We Canadians are proud of our diversity

a reply to: cantthinkofausername

Why do American conservatives not like diversity?

I could care less who or what color comes to this country, as long as they are not CRIMINALS.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: cantthinkofausername
Diversity requires that we accept cultures as they are without thinking they can advance.

No it doesn't at all. That's so wrong, I can't add much because if that is your observation of how the world goes around, there's no fixing it.

a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Yes, that and they don't try to force me to wear a hijab i don't care what they do.

a reply to: WUNK22

Ok that's better

a reply to: ZeroFurrbone

If you're gonna steal rape or kill, don't expect them to put you up at the Ritz eh?

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
I love Canada and its diversity but the Quebecois is a stain on history and one that never comes up as if it didn't happen or is justified.

We took the train to Quebec City a few years back and stayed in the Old City. My French is the kind that gets laughed at. We took no grief, everybody was friendly. I've been to Quebec a few times and never encountered any grief.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti
I know this thread started out talking about Toronto but it also gives the impression that Canada is somehow different than the rest of North America. When it comes to accepting diversity, I would say that the province of Quebec was more than just a little intolerant during the 1970's. Maybe it's different now, I don't really know. I lived in Montreal during the FLQ. I was just a kid but I remember It was a time when one had to fear being attacked for speaking English. The provincial government legislated French as the only acceptable language. It's the equivalent of ethnic cleansing without actually killing anyone. The difference was that, as an English person, you had the choice to leave or become French. In fact, Toronto owes some of its diversity to the FLQ since much of the non-french population moved there in the mid 70's.

I love Canada and its diversity but the Quebecois is a stain on history and one that never comes up as if it didn't happen or is justified.

Canada LIKES to say they enjoy diversity, and in some places it's very true.
In others and concerning First Nations and as the poster said English Speakers in Quebec it's isn't. In British Columbia the racism is with the Chinese. Canada isn't perfect.

The racist comments I heard on the Hamilton Local News live on air would have gotten any newscaster down here in the states fired immediately. The CBC lost a suit a few years ago which is why there is now a "Aboriginal North" department for northern news.

www.cbc.ca...

A First Nations woman is in hospital after she was struck by a trailer hitch thrown from a moving vehicle last weekend while she was walking in a residential neighbourhood in Thunder Bay, Ont., police say.

www.theglobeandmail.com...

Saskatchewan’s racial divide
The death of a young man, allegedly shot by Gerald Stanley, has exposed the tensions between the First Nations communities and their neighbours in the province. But to the indigenous population, who have faced racism for years, his death comes as no surprise

I visit friends up there I visit and while Toronto is indeed diverse people also tend to stick to their own neighborhoods. Plus there's Scarboro & Missasauga where no one wants to live. Mostly due to the high immigrant populations.

Personally in St.Catherines Quebec I was refused service because I didn't speak french. Also refused service in a store because I was with a Mohawk friend. In both instances it wasn't till I pulled out American cash that we were grudgingly assisted.

I really love Canada, but please don't pass it off as the poster child of happy diversity.

a reply to: Caver78

In bc there are minor problems with the Chinese in the city, and the Natives. But it's not a big problem. People keep to themselves, and I for one have zero problems with anyone when i am there. People dont give a crap as long as you don't bother them. Plus there are medical marijuana shops on every corner so people are mellow cool and just want to go about their business. It's rare to see any kind of violence like you'd see in say, Toronto, the murder capital of Canada.

a reply to: LuXTeN

I disagree it's a BIG problem. In a local museum in I wanna say St.Thomas, we were on our way to Iona and the double walled Neutral Indian site I used directions and asked what Native exhibits they might have in the museum cause I was happy to pay the fee and look around we were told with GREAT DISTAIN "There's no INDIAN anything in THIS museum"
The Lady working the counter didn't even care I was standing there with three other Native ladies.

Very Blatent.
I Informed here there certainly WAS Native something in her museum but before I could turn and point I was asked to leave and informed the museum ONLY carried "proper" exhibits.

Most Canadians ignore how bad the racism is up there. Like it doesn't exist. No place is perfect but JEEZE!!!

Edited to add, the problems in BC are bad. The Chinese brought the Triads with them and there is plenty of anger about the housing bubble they caused with getting their money out of China.

Why is it such a bad thing to want to be with your own kind? Why are they trying so hard to remove our freedom of association?

a reply to: Caver78

I understand what you're saying, but i'm telling you it's not as hard core as you're saying it is. I know. One of my best friends is Native. I've known natives prior to this new liberal govt' back when Chretien was around. Sure there will always be crap here and there for ALL races not just a select few. My other best friend was Chinese. They are anything but racist, and i really hate that word, it's over used badly.

The only people who create problems are those who are abusing the system. Example. The Natives live on native land, not all of course but many. They don't get enough for themselves because the other Natives in charge of all the money they receive from the Gov't abuse it and steal what's rightfully their own peoples money. something needs to be done about that. But there are white people living in poverty too along with other people of colour. It's not all the Gov'ts fault. the Native big wigs who run all the Casinos and rake in millions are just really bad at managing their own sh't. They dont even care about their own.

Of course during Expo 86 or rather thereafter, all the land was bought up by chinese imigrants (wealthy ones) sold off by Vanderzam. So, when i go back there i do notice changes but most of the gangs are in Surrey (pakistani gangs)Delta and Richmond(chinese gangs) area.

a reply to: Caver78

It ain't perfect, especially regarding the First Nations. But Canada tries, and that's more than the rest of the world does.

a reply to: LuXTeN

A lot of drug related murders in the lower mainland B.C. primarily Indo Canadian gangs..been going on for years. Triads and bikers for the most part stay low profile.
Got crazy in Jan..quieted down some, not uncommon to hear gunshots in my area.
Some of the hit's in TO where done by B.C. wanksters.

a reply to: vonclod

Don't forget the 1%ers in Quebec!

I know it's not crappy everywhere in Canada, & I DEFINATELY know about the Tribal mismanagement and nepotism and embezzlement.

What I'm talking about are places like Winnipeg. Absolute Blatant racism. Plus I've experienced it myself and I'm NOT EVEN NATIVE! Sure got lumped in there tho cause of who I was standing near. (love my friends)

From what I've seen as an obvious outsider is the horrific financial waste at your governmental levels with redundant "study after study" and nothing changes.Heck study outcomes aren't even publicized till two more are underway!!!
It's all kumbyah time we're one happy diversified nation but problems seem to just keep getting swept up in "lets get another commission to study this".

I know...hanging head...I'm all the emperor has no clothes chick today, but I really adore visiting and LOVE particularly the North Shore of Lake Superior. Wawa, Streiber, Pancake Bay.....plus your border guards are a HOOT!

One very french canadian border guard kept working in the question did I have a firearm as he chain smoked one of those cigs that come in a green pack, name escapes me,for about an hour and finally I looked him right in the eye and blurted out
"I'm a MOM FFS!!! I will cold cock you with whatever is handy!!! I DON'T NEED A GUN!!!
He damn near spit out his cig laughing and started commiserating with me "Isn't that the truth! My Ma'Mere could kill you with a shoe around a corner!!"

Another crossing I was asked what was in my trunk. Ahem REALLY dirty laundry. The female border guard didn't believe me. So popped the trunk and as she began rooting around she stopped cold and backed up kinda dry heaving. My friends cat had had a "moment" with my sleeping bag and the urine stench was AWESOME!!!

The guard was all" WHY??? Why are you carrying dirty laundry???"...gag, gasp...

Cause have you seen what they charge at the laundromat in Etobicoke???? I have a perfectly good washing machine at home!! You have a family, do you waste money??? Yes I yanked everything out for her so she didn't get funky cause she had more hours into her shift, and yet again, no contraband. Apparently kitty pee is legal.

I can't believe that they still let me cross into Canada....or back into the States. I'm gonna get detained for being a smart mouth.

The OP wants to debate, throwing some fresh meat on the floor.
I'll dabble.

Canada is a lot less diverse than the US. 80% white.

Canada is much more white, and mainly only british isles and French white.

Yea, Toronto and Vancouver are diverse, but that is not the whole country.

The US has detroit, which is only 10% white. Can't top that for diversity.

As for blacks in canada, They are over represented in prison just like the US. 3% of population, 10% of prison population.

When cultural groups are smaller, it is harder for them to form an enclave and then isolate themselves from the majority culture. In this case, Canada is a supermajority white that was once nearly all white. Minority populations were too small to create slumholes except first nations, which are well known slumholes, just like american reservations.

Hey if you guys want to turn your white population to the 60% and take our illegal immigrants to match US demographics that would be mighty white of you.

English Canada and French Canada butt heads all the time. You would think Canadians would understand culture clash but I digress.



Really think about this. White English canadians and French Canadians could barely stand each other and referendums have been voted on before. Now you guys actually believe diversity. I mean Come on.

a reply to: jellyrev

Here's another Snippet.

Michigan and Detroit were once part of Canada. Yes it's True!

eta: and yes, the English and French Canadians hate each other. True again.

a reply to: LuXTeN

I am from michigan. You guys are welcome to take Detroit back. The people of the Upper Penninsula still believe they are canadian

a reply to: vonclod

I visited Surrey a few years ago, and just missed by moments two gangs killing each other in the middle of a suburb. It's not a good place to live, but it's infrequent, more there than in the city. It's unfortunate when this happens.

a reply to: jellyrev

lol I don't think anyone wants it now, it's been ruined and completely trashed. You guys keep it, as a kind of parting gift

We are canadian. We have better beer. And we are tolerant. Mostly we are tge melting pot of all cultures. Yet we just want our better beer.