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Democrat party collapse

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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:10 AM
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I have been wondering why a political party would seem to be so bent on suicide. Here is a pretty interesting article from the WAPO in 2015 that has graphs showing the move away from the Dems since 2008.

www.washingtonpost.com...

So in consideration of definitive data that confirms my subject, I think there are two reasons. The first reason is the Obama effect. What happened when Obama was elected was that many people within the party that had hidden their more radical ideas felt that they were now free to pursue them. It was the moment that all closeted communist in the USA were finally allowed to breath and speak with confidence that the tide had finally turned and that history was finally on their side. This in turn has driven away many independent minded people who previously leaned Democrat because "they are for the little people". That was the biggest myth the Dems had going for them since Woodrow Wilson. And whether you want to believe it or not, cultural Marxist thinking has destroyed that because now independent people think that the Democrats "are for minority groups and nothing else."

The second reason is that the DNC and all of its arms completely controlled legacy media. Because of this they were naturally geared to still messaging on these media outlets. I don't think anyone could have foresaw how that would be almost completely decimated by now. I am making an estimate that almost 100% of all people under 30 get their news from alternative sites. There is almost no way to govern that. I do believe that is why we are seeing censoring on Twitter/Facebook/Google, etc. This is an attempt to seize control of the narrative. Unfortunately this is also seen as a very naked power grab and is disliked when done so obviously by the American public (with the exception of hard left individuals - they love it). Regardless of who does or doesnt like it, it is just another sign that the DNC and its tendrils are rapidly contracting.

Question is, will it last until it is dead? If it does die will the Socialist Democratic Party take over? If not will there soon be 3 parties in the USA thus almost guaranteeing Republican control for at least one generation (or maybe a half)?
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edit on 21-9-2018 by Fools because: date to data


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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:17 AM
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With the way the Dems are acting, the blue wave they keep claiming is coming will just be a little ripple in the ty-d-bowl.

But don't worry, the GOP has a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
edit on 21-9-2018 by Bluntone22 because: Spelling



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:26 AM
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Jacking up everyone working who pays their own medical insurance (most do now since its to expensive for companies to offer as a benefit) to 200+ a no th for a single person and 5000+ deductible just to use it was kind of signalling the end



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: Fools
Don't think it's suicide it's the Death throes of the old deep state...



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:42 AM
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I'm in my 50's. My parents, were democrats. I have always leaned to independent.

My father especially, would be throwing things at his TV, watching the 2 year old tantrums that the dems are throwing every single day.

I've watched the dem party dissolve into this state, over my life, and just look at the current state of affairs in regards to money in the bank. The RNC has the DNC on the ropes.

That senate race in Texas proves the tale. And the DNC is going ape-crap over it.

Honestly, once the charges start coming out on what the deep state dems have done, the DNC is gone. All support will evaporate, especially from the independents.

Trump has played this hand flawlessly.

Fred..


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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:42 AM
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Democrat party collapse

Would be the best thing that ever happened since the constitutional convention.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: Fools

Sadly, what will happen is that the demorats will become republicans and continue their agenda.

Just under a different banner.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: Fools

It happened in 1968. That led to Nixon (6yrs), Reagan (8yrs) Bush (4yrs) and Ford 2yrs ( appointed ) becoming president . With the exception of Carter (4yrs) The Republicans were in power for 20 years .

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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: manuelram16
a reply to: Fools
Don't think it's suicide it's the Death throes of the old deep state...



Ummm...so your saying...the deep state...are leftist actors attempting to bring down our Constitutional republic...and supplant it with a Marxist ideologic utopia in their own image...?

Interesting...very interesting indeed...





YouSir



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
Democrat party collapse

Would be the best thing that ever happened since the constitutional convention.


Seeing how in victory in Obama they went full tilt into Nazi methodology Identity Politicks, and they rioted to get Hitlery elected, imagine what they'd do if they were truly beat...


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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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Fear not. Neither the Republican or Democratic parties are going anywhere. They need a two party system so the "other guys" get blamed for the bad things both parties want. If there was only one dominant party who would they blame for bailouts or patriot acts or wars or debt or anything else that the American people don't want but politicians do?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:52 AM
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They'd lay on the ground whaling like babies, screaming rape.

Until they get snip slapped.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 11:53 AM
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This is why they want more illegal immigrants to flood in.
And they want them to vote.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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Everybody screaming "but the 2 party system" needs to explain why no other parties are running anywhere ?

435 House elections and 35 Senate elections in 2018.

Where are any "3rd" party candidates running if it's supposed to be so popular?

💥🙈💥



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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2010 they lost the House
2012 they lost the Senate
2016 they lost the White House
2018 they are just simply lost

See a pattern? I sure do. More like a blue drought than a blue wave.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:31 PM
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Sure almost everyone gets heir news from alternative sites, but the conservative alternative sites that are not viewed as 100% shill conspiracy sites are few and far between..

Republicans are the older demographic still watching Fox News..


The gop has rarely won the popular vote in the last few decades..


Hell, they couldn’t even win the popular vote against Hillary Clinton, who no body actually wanted.. no body..

So I think you may be mistaken thinking that the gop is in the lead...

The average American voter isn’t a conservative and doesn’t agree with the conservative narrative.



The Democrats are the younger demographic who long ago swapped to various other sources..

That is why Fox News has better ratings..all the younger generation swapped away from the 24 hour cable news sources.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: Fools

It happened in 1968. That led to Nixon (6yrs), Reagan (8yrs) Bush (4yrs) and Ford 2yrs ( appointed ) becoming president . With the exception of Carter (4yrs) The Republicans were in power for 20 years .


Only in the executive branch with occasional control of the house or senate but never both at the same time - until I think one of GW's terms.

The most important loss is their loss in state races. That is where it is the most obvious.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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Nice thread. S&F.

You've brought to light many things. Democrats, or should I say progressive liberals, have single handedly pushed moderate democrats to the right. They've sided against common Americans. Celebrities have sided against us, major news organizations have sided against with the exception of Fox News, which they call propaganda, tech companies have sided against us. If standing against America in the NFL, which killed their ratings, wasn't enough and stations like ABC, NBC, and CBS being highly mistrusted, and Hollywood going downhill wasn't enough, they decide to focus solely on minorities while pushing whites aside, they choose illegals over American citizens, and they double down on their double standards after they've blown both feet off.

The radicals are finding a home in socialist ideals like Ortez, ideals that will attract radical progressives in NY and CA but nowhere else. Liberals are sticking to their wacky ideals by electing people like Waters and Pelosi, and normal democrats that voted for Obama in round 1 have all slowly began exiting stage right. The party is dying because of their own rhetoric and they're still doubling down on what is pushing so many of their own away. They're too focused on anything and everything anti-Trump to notice that they're committing political suicide. It's actually become fun to watch this karma unfold.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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As much as some might like to think the Democrat Party is soon to be extinct, I honestly don't think that's going to happen.

If you want to consistently defeat the Democrat Party, the ploy would be to support the Democrat Socialist party as they will steal votes away from the Democrat Party much as Bernie Sanders did in 2016.

My thinking, and I certainly could be wrong, is that the Democrat party actually "can't" collapse because its the go to political party for the wealthy, well educated Elites on the Coasts where, at least as far as the cities are concerned, the Democrat party is the only functioning party with the Cities having become near unto One Party City-States while at the same time, the footprint of those cities is so huge that they've overwhelmed the rest of such states such as California which is now, for all practical purposes, a One Party State.

Once a jurisdiction such as a City=State or a State becomes a One Party jurisdiction, it becomes near impossible to ever again wrest control from that political party and create a situation where elections are again competitive because............that Party has near exclusive control over the elections.

In truth we are not witnessing the Death of the Democrat Party, but rather, we're watching the Death of the Democratic Process and the Institutions of Democracy.

Democracies die by suicide. They degenerate into Plutocracies, then to Oligarchies and then into Totalitarian Dictatorships. To understand where we are now see:en.wikipedia.org...


A plutocracy (Greek: πλοῦτος, ploutos, 'wealth' + κράτος, kratos, 'rule') or plutarchy is a society that is ruled or controlled by people of great wealth or income. The first known use of the term in English dates from 1631.[1] Unlike systems such as democracy, capitalism, socialism or anarchism, plutocracy is not rooted in an established political philosophy. The concept of plutocracy may be advocated by the wealthy classes of a society in an indirect or surreptitious fashion, though the term itself is almost always used in a pejorative sense.


What you have in the US is a melded Plutocracy ruled over by wealthy individuals and Super Wealthy Corporations.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: Artemis06
a reply to: Fools

Sure almost everyone gets heir news from alternative sites, but the conservative alternative sites that are not viewed as 100% shill conspiracy sites are few and far between..

Republicans are the older demographic still watching Fox News..


The gop has rarely won the popular vote in the last few decades..


Hell, they couldn’t even win the popular vote against Hillary Clinton, who no body actually wanted.. no body..

So I think you may be mistaken thinking that the gop is in the lead...

The average American voter isn’t a conservative and doesn’t agree with the conservative narrative.



The Democrats are the younger demographic who long ago swapped to various other sources..

That is why Fox News has better ratings..all the younger generation swapped away from the 24 hour cable news sources.






Since you are most likely a democrat, I am assuming that you haven't looked at any actual graphs of what I am talking about. probably just polls. If polls were correct, no Republican would hold a national office practically anywhere. And yet they now hold majorities practically everywhere.



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