired to calve up eastern Europe. Russia took the Baltic States, tried to invade Finland, took half of Poland etc... Russia has always been belligerently expansionist, and the last two decades are a proof in point.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Ppl if the Ukraine wants to go to war with Russia why does everyone think we going to help way I understand nasto charter you get help from NATO countries if you are attacked not if you are the aggressor. Did we help UK during Falkland war ?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 05:16 PM
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Is this the real deal because it feels like saber rattling... where in the article does it say they are going to war?



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: JourneymanWelder
Is this the real deal because it feels like saber rattling... where in the article does it say they are going to war?


It's not real. The OP is based on fantasy. Ukraine is not going to declare war on Russia, but contrary to the OP has a right to fight the violent Russian-backed separatists in Dombas. Dombas being a part of Ukraine that Russia is trying to destabilise, presumably so they can add it to their illegally annexed Crimea.



posted on Dec, 22 2018 @ 09:56 PM
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a reply to: proteus33

NATO doesn't give a damn. Ukraine isn't a NATO member.



posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 12:57 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: EternalSolace
We, together, destoyed NAZI germany.


Bearing in mind for the first two years of WW2 (yes, before the US joined) the Russians were allied to Nazi Germany. They conspired to calve up eastern Europe. Russia took the Baltic States, tried to invade Finland, took half of Poland etc... Russia has always been belligerently expansionist, and the last two decades are a proof in point.


Even first-graders do not comment on such nonsense here)))

The troll is written in my nickname, I see you have a primitive trolling

Russians know who is leading Ukraine.


Joe Biden in the chair of the President of Ukraine heads the government of Ukraine. In the red circle - the president of Ukraine

As for the Russian people of Donbass. They are the last defense of the world from the Nazi government of Ukraine, which made the SS colonel's birthday a national holiday.

In the Donbass, ordinary Russian people, miners, taxi drivers, metallurgists, fermers, clerks, engineers, and teachers fight against the Nazi gangs that "bring democracy to them."


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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 02:28 AM
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originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Ppl if the Ukraine wants to go to war with Russia why does everyone think we going to help way I understand nasto charter you get help from NATO countries if you are attacked not if you are the aggressor. Did we help UK during Falkland war ?


Yes. The US did assist U.K. forces in the Falklands War. Maybe google before you post?

Link

Also, Ukraine is a NATO “aspiring member.” This is the last step before first membership. Ukraine already is working in partnership with all NATO allied nations.

Ukraine is a strategically important partner. The west would most definitely intervene at this time if Ukraine sovereignty were threatened. Russia knows this. Russia fears a stand up fight with even Battle Group Poland; let alone actual US or U.K. direct intervention.



posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 02:28 AM
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Oops


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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 02:42 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: EternalSolace
We, together, destoyed NAZI germany.


Bearing in mind for the first two years of WW2 (yes, before the US joined) the Russians were allied to Nazi Germany. They conspired to calve up eastern Europe. Russia took the Baltic States, tried to invade Finland, took half of Poland etc... Russia has always been belligerently expansionist, and the last two decades are a proof in point.


You mean that time when US companies and such were selling lots of stuff to Germany until they were forced to stop because it became very obvious they could not anymore because the US had to go against them? I guess they were all cool before that until they were attacked too, lol

Let's talk about rewriting history and those who can't figure out one from the other LMFAO!
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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 02:50 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: RussianTroll
When Ukraine and the Crimea were part of Russia, the first American president did not take the oath yet


You are making no sense. Ukraine is not part of Russia and Crimea has been illegally annexed. Back to the point; Donbas is part of the sovereign nation of Ukraine, so how can Ukraine declare war on Donbas?


The Russians have a proverb: “How much do not shout“ sugar, sugar ”, they won’t be sweeter in the mouth)) What about Alaska and Hawaii? And Fort Ross also return)))


I don't think you should say things like this, it makes you brag as well, which you should not. No cheap talk, leave that to others

Also, to show more knowledge of American way use LOL instead of ))), just as well since they expect respect as we do

But what the hell i can possibly know, just saying man, not my fight anymore
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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 03:01 AM
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originally posted by: BoneSay

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: RussianTroll
When Ukraine and the Crimea were part of Russia, the first American president did not take the oath yet


You are making no sense. Ukraine is not part of Russia and Crimea has been illegally annexed. Back to the point; Donbas is part of the sovereign nation of Ukraine, so how can Ukraine declare war on Donbas?


The Russians have a proverb: “How much do not shout“ sugar, sugar ”, they won’t be sweeter in the mouth)) What about Alaska and Hawaii? And Fort Ross also return)))


I don't think you should say things like this, it makes you brag as well, which you should not. No cheap talk, leave that to others

Also, to show more knowledge of American way use LOL instead of ))), just as well since they expect respect as we do

But what the hell i can possibly know, just saying man, not my fight anymore


Regrettably, I have to say such things to cool American hotheads and lovers of double standards. The Russians were convinced of one truth: the West understands only the language of force. All this talk about democracy and human rights is needed only to come to us, kill our people and take our wealth. The West is to blame. 25 years ago, the Russians still believed the West. Not now.
We would be happy to be friends, communicate, visit each other, respect each other. But we understand that only our strength is a deterrent against war. If we had no power, we would have been destroyed long ago.
Sorry, this does not apply to ordinary people with whom we want to live in peace.

Imagine the situation that Russia achieved the collapse of the United States into separate states, the Russian vice president sat in the chair of the president of Pennsylvania, created the Nazi government there, which began to fight with Virginia and Washington DC? Can you imagine that? However, this is what the US does in Russia
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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 03:16 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: BoneSay

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: RussianTroll
When Ukraine and the Crimea were part of Russia, the first American president did not take the oath yet


You are making no sense. Ukraine is not part of Russia and Crimea has been illegally annexed. Back to the point; Donbas is part of the sovereign nation of Ukraine, so how can Ukraine declare war on Donbas?


The Russians have a proverb: “How much do not shout“ sugar, sugar ”, they won’t be sweeter in the mouth)) What about Alaska and Hawaii? And Fort Ross also return)))


I don't think you should say things like this, it makes you brag as well, which you should not. No cheap talk, leave that to others

Also, to show more knowledge of American way use LOL instead of ))), just as well since they expect respect as we do

But what the hell i can possibly know, just saying man, not my fight anymore


Regrettably, I have to say such things to cool American hotheads and lovers of double standards. The Russians were convinced of one truth: the West understands only the language of force. All this talk about democracy and human rights is needed only to come to us, kill our people and take our wealth. The West is to blame. 25 years ago, the Russians still believed the West. Not now.
We would be happy to be friends, communicate, visit each other, respect each other. But we understand that only our strength is a deterrent against war. If we had no power, we would have been destroyed long ago.
Sorry, this does not apply to ordinary people with whom we want to live in peace.


We have done our thing too, don't say no

Most country in the world rotting right now in the old ways and their own filth. I suffer for our own just like you do, i don't belong anywhere anymore, i'm just moving around in the world and when you do you figure out how different things are from what you use to feel and think

Everything goes in a different way after you can see the world all around, meaningful things from before are now just memories, some good some bad, but i don't follow anymore, i was born in such a time i can't get you, even if i love you because i know you mine own people as well, and i stand by you but i will also say what i think is wrong for everyone not just you




русско-американский здесь

No order no alliance, don't judge, i love both, just will never stop saying what i feel, no one stops me

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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 03:50 AM
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originally posted by: BoneSay
You mean that time when US companies and such were selling lots of stuff to Germany until they were forced to stop ...

Let's talk about rewriting history and those who can't figure out one from the other LMFAO!


1. Yes, the US played their neutrality in WW2 quite well; and profited from it.
2. It's not rewriting history. The Russians and Nazis formed a pact in 1939 to mutually expand their territory - they were allies working together.



posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 04:01 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: BoneSay
You mean that time when US companies and such were selling lots of stuff to Germany until they were forced to stop ...

Let's talk about rewriting history and those who can't figure out one from the other LMFAO!


1. Yes, the US played their neutrality in WW2 quite well; and profited from it.
2. It's not rewriting history. The Russians and Nazis formed a pact in 1939 to mutually expand their territory - they were allies working together.


The USSR and Germany signed a non-aggression pact in 1939. Moreover, the USSR was the last and the European countries signed a similar Treaty. Before him, in 1938, Western countries signed an agreement with the Nazis in Munich for the sake of one goal - to direct the Nazi aggression to the East. After the Munich Treaty, the Nazis seized Czechoslovakia and Austria. And along with the Nazi troops, the Polish army invaded northern Czechoslovakia. The Poles with the Nazis then were one army. The USSR in 1939 regained its western lands, which Poland took from him in 1920.
"Russians always come back for their money" Bismarck.
In the Baltics, the legally chosen parliaments of the countries absolutely legally voted and themselves decided to join the USSR. There are all the documents, all the facts, absolutely everything. It was the will of their peoples, who greeted the Red Army with glee. There are millions of photos.

And only the Nazis, as you are now, argued that this is an occupation. Are you a Nazi?



posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 04:14 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: BoneSay
You mean that time when US companies and such were selling lots of stuff to Germany until they were forced to stop ...

Let's talk about rewriting history and those who can't figure out one from the other LMFAO!


1. Yes, the US played their neutrality in WW2 quite well; and profited from it.
2. It's not rewriting history. The Russians and Nazis formed a pact in 1939 to mutually expand their territory - they were allies working together.


Your history, as you know it, is fake

You were told what you needed to know, to keep you under control, you have no clue about the real stuff

Most people in the US think the US soldiers got Berlin first and that they won the war with no help, they don't have a clue. Learn real history, that did not happen at all

WWII did not end because of the atomic bomb lol, it had ended before that, the US killed lots of people just to test their bombs and show a real world scenario for the rest of the world and gain power, nothing more than that, look it up lol

The ward ended because mostly Britain and the Soviet Union defeated Germany, that's all. The US gave support, for sure, but so did lots of other countries which are never mentioned in history because it was rewritten for your benefit. The US did not win it the war.

And even after the atomic bombs Japan was still fighting, they did not gave up, they did surrender when they learned Russia was about to go invade Japan, since they had already defeated Germany and the only remaining enemy was Japan, that's when they surrendered, not as soon as the atomic bombs went off as most Americans think.. Stop making a shame of yourself and read a real history book with facts, not USa propaganda
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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 04:47 AM
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originally posted by: BoneSay
Your history, as you know it, is fake


Oh, the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact was fake? The Soviet Russian attack on Finland and the over running of Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian was fake? The invasion of Poland and the joint victory parades with the Nazis were fake e.g. at Brest-Litovsk. The fact the Gestapo and the NKVD working together as fake? The invasion of parts of Romania were fake? The various documented atrocities committed by the Russians e.g. at Katyn were fake?

All the above done hand in hand with the Nazis. It is not fake history. The Russians and and Nazis worked together in the first two years of WW2.

PS I am not American.



posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 05:06 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: BoneSay
Your history, as you know it, is fake


Oh, the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact was fake? The Soviet Russian attack on Finland and the over running of Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian was fake? The invasion of Poland and the joint victory parades with the Nazis were fake e.g. at Brest-Litovsk. The fact the Gestapo and the NKVD working together as fake? The invasion of parts of Romania were fake? The various documented atrocities committed by the Russians e.g. at Katyn were fake?

All the above done hand in hand with the Nazis. It is not fake history. The Russians and and Nazis worked together in the first two years of WW2.

PS I am not American.


LMFAO!

As said, you are not aware of forgetting on purpose, the war was equal, everyone made their own crap out there

So you state where you are from as well, i don't care, if you already said you not American so say where you are from

You can know where i'm from easily by looking at my profile and intro thread, if you can't spend a minute on that so be it

Here's a list of things the US did not get charged for in ww2, just because turns out the "winner" gets to write the history books, in case you did not know

The Laconia incident

The illegal submarine warfare they did all through

The Canicattì murdering that was uncovered way later because everyone pretended to know nothing about it

Biscari mass massacres

Operation Teardrop, we all know about that one as well

Dachau liberation murders, have you heard about that one?

Audouville murders

Rhine murders, when the soldiers were told to kill on sight no matter what, even if enemy was surrendered already

And what about this, how come about 13,000 thousand woman from britain, france and germany were raped by US soldiers? Let's talk about that?

And it is well known the US soldiers killed prisoners of war just as well as any German would kill otherwise, so stop pretending it did not was the same lol.

Everyone had their own shame to hide but who wins in the end or fakes the win gets to write the history book

Where are you from?

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posted on Dec, 23 2018 @ 05:11 AM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: BoneSay
Your history, as you know it, is fake


Oh, the Molotov Ribbentrop Pact was fake? The Soviet Russian attack on Finland and the over running of Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian was fake? The invasion of Poland and the joint victory parades with the Nazis were fake e.g. at Brest-Litovsk. The fact the Gestapo and the NKVD working together as fake? The invasion of parts of Romania were fake? The various documented atrocities committed by the Russians e.g. at Katyn were fake?

All the above done hand in hand with the Nazis. It is not fake history. The Russians and and Nazis worked together in the first two years of WW2.

PS I am not American.


So you are not American))) And how do you feel about the fact that it was the Russians who liberated Jews from the Polish Nazi concentration camps and saved the lives of millions of Jews?
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