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What happened when factory jobs moved from Warren, Ohio, to Juarez, Mexico

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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:41 AM
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In a nut shell, the company that was picked is Delphi automotive- the jobs that left the US used to pay good wages. Now they are in 3rd world countries and pay $1 an hour and this is a poverty wage.
People who worked in the US had a middle class life-people in Mexico have to ride to work in unheated buses and live in violence filled cities.
The differences in the Laid off Delphi workers and Mexican Delphi workers lives couldn't be more difference.

As has been said in the past, when jobs move to Mexico, the workers get to work in the state of the art factory and sleep on the road.


Money never used to be a problem for Wade, 47, who owned a house with a pool back when he worked at Delphi Automotive, a parts manufacturer that for years was one of the biggest employers in this wooded stretch of northeastern Ohio. But 10 years after taking a buyout as part of Delphi’s ongoing shift of production out of the United States and into Mexico and China, the house and the pool were gone.


Delphi now pays $1 hour when they used to pay $30 an hour. There is no home ownership, or middle class being created in Mexico from these jobs going there. The only thing created is huge savings (profits) for Delphi.


Lopez earns $1 an hour assembling cables and electronics that will eventually be installed into vehicles — the same work that Wade once did for $30 an hour. A farmer’s daughter who grew up in an impoverished stretch of rural Mexico, Lopez is proud to own a used Toyota sedan and a concrete block house.


Living in abject poverty is part of a Delphi Mexican workers life.

www.latimes.com...
Berta Alicia Lopez, 54, is the new face of Delphi. On a recent chilly morning, she woke before sunrise on the outskirts of Juarez, Mexico, and caught an unheated bus that dropped her an hour away at the Delphi plant.

Lopez earns $1 an hour assembling cables and electronics that will eventually be installed into vehicles — the same work that Wade once did for $30 an hour. A farmer’s daughter who grew up in an impoverished stretch of rural Mexico, Lopez is proud to own a used Toyota sedan and a concrete block house.




posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: seasonal


Live less than an hour from Lordstown, and yes, no one wants to talk about how that effected the area and businesses that served as support to GM. Delphi workers took a HUGE hit!



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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a reply to: seeker1963

NAFTA is capitalism at it's worst.


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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:50 AM
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Warren used to be a really nice city, now it's pretty much a dump. Globalism is really hurting the American worker, which is why Trump is now President. Whether or not he can do anything to fix the problem remains to be seen, though I don't think there's much that can be done against the power of the globalists.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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When the President thinks the only way to save these jobs is with a magic wand this is what you get ...



"Those jobs of the past are just not going to come back," Obama told Cottonham.

Instead, Obama advised workers losing their jobs to learn how to adapt their skills to "some of these new technologies," in particular, the "clean energy sector."

What magic wand do you have?



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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a reply to: TruMcCarthy

The only thing that will do the trick is a tariff system. This is a scary thing. Corp Capitalism seeks profits at all costs and it will find a way to exploit a tariff.

Are delphi products more affordable, or is the stock valuation better?

If this isn't taken care of legislatively, then the SJW's (silly name) will have to take this on. But it will be for reals-ees.


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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 10:57 AM
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What happened when Delphi Automotive factory jobs moved from Ohio to Mexico

Delphi Automotive stock prices went up ... I told you to buy Delphi Automotive



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:01 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Let me see if I understand,

You are saying that Barack (can't say his middle name) Obama gave up and didn't even try? But wants the workers to modify their skills to jobs that change every 6-12 years?
Maybe this is why Obama didn't do sh to change NAFTA even though he said "we gotta do something about that" (during campaign).

Or is there other reasons Obama didn't lift a finger to change NAFTA?
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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

That's what he said. He said learn a new skill, because the only way to keep the jobs here is with magic.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

The world has changed since NAFTA was signed back in 1990.


Mexico taking U.S. factory jobs? Blame robots instead

...manufacturing is still flourishing in America. Problem is, factories don't need as many people as they used to because machines now do so much of the work.

America has lost more than 7 million factory jobs since manufacturing employment peaked in 1979. Yet American factory production, minus raw materials and some other costs, more than doubled over the same span to $1.91 trillion last year,... a notch below the record set on the eve of the Great Recession in 2007. And it makes U.S. manufacturers No. 2 in the world behind China.

...General Motors, for instance, now employs barely a third of the 600,000 workers it had in the 1970s. Yet it churns out more cars and trucks than ever.
Or look at production of steel and other primary metals. Since 1997, the United States has lost 265,000 jobs in the production of primary metals -- a 42 per cent plunge -- at a time when such production in the U.S. has surged 38 per cent.
Allan Collard-Wexler of Duke University and Jan De Loecker of Princeton University found last year that America didn't lose most steel jobs to foreign competition or faltering sales. Steel jobs vanished because of the rise of a new technology: Super-efficient mini-mills that make steel largely from scrap metal.

The robot revolution is just beginning.



Rise of the machines: Fear robots, not China or Mexico

To be sure, America has lost a lot of jobs to trade, but robots threaten many more traditional, assembly line jobs. There are nearly 5 million fewer manufacturing jobs today than there were in 2000.

...One study by two Ball State University professors found that between 2000 and 2010, about 87% of the manufacturing job losses stemmed from factories becoming more efficient. The chief driver of more efficiency in factories: automation and better technology. The other 13% of job losses were due to trade.




posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: soficrow

Agree there is a automation component to this. The $1 in Mexico job is still very real, and there are plenty of these jobs that have gone bye bye to 3rd world hell holes.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: soficrow

Yes, there are other factors. That doesn't mean you should give up like Obama did. It means you need to work for both the current generation losing jobs, and the future generation who will inherit a different economy.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: seasonal

This is just about the only thing left that I have any hope at all President Trump will change.

We need to give incentives for companies being here and employing our country, and we need to make it too painful to do otherwise.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:54 AM
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It is almost as if people believe we are doing the Mexicans a favor by putting these factories down there and paying the people peanuts. We are enslaving their people to work for a non living wage. The Democrats seem to approve of this, it is not treating the people there with respect at all. But at least they get some income to survive.

Those cheap parts seem to gain a lot of profits when they hit the USA. Then they fail shortly, not because of the workers or technology, but because of the intended failure built into them. It is harder to build things with planned failure than to build them correctly, with twenty cents more materials in a fifty dollar part.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 11:57 AM
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only way to keep the jobs here is with magic


you need to transition over too some Voodoo.... stop the high calorie hotdog diet and transition to bread and water, then use the pennies you saved to buy Delphi Automotive....


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posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: FHomerK

We are a a pivotal point here. Corps have no home, they have no family, they have no nationality, but are people.
There is only one thing they are meant to do, create profit at all costs.

The corps get together at the g 20 summits and tri lateral and others. This is all designed to make a concerted effort to make gains what ever their hidden goal is.
We still have the consumer market to force change, will we?


We need to give incentives for companies being here and employing our country, and we need to make it too painful to do otherwise.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Agreed, Corps care only for the profits. Tariffs are the only big stick that will get their attention.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: seasonal

I thoroughly agree.

And that's why we need to wage a war of profit on them as a nation.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: FHomerK

Do you mean to expose the conditions at the mexican plants?

Or do you mean showing the harm caused by the Corps never ending quest to grow and gain market share and profit?

Oh this is what the free press is supposed to be doing, this is why corps should NOT own the media.



posted on Feb, 19 2017 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: rickymouse

Agreed, Corps care only for the profits. Tariffs are the only big stick that will get their attention.



Do we want tariffs placed on US products? I don't; It will only encourage skyrocketing inflation. You want that?

Want to prosper in the 21st....speculate. It's a global free market economy; if you are unable to understand it or to lazy to learn...who's fault is that?

Large scale mfg. will never return. We need to concentrate on agriculture.
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