Tehran - Mega Capital of Iran - Photo Album (Bush doesn't want you to see this side of Iran!)

You sound as if these photos are taken by the Iranian governments ministry of propaganda, not an independent web site that has photos from all around the world. Which looking at my own city on that site does reflect what an average day in the city looks like.

[edit on 31-1-2005 by Trent]

Originally posted by Leveller
But in return there are millions of pictures of atrocities committed by the Iranian regime.
Can you deny that?

Yes I can, because I've not seen those "millions" of pictures.

The fact is that a photograph is only a small captured image of a subject. Just outside of frame is something else. That something else can be entirely different and give a whole new meaning to the photograph.

There are hundreds of pictures and it pretty difficult to be selective when you show hundreds of square miles of urbanized expanse. The pictures are from an independent web site, that has pictures from the entire world. This is no propoganda, just facts.

Arguing on the basis of a photograph is useless. It is meaningless. A photograph only captures an image. It doesn't capture substance.

What it captures speaks for itself. The cafes, malls, subways and those modern people walking about exist, and even those women protesting on the streets are real. The meaning that this has, is the all the propoganda we see on western media of extremism, barbarism and Islamic fundamentalism are bogus.

he US or Iran could print millions of albums of smiling or crying faces. But what is the story behind those faces? A photograph on it's own certainly won't tell you.

Yet, what is more important here is not the actual smiling faces, but the fact that there is modern infrastructure and modern facilities for the Iranian people. That certainly does not suggest a country bent on destruction of the west, especially when it espouses a lot of western concepts in it's modern culture and architecture.

[edit on 31-1-2005 by Indigo_Child]

Originally posted by LordBaskettIV
I saw a documentary on Iran that was done by PBS(in the last 6 months),and it was about the over deforestation and desruction of natural resources(like forests).They seem to have a large divide in thinking between the young who enjoy the beauty of the forests,and mountains and the older goverment officials want to westernize at the expense of the natural surroundings.In every shot of Tehran(sp) the smog was sooo thick that mexico city looked good.The film makers interviewed alot of the younger people and they talked alot about going to the mountains on the weekend just to escape the bad smog and smell.They also talked about the population getting to big,too fast as alot of people didnt have jobs, or very low paying jobs because of the surplus of workers.If there are bad people(like terrorists) in Iran, I would suspect they are in outlying areas and not in the very moderate thinking larger citys.I hope we dont go into Iran myself.Although I found the documentary to very enlightening, thier youth(20-30) is alot like us americans,they dont want war or the goverment officials that act like warlords.Some of the pics that have been show here dont have the level of pollution in tthat seems to be present in tehran today(or the wind must have been strong that day).

Yes, it is true that Iran is faced with a multitude of social, economical, cultural and political issues. But I think it's normal for a country like Iran to go through the phase it's going through right now. Especially after the tumultous modern history of Iran which is plagued with the interference and mischievous schemes of the British, Russians, and the U.S. finally leading up to the revolution of 1979. If Iran is left alone, I can assure you that it will become one of the leading cultural and scientific centers of the world. While PBS, like so many other western media outlets, show all the negatives they NEVER show the positives. The positives are that Iran is totally independent today, unlike their neighbors who are forced to rely on primarily the U.S. for virtually everything (The way the U.S. wants it) And Iran is rapidly and against all odds marching forwards industrially, culturally, scientifically and economically. Iran is becoming more and more self-sufficient in almost all fields, and this is what really makes the U.S. mad as hell, because the U.S. wants to turn this incredibly rich country into a major, huge shopping mall where they can sell their products and services, including nuclear fuel at an extremely high cost. Iran has instead on one hand established firm cultural and economical relations with China and India - The two fastest growing economies in the world, and is in the process of doing the same with EU. Iran is also becoming an active exporter of its industrial products and of its growing technological know-how to third world countries in Asia and Africa. The Iranian defense industry has become virtually self-sufficient, and Iran mass produces today its own missiles, tanks, fighter-jets and other weapons. Many mostly third world countries have expressed an eager interest in purchasing Iranian made weapons because of its rather good quality and low cost.

There will naturally be problems such as what PBS reported - We have also seen the same kind of problems in China for instance. But because of the increasingly giant steps taken in self-reliance and the progress in the fields of science, industrialization, infrastructure, economy, cultural activities and tourism, I'm confident that most of Iran's current problems will be solved in the long run.

Iran is not what the U.S. and Israel has tried to picture it to be. Iran is a very peaceful country and unlike the U.S. and Israel, Iran does not have an expansionist agenda of any sort. The major goals of Iran is to become a highly and fully developed independent and largely self-reliant country, while safeguarding its ancient culture and civilization and its spiritual, moral and ethical values from the brutal intrusion of an increasingly poisonous so called "popular culture" exported from the U.S. to every corner of the world in an attempt to superficially "cloning" us all into small Americans no matter where we live so that they can easily sell us their products and turn us into heavy debtors like they have done with their own population. This "popular culture" is plagued with traits such as greed, arrogance, decadence, selfishness, agressiveness, deceitfulness, violence and moral corruption of all sorts.

Iran is not Afghanistan or Iraq. It would be a GRAVE mistake by Israel and the U.S. to fire even one bullet in our direction. The only way to find out just how grave would be to try!

If there's any attack on Iran it will be an airstrike on the mullahs and nuclear labs only and then the people will take over the government. They'd be grateful.

Originally posted by Trent
You sound as if these photos are taken by the Iranian governments ministry of propaganda, not an independent web site that has photos from all around the world.

Nope. What I'm saying is that you cannot base an opinion solely on a photograph. It doesn't matter who took it.

I'm not really sure what these pictures are supposed to convince me of.

I DO know that my Father travelled to Tehran and other parts of Iran many times and that there was always some sort of tragedy surrounding his visit. The last time he was there the people that he was going to meet with were taken to a rooftop and assassinated right before the meeting. My Father was unexpectedly picked up, escorted to the airport and flew home without his luggage.

Beautiful buildings and modernization does not mean much of anything.

Jemison

Originally posted by Trent
You sound as if these photos are taken by the Iranian governments ministry of propaganda, not an independent web site that has photos from all around the world. Which looking at my own city on that site does reflect what an average day in the city looks like.

[edit on 31-1-2005 by Trent]

These pictures have nothing to do with politics. They're just conveying the message that there is an entirely different Iran than the one which Western media always shows to the world. In no way could they be made by a supporter of the Islamic Republic since the sister page "Amazing Iran" contains many flattering pictures and remarks on the shah and empress Farah Diba - the enemies of the revolution. Most of the pictures of Tehran show the affluent and middle class districts of Tehran.

Originally posted by Leveller

Originally posted by Trent
You sound as if these photos are taken by the Iranian governments ministry of propaganda, not an independent web site that has photos from all around the world. Which looking at my own city on that site does reflect what an average day in the city looks like.

Nope. What I'm saying is that you cannot base an opinion solely on a photograph. It doesn't matter who took it.

I never said anyone should but on the other hand why not have a look at them if your like me and you have never seen what Iran looks like from the sky or the ground? I come here to get information, any and all is welcome and when all the information is put together it will hopefully improve my understanding of things.



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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
Why would Bush not want us to see these pictures? Like Bush controlled the Media anyway

CNN, NBC, ABC is right in Bushs pocket

Irans got some nice modern buildings wow welcome to the 20th century.


Whats with this picture though I have to ask

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Isnt propecia they stuff to make you grow hair? Ironic that the distributor is bald.

Iran has actually been in the 20th century as far as having modern buildings, institutions and infrastructure for much longer than most people would believe.

Originally posted by Nygdan
What aspects is bush supposed to be trying to supress here? No one actually pretends that the whole contry is mud dwellings and run down farms.

Bush and his fellow evangelic new borns and their newly found friends - their zionist buddies and their Hollywood friends wants the world to think that Iran is a backwarded taleban-style country, with barbarian and violent citizens who yearn for Christian/Jewish/American blood. As a matter of fact Bush is so arrogant and uneducated, as is Ms. Rice, that they most surely might believe that that's what Iran and Iranians are like. Only a person who has lived in Iran can fully inderstand the disgust and outrage Iranians feel about the movie "Not Without My Daughter" Filmed in the run-down quarters of Ramallah in what was Israel, and with dark-skinned pakistanis who had learnt 2 or 3 Farsi words which they were yelling like crazed psychoes over and over. Ofcourse Bush doesn't want you to see these pictures, because he and his fellow fanatic crusaders and the zionists don't want the population of the U.S. in particular and the world in general to know that there is another form of Islam than that of the backwarded Pashtun and Arab wahabi cavemen in Afghanistan - An Islam that embraces progress, technological and cultural advances. Wasn't it after all thorugh the Muslims that the sciences of Astronomy, physics and mathematics made it to the west? Most foreigners who visit Iran for the first time are usually always astounded to find a country and a people so very different than their stereo-type image in the West.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Just to also note, Afghanistan, before the jihadi anti-communist war and the wars after it, was supposed to also be a very beautiful and well built country.

Afghanistan was and still is a very beautiful country. However, it had a very primitive infrastructure and not much at all to show as far as cities, education, industry, political institutions, etc. Before the Soviet invasion it was a totally untouched country - remote from the modern world. And look what the super powers have done now. I'm afraid that their problems have just started though. The U.S. does not understand other cultures, and especially ancient cultures. It has no respect for such things. It therefore thinks that it can just come in bomb the place to dust - creating so much pain and grief in the lives of millions of people, and then start imposing its own style of living on everyone. It's not that simple Sam!

Originally posted by Nerdling
I can't see the pictures

I've heard parts of Lebanon are also quite beautiful.

After the mess, after all the blood shed and perhaps a devastating third world war - I hope that Hillary Clinton will become the presiden of the new America. An America that very well may not be a super power anymore, but an America which respects the rights of the citizens of this world to pursue their lives in peace.

Originally posted by Trent
I would hate to see it get turned into rubble

Don't worry! It won't! Iran has some 6000 long range Shahab-3 missiles dispersed throughout Iran, directed towards Israel. Iran has an Iranian made mobile and most flexible radar system which will be very hard to detect and target. One shot by Israel or the U.S. and they will see fire works in Tel Aviv that they have never seen before!

Siroos must either work for the propaganda department in Iran or must be the most brainwashed person on Earth.

Originally posted by FLYIN HIGH
It appears that Tehran has been busy lately. With all the new construction, its very possible that they may be building with more security in mind as to being protected from a nuclear blast which would be coming their way if they were to do something to the Jewish state.

8 Nuclear bombs with a capacity to ruin an entire big city disappeared from the former Soviet republics and are unaccounted for - mostly from Kazakhstan. A friend of mine whose close relative has a high position in the Iranian intelligence told me that he has assured her that Iran has obtained most of these bombs. That would explain Tehran's confident attitude towards the U.S. and Israel. Being that Israel is such a tiny country - perhaps not much bigger than Greater Tehran.... It would be much easier for Tehran to finish off Israel than it would be for Israel to do with Iran.

It'd be a shame to see a conflict result because of their stupid leadership. If you google on the phrase "destruction of israel", you'll find many extracts of speeches made by their government in just the last four years.

If Iran fires so much as a firecracker at Israel, Israel will respond with a nuclear attack.

Originally posted by djohnsto77

Originally posted by Souljah
hmmm...
i was just "replying" to the post from mister djohnsto77, who posted pictures from 40 years ago in iran, so that was my answer to that "public lynch".
ofcourse i was being sarcastic.
me dont like ignorant KKK, dont worry....

Deny Ignorance! Iran is still stoning people, and carrying out other public executions.

[edit on 1/31/2005 by djohnsto77]

So Iran is executing people and used to stone people after the revolution 1979 and uptil a couple years ago - I agree that it's horrible, but it's no worse than that the U.S. bombs city after city in our world, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the name of "freedom and democracy", and it's no worse than that the U.S. armed Saddam with conventional weapons and chemical compounds which he used to produce chemical weapons with and which he used against Iranians and Iraqi Kurds.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
If there's any attack on Iran it will be an airstrike on the mullahs and nuclear labs only and then the people will take over the government. They'd be grateful.

No, it's not that easy at all. The regime in Tehran is much, much more shrewd than you could ever imagine. Look at the various advances of our country during the last 10 years against all odds and you will see what I mean. When I say against all odds, what I mean is that Iran has been exposed to obstacle after obstacle during the last 26 years after the revolution. The revolution was devastating and Iran was struggling to get on its feet when about two years later Saddam Hussein surprised the whole world, including Iran, by attacking in it the early morning hours. The attack came at the worst time when only 35% of the former mighty Iranian military remained intact. Most fighter pilots were in jail and most high-ranking military commanders had either been executed, jailed or forced into pension. What followed was an 8 years long and very bloody war which killed an estimated one million Iranians and destroyed many of Iran's cities. While Saddam Hussein was recieving both arms and moral support from the U.S. and other Western powers, Iran stood virtuall all alone by itself. Hundreds of thousands of Iranians were killed or maimed. Yet because of the tremendous nationalist sentiments of the Iranian nation, wave after wave of volounteers signed up - Even men and women as old as 85 years old. These volounteers were referred to as the "Human Waves" because they kept marching, wave after wave of them, towards the Iraqi agressors, overwhelming them. And so although Iraq was superior in that they had a bigger army and plenty of modern weapons supplied by the U.S. and other western countries, Iran gained the upper hand with its "Human Waves". The Iraqis were pushed out of Iran and the Iranians now advanced furhter and further into Iraqi territory until they reached and surrounded Basra. That's when the U.S. probably gave its green light to Saddam to use chemical weapons to stop the Iranian advance. (I will post some articles here in reference to the braveries of the Iranian air force during that war, which has gone into history as some of the world's most legendary air-campaigns. The remaining Iranian pilots who had not escaped or got killed during the revoulution were finally realeased from jail on the orders of Ayatollah Khomeini, and thus were able to make a remarkable difference in the war)

Then when the war was over, Iran was faced with death and destruction to such an extent that the world will probably never know - because it simply was not reported in the media to the extent it deserved. One million Iranians got killed and hundreds of thousands were maimed, and the cities lay devastated by scud missiles. That's why Iranians do not fear war anymore - they have lived through hell already. They do not like it, but if it comes, they know how to deal with it. AND they know how to deal with the ememy as well!

Now in addition the U.S. sanctions and the isolation of Iran forced mostly by U.S. pressure and efforts, did certainly not help an already devastated country.

The war ended in 1989, and then in the 90's came what was referred to "The Construction Era" during the presidency of Hashemi Rafsanjani. But because of the U.S. sanctions and the U.S. pressure on its allies and puppets to not do any business with the Iranians, it was a major challenge for Iran to embark on the road of its "Construction Era". And yet against all these odds the Iranians have made it and are in the process of making it. And I'm not referring to the regime when I say the "Iranians". No, it is ordinary Iranians who have contributed to their society because they saw what much of the world with their blessings allowed to happen to their country and their nation.

Iranians have learnt from the past. They have learnt from the Iran-Iraq war and from the U.S. wars against Iraq. And they have used what they have learnt to assure that the same will never happen to them.

While most Iranians might not be overly enthusiastic about so many mullahs running the affairs of their country, they do also know that there is no better alternative at the present time, and therefore they will ABSOLUTELY NOT run into the streets and rejoice should America or Israel attack Iran. On the contrary - what Iranians value more than anything today is their independence and relative self-reliance. Iranians will rally behind the regime like never before in the case of an eventual attack.

The Iranian people have never had any grudges against the Israelis, UNTIL NOW! While most Iranians probably would argue that Sharon's Israel have caused the Palestinian nation a whole lot of grief, we have always thought that the Israeli- Palestinian question did not concern us as much as the current Iranian regime wants it to concern us. But now that we see Israel's clear intentions against the peaceful Iranian nation, and its determination to prevent Iran to become a highly developed country in the region, at any cost, even if it would involve the death of hundreds of thousands of Iranians, and the destruction of our cities and infrastructure which we with such pain have pursued, then let it be known that the Iranian nation will regard Israel as the arch-enemy of Iran, and would Israel dare to attack Iran, then the Iranian nation will respond with any and all means.

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The Iranian people have never had any grudges against the Israelis, UNTIL NOW! While most Iranians probably would argue that Sharon's Israel have caused the Palestinian nation a whole lot of grief, we have always thought that the Israeli- Palestinian question did not concern us as much as the current Iranian regime wants it to concern us. But now that we see Israel's clear intentions against the peaceful Iranian nation, and its determination to prevent Iran to become a highly developed country in the region, at any cost, even if it would involve the death of hundreds of thousands of Iranians, and the destruction of our cities and infrastructure which we with such pain have pursued, then let it be known that the Iranian nation will regard Israel as the arch-enemy of Iran, and would Israel dare to attack Iran, then the Iranian nation will respond with any and all means.

Really? Admirable.
Question:
How long has the current Iranian government, since the fall of the Shah, proclaimed and/or had the agenda calling for the utter destruction of Israel?
RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL

Another question:
How many within Iran seek and desire the ability to freely vote in their government leaders and as such, are seeking to overthrow the current Mullah regime?

And yet another:
How large is the Movement of Iranian Students and their calls for Regime Change in Iran?




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