Millions Of Kids Might Lose Health Care Because Congress Dropped The Ball

a reply to: LSU0408

Trepublicans Said they are going after cutting Medicare and soc sec. next. Wouldn’t adding 9 million kids expand it? I’m all for it while trepublicans are in a debt jubilee mood.

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: LSU0408

Trepublicans Said they are going after cutting Medicare and soc sec. next. Wouldn’t adding 9 million kids expand it? I’m all for it while trepublicans are in a debt jubilee mood.

Where is this being "said" and by who exactly ?

It's not in the tax bill is it ?

originally posted by: knoxie
now people will use emergency rooms for care and those of us with health insurance will be paying. isn't that socialism?

my worry is that hospitals will stop treating people who don't have insurance or the money up front.. anyone else worried about this?

No, they will get care if its public, but if its private and not an emergency they can deny you. I dont see anything wrong with that for non emergency situations.
law.freeadvice.com...

Privately-owned hospitals may turn away patients in a non-emergency, but public hospitals cannot refuse care. Public hospitals, funded by taxpayer dollars, are held to a different standard than privately owned for-profit hospitals. This means that a public hospital is the best option for those without health insurance or the means to pay for care.

a reply to: eNumbra
You want to exploit kids in labour like 3rd world countries do now? Way to go for progress lol
I'll try to imagine you are joking but sadly you are probably not.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: eNumbra
You want to exploit kids in labour like 3rd world countries do now? Way to go for progress lol
I'll try to imagine you are joking but sadly you are probably not.

I think he meant older kids like teenagers, who it is socially acceptable and common to have a job outside of school hours.

No need to jump to such conclusions as he wants child labour for pete's sake

originally posted by: Butterfinger

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: eNumbra
You want to exploit kids in labour like 3rd world countries do now? Way to go for progress lol
I'll try to imagine you are joking but sadly you are probably not.

I think he meant older kids like teenagers, who it is socially acceptable and common to have a job outside of school hours.

No need to jump to such conclusions as he wants child labour for pete's sake

Why are you replying for someone else? You are making your own assumptions as well unless you can read minds?
He celebrated "little hands" building America and last I checked most teens hands are not little.

a reply to: xuenchen

Do you ever listen to what your elected officials say? If not, then I’m not helping your lazy butt out.

Sounds like parents need to step up and do their jobs not the government.

a reply to: Willtell

Isn't FREE Healthcare considered an Entitlement ? Nothing in Life is FREE.............Break that News to them Kindly .

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: xuenchen

Do you ever listen to what your elected officials say? If not, then I’m not helping your lazy butt out.

Looks like some long term "cuts" were established in 2010 !!

Ryan also pledged that Congress would waive a mandatory $25 billion in Medicare cuts next year under the 2010 Statutory Pay-As-You-Go law. The law calls for mandatory spending cuts if the deficit reaches a certain threshold, which federal estimates show the tax reform bill would do.

However, the cuts can be waived if Congress agrees to it. So far the law’s cuts have been waived 16 times.



Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2010

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: eNumbra
You want to exploit kids in labour like 3rd world countries do now? Way to go for progress lol
I'll try to imagine you are joking but sadly you are probably not.

You think I’m being anything other than satirical?

a reply to: LSU0408

not all children can use medicare, only those who are disabled?? think you mean medicaid?

as far as I know, not all children can use medicaid... only those of poor parents, or those who are in the foster care system. chips offers discounted or free health insurance for children. it's income guidelines are a tad bit higher than it would be for if the family was applying for medicaid..
the only gripe I have had about chips is that it seems to have the tendency to extend help to the children while it could possibly leave the stay at home out in the cold.
while of course, dad can get his healthcare with the help of his employer...
constitutionally speaking, we should all be treated as equals under the law... so how is it that the gov't can pick one section of the population and say that their interest in that section's health is higher value than another?
I know that most of us can justify this position in a logical manner but I don't believe it can be justified constitutionally.

a reply to: xuenchen

Hot doggie. This is great news too. See, I told you when pay fors and deficits don’t matter, good times for all Americans. I love it when repubs kick the deficit hawks to the curb.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: eNumbra
If they don’t like it they should pay for healthcare.
If they don’t have money they should get jobs.

Freeloading scum.

The children are not freeloading scum.I would be ashamed if my country denied children healthcare because of their parents economic circumstances.
I am glad I do not live in your nation.

Nobody will deny a child healthcare. That's what medicare is for and all children are able to use it. I'm glad you don't live in my nation, too, we have enough uninformed people as it is.

I was only going by the OP claims.If no child suffers then I'm happy.
My point stands regarding your countryfolk in this thread who object paying taxes for poor kids pretty inhuman.The number of people who agree is another reason I wouldn't want to live in your country.

You're misinterpreting the message. But to each their own.

a reply to: eNumbra

I'm unsure because you seem to be screw the poor kids, personal responsibility and all, but now you say it is satire.I guess its just the nuances of communication are more challenging in a text only medium.

The whole story is bullcrap.

Andrew Montoya, 35, of Longmont, Colorado, got a letter from the state government last month notifying him that his three daughters ― Audrey, 8, Katrina, 5, and Scarlett, 3 ― might wind up uninsured because of Congress’ inaction.

“They need to stop playing politics with our kids,” said Montoya, an attorney at an organization that provides assistance to people with disabilities.

Oh, I get it now.

a reply to: LSU0408
Why are you replying for someone else as well?
I was and am only interested in the response of the person I originally replied to but thanks anyway.

originally posted by: MiddleInsite
a reply to: dragonlover12

Personal responsibility isn't the issue. These kids are not responsible for their parents. If the parents are not responsible, then screw the kids? If that's what you think, just say it plainly and out loud. But remember, it's the kids health that we are talking about. Not the parents character.

The old "it takes a village to raise a child" argument. Basically saying everyone else should help pay for my kids doctor and hospital visits. The taxpayer is already subsidizing their education but apparently that's not enough. If you can't afford to raise children don't have them. It's called personal responsibility but I suppose since bankers and government officials don't abide by it you shouldn't either, right?

originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: LSU0408

Trepublicans Said they are going after cutting Medicare and soc sec. next. Wouldn’t adding 9 million kids expand it? I’m all for it while trepublicans are in a debt jubilee mood.

What is a "trepublican"? I believe you said yesterday that you're 68, I expect a little more maturity than these unwitty names.

Other than that, I haven't heard anything about what you're saying. Did you read about it in Mother Jones or Think Progress?

a reply to: [post=22973415]LSU0408[/post

Sorry.

I didn’t read it anywhere. Every week day there are interviews on cspan with congress.