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"In god" or "in a god" ? I only ask because some members have some very bizarre statements . They seem to feel a need to create a cartoon like character doing very silly things in the sky in order to justify why they don't believe there is a god . Maybe its their way of creating the simple straw-man argument in order to make it easy for them to tear it down . Maybe they would be called baby Atheist just taking baby steps .
I was pretty clear. There is no atheist bible, etc. Atheists get their moral beliefs, etc from places other than atheism. The ONLY common shared trait between atheists is that they don't believe in god. That's it. I'm a little lost as to what the purpose and point of your post is.
That may be true in some cases but its not a universal thing by far . In a lot of cases a university plays a roll to prepare people entering the field . A Church structure will vary a lot . You will see similar structure across many churches belonging to a same denomination but even that can vary . Few denominations even have a "priesthood" like you might see with the RCC or Eastern Orthodox .
The priesthoods, especially Judea/Christians claim their authority to rule over the masses, is given to them by "God".
If you don't believe in God/higher power, then your morals are completely subjective and you have as a meaningless singular soul have no authority to tell another person your subjective morals are better than theirs.
Gee I never though of it that way . I have always took my own position about stuff is to know what I believe and why I believe it . Taking that "why" part out would make it much simpler to defend their position in their own mind because they would never ask themselves that question.
Why they don't believe is also not relevant.
That may be true in some cases but its not a universal thing by far
In a lot of cases a university plays a roll to prepare people entering the field
I was fortunate like so many more Christians who fell into the "Bad" category . God loves both good and bad but His main focus is on us bad folk . I guess He loves a challenge also .
There are good people who believe in God and good people who don’t believe in God. Same same. Makes no difference.
Well any Bible teacher worth his salt will tell you that every member of "The Church" is a Priest . If ever member is a Priest then what would be the need to artificially produce a Priesthood ? You might want to refer to the "gifts" section of the New Testament . Being a Priest is not one of the gifts ... Ephesians 4:11-16 King James Version (KJV)
Yes it is.
Having a "lack" of belief does not mean there is "no" belief . The word "lack" could mean a insufficient amount of belief in order to be convinced further . I sometimes get the impression that Atheist are actually crying out for help with their unbelief .
Atheism isn't a group, it isn't a club, it isn't anything but a word that simply means "the lack of a belief in a god or gods."
originally posted by: jjkenobi
Yes, a thread where all the low IQ ATS posters can come bash religion and an argument made by someone 10x smarter than them. Hooray!
It's not a difficult concept to grasp. If you don't believe in God/higher power, then your morals are completely subjective and you have as a meaningless singular soul have no authority to tell another person your subjective morals are better than theirs. Therefore they are free to act on their own subjective morals as they wish.
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: the2ofusr1
Judea/Christians claim their authority to rule over the masses, is given to them by "God".
Non belief is not faith. No matter how many times you say it. I don’t believe in dragons. Is that faith?
originally posted by: the2ofusr1
a reply to: Woodcarver
If Atheism is a lack of belief in a God and not a belief that there is no God then we both measure out world view with faith . More or less Lacking something doesn't mean you have none it just means you lack enough to be sufficient .
At least you admit that believing in God’s makes no sense. That is why it requires faith to believe in.
1 Everyone must submit to governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have been placed there by God. 2 So anyone who rebels against authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and they will be punished.
What is a soul? And please explain, in detail, how you know? Because, i was under the impression that it has never been seen or tested. Only claimed to exist. But since you know so much about them, maybe you could show us all your work?
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: jjkenobi
Yes, a thread where all the low IQ ATS posters can come bash religion and an argument made by someone 10x smarter than them. Hooray!
It's not a difficult concept to grasp. If you don't believe in God/higher power, then your morals are completely subjective and you have as a meaningless singular soul have no authority to tell another person your subjective morals are better than theirs. Therefore they are free to act on their own subjective morals as they wish.
Ouch!!!
A meaningless singular soul?! Wow.
I was raised an atheist by my father, and yes, I have had doubts about his soul, but that was just because he was an ass at times.
I didn't start believing in something else until strange experiences that couldn't be explained, started happening when I was 13. Because I was taught that way until then.
So until I was 13, my soul was meaningless?!?
No soul is meaningless, and looking at both religious and non religious people, no one has a monopoly on morals