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Democrat party collapse

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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:37 PM
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a reply to: Fools

You mean like the recent Virginia state elections? The ones where the Democrats made the biggest gains of either party in state history? Those state races?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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The hard data shows that the Democrats have higher voter enthusiasm (an 80% retention rate compared to the Republicans' 50% retention rate) and are overperforming by 17 points on average.

That doesn't seem like a party on the verge of collapse.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Fools

You mean like the recent Virginia state elections? The ones where the Democrats made the biggest gains of either party in state history? Those state races?


The Browns won a game last night. Still doesn't make them a good team.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:44 PM
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I've no doubt that the infection will spread to encompass the Dems completely.

Infact, we can already call it the Socialist Democratice Party.

For all intents and purposes, seems like its the best way to describe them in such a manner.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:51 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Fools

The hard data shows that the Democrats have higher voter enthusiasm (an 80% retention rate compared to the Republicans' 50% retention rate) and are overperforming by 17 points on average.

That doesn't seem like a party on the verge of collapse.


Would you care to share this HARD DATA? Or are you talking about polls? Polls by their nature are flawed for many reasons.

I think the real HARD DATA, the internal DNC polls have them thinking about running to the hills. Maybe someone willing to die by shotgun to the back of the head suicide would be willing to share them with us?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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It's probably best to just leave them to their back patting. You aren't going to convince them of anything. Plus, these threads are damaging to their cause. By disregarding the signs on the wall and posting threads like this, they are breeding complacency in their base. Complacency results in less votes at the polls come election time since the people think everything is fine and dandy. So, as far as I'm concerned, let them sing and dance about how there is nothing to worry about. The wake up call will be all the sweeter when they finally have to face the music.
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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: Artemis06

Mob Rule isn't healthy.

🙅



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Fools

I'm talking about the results of things like special elections. Are election results hard enough data for you?



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Fools


Yep..a slow train wreck. Some of the keener members are seeing it, and leaving the party. #WalkAway.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Fools

You mean like the recent Virginia state elections? The ones where the Democrats made the biggest gains of either party in state history? Those state races?


Still doesn't match up to the humiliating 1000 seat loss the left had.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: Fools

I agree, but back then they practiced a strategy that no longer occurs to anyone .

Bipartisanship



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xcalibur254

It's probably best to just leave them to their back patting. You aren't going to convince them of anything. Plus, these threads are damaging to their cause. By disregarding the signs on the wall and posting threads like this, they are breeding complacency in their base. Complacency results in less votes at the polls come election time since the people think everything is fine and dandy. So, as far as I'm concerned, let them sing and dance about how there is nothing to worry about. The wake up call will be all the sweeter when they finally have to face the music.


I hate to let you on to something. I see less complacency among the base now than I did prior to Trump. The face that the Democrats have shown since then has quite simply irritated far more people than you are willing to understand.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: Artemis06
a reply to: Fools

Sure almost everyone gets heir news from alternative sites, but the conservative alternative sites that are not viewed as 100% shill conspiracy sites are few and far between..

Republicans are the older demographic still watching Fox News..


The gop has rarely won the popular vote in the last few decades..


Hell, they couldn’t even win the popular vote against Hillary Clinton, who no body actually wanted.. no body..

So I think you may be mistaken thinking that the gop is in the lead...

The average American voter isn’t a conservative and doesn’t agree with the conservative narrative.



The Democrats are the younger demographic who long ago swapped to various other sources..

That is why Fox News has better ratings..all the younger generation swapped away from the 24 hour cable news sources.






She had more popular votes than any election besides 2008. Republicans aren't going to win the popular vote as long as California stays blue. The most populous state's most populous cities all heavily lean democrat, and New York is right there with them.

Anyways, without California, Trump wins the popular vote.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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Oh definitely I believe EVERY word you are saying. Uh huh. Exactly. Yep yep.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:18 PM
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The actual numbers aren't showing that. Even in special elections, which have a notoriously low voter turnout, the Dems are averaging 80% retention rate compared to what they had in 2016. The Republicans are barely managing 50%. We can also look at new people registering to the parties and the Dems are outpacing the Republicans by a fair amount.

Like I said, when you start looking at the hard data it paints a much different picture than the common narrative being pushed on ATS.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
But don't worry, the GOP has a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.


I honestly don't know whether to laugh or cry at how true that statement is.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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I think you're right OP. The Democratic Party is committing suicide. It's all corporate/establishment candidates who are lawyers, bankers or were born rich. The actively push away the far left base. They take a left/liberal stance and either make it a bit weird and too far or one of the senior party members makes a nonsensical statement. The push away any real candidates that could either unite the party or get people on the left fired up like Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard. Instead of trying to reconcile with the Green party, they treat them like a cancer.

To be fair the Republicans are dying a slow death as well and we can say many of the same things. Most of the republican top candidates are again, lawyers, wall street bankers or were born rich. They can't relate to us. Trump was a bit of an outsider, but again he was born rich and many of his friends are wall street bankers. So he's not really as independent/alternative as he'd have you believe.

And again, the Republican party distances themselves from true conservatives like the constitution party and libertarian party. They often times come across as insensitive to women's issues and minority issues, and don't stand for stereotypical conservative positions any more like smaller government and less taxes.

It's going to be a slow death for both parties but if Trump wins again in 2020 and the liberals aren't excited about a strong candidate that everyone can get behind, like Trump was to the republicans/right, then they will probably self implode sooner.

But, why do we keep only calling out one party on ATS? When we know both parties are full of Lawyers, wall street bankers, crooks and incompetence? I thought we were smarter than that here?
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posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:33 PM
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But, why do we keep only calling out one party on ATS? When we know both parties are full of Lawyers, wall street bankers, crooks and incompetence? I thought we were smarter than that here?


I would have to say that a decent number of up and coming (definitely on the state level) Republicans are not lawyers or bankers.

As far as the new left goes, I see that as well. There is definitely a push to get regular citizens in the law making loop. Which on whatever side is a good thing for that side. Less lawyers will hopefully lead to less laws. Maybe not, but there is always that hope.



posted on Sep, 21 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: Fools

The actual numbers aren't showing that. Even in special elections, which have a notoriously low voter turnout, the Dems are averaging 80% retention rate compared to what they had in 2016. The Republicans are barely managing 50%. We can also look at new people registering to the parties and the Dems are outpacing the Republicans by a fair amount.

Like I said, when you start looking at the hard data it paints a much different picture than the common narrative being pushed on ATS.


Please produce these actual numbers.



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