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We Canadians are proud of our diversity

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posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
Yeah, Canada is diverse. Bwahahahahah! Are you serious? Maybe, and only maybe, if you break white people up into lots of different sub-groups... and even then Canada is not diverse.
Google search reveals 2.5% of the Canada pop is black. 11% identifies as mix of black and white.
What a load.

Spent a lot of time here, have you?




posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 09:27 AM
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It is always cute when people paint their country as a Norman Rockwell painting to appear superior...

Every country has problems, and every country has good points, as an American it gets a little tiresome being told how horribly racist, misogynist, and any other flavor of the month ism word that people like to use.

Where I had to go in Canada for work I saw some racism that looked like it came right out of the civil rights era in the States... so how about you take care of your home and we will try to take care of ours.

Then when help is needed we act like good neighbors and help each other.
edit on 6-2-2017 by Irishhaf because: wrong words



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

Not sure why you continue to respond but ok.



Canada is a lot less diverse than the US. 80% white


This was the opening statement of your OP, without googling anything, I can already tell you this premise is based of anecdote and really foolish. I would say no more then half of the "whites" are of Canadian origin.




The US has detroit, which is only 10% white. Can't top that for diversity. 


Except Detroit is almost last in diversity

www.google.ca...

And Toronto still remains the most diverse city in the world

www.blogto.com...

So far your 0 for 2 with your anecdote.




English Canada and French Canada butt heads all the time. You would think Canadians would understand culture clash but I digress. 

Really think about this. White English canadians and French Canadians could barely stand each other and referendums have been voted on before. Now you guys actually believe diversity. I mean Come on


As I've already proven to you that a city of 500k is hardly a representation of anyone in Canada and barely has any influence as a whole. More anecdote from you.

0 for 3

You also tried to emphasize your whole point by using the word "white" 7 times in your OP. I don't even think I personally know 7 white people.



It sounds like the Forgotten Americans have some Forgotten Canadian cousins.


Or maybe I'm trying to take you off your anecdotal high horse with facts?



are you drunk?


I don't drink.



never claimed I lived in canada. Why do you keep bringing this up? 


So why are you speaking for Canada based on anecdote and raw empircal data?



I believe you are trolling, The Quebec referendum happened 20 years ago, not 40. Hence you have to be trolling, I remember it as a kid in the USA. 


That should only reinforce my notion that it's so insignificant. I never onced opened up Google to debate you. I just used my vague memory of LIVING in Canada my whole life. I could've been off 50 years, or it could've taken past last night. It doesn't change the insignificance of this.



How can I trust a canadian who cannot remember that issue? 


OK so let's instead trust the person that doesnt even live here and only has anecdotal data from Google.

Is it clear to you now what my issue was? I could care less about your opinion of Canada, but I was so offended by your ignorance in your OP. Your tone was quite clear on the pedestal you were blabbing from.



You are going to throw out ancedote vs statistical data. Ok. 
You didnt even present an argument.


Please just do yourself a favor and enlighten yourself past Google before you try to make an argument on something you clearly don't know much about.

Don't waste your time responding to this



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 11:21 AM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
Where I had to go in Canada for work I saw some racism that looked like it came right out of the civil rights era in the States... so how about you take care of your home and we will try to take care of ours.

So, does that mean you don't want us to have this discussion here? Because goodness, gracious, it's not like Americans ever bring up this thing they dub "American Exceptionalism."
So it is then entirely untoward for us Canadians to actually state an aspect of our society in which we take some pride? And though it may not be perfect, it is in taking ownership of that attribute that we can seek improvement...that's not ok with you?

Thanks for the schooling, Dude.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 11:22 AM
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OP -

Pride cometh before a fall.

Don't be proud. Be honest, be true, be trustworthy, be full of Wisdom, be kind, be decent, and above all, treat others the way you wish to be treated. (within reason, and not including aholes who piss you off and demean your character.)



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: jjkenobi
Yeah, Canada is diverse. Bwahahahahah! Are you serious? Maybe, and only maybe, if you break white people up into lots of different sub-groups... and even then Canada is not diverse.

Google search reveals 2.5% of the Canada pop is black. 11% identifies as mix of black and white.

What a load.


Why wouldn't you break them into sub groups if they aren't of Canadian origin? So immigrants from Russia, Poland, Sweden, Europe, Scotland etc etc should just be labeled white? Even when English is not thier first language? And they bring their own culture and dialect? Not diverse?

If you want to get "technical" Canada is 80 percent "white". Of that 80 percent only 30 is Canadian and about 15 is French Canadian. The rest are immigrants.

Diversity is so much more than black and white, and a lot more to do with culture but all you google warriors keep bringing up skewed data that won't show you the full context...



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 12:25 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Detroit was a joke, the joke is a city is more diverse if it has less white people. You caught me on my bait.

It looks like I have multiple canadians getting upset that I have used statistical data.
All I have learned in this topic is statisticians and sociologist are all wrong when it comes to canada.
Good to know Canuks.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 12:36 PM
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a reply to: jellyrev

See, the things about staticians is they are reading the same thing you are. Please provide me where any sociologist said that Canada is not diverse?

The thing you need to understand is "diversity" is WAY more than just a few numbers and black and white. It's about culture.

Think about that for a second.

And the fact you used the word Canucks* tells me everything I need to know about you.

I'm surprised you didn't throw in the words igloo, honkey-dory, hockey or eh in there..
edit on 6-2-2017 by knowledgehunter0986 because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:05 PM
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a reply to: jellyrev

Ill just end our discussion with this.

canadianimmigrant.ca...



, Canada boasts the highest percentage of foreign-born citizens than any other G8 country


G8 countries: Canada, Japan, Russia, United States, Germany, Italy, UK and France.

There isn't much more that needs to be said.

Good bye



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

the OP was a direct shot at your southern neighbors, not taking pride in something... it is possible I misunderstood, but that is how it read to me.

There is a significant group here on these boards that take every single opportunity to inform us ignorant Americans how horrible we are and how America is responsible for every Ill in the worlds history.

I feel just as annoyed with the chest thumping Merica F ya crowd to...

You want a rah rah Canada thread go ahead leave out the political shots at America, Canada has a lot to be proud of... the Canadian military members I have worked with were wonderful folks... Canada has a rich history with plenty to brag about.

But to say how awesome your diversity is when parts of your country still treat first nation folks like second class citizens and the racism is flowing heavy in both directions seems a tad out of whack with reality.



posted on Feb, 6 2017 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

the OP was a direct shot at your southern neighbors, not taking pride in something... it is possible I misunderstood, but that is how it read to me.

There is a significant group here on these boards that take every single opportunity to inform us ignorant Americans how horrible we are and how America is responsible for every Ill in the worlds history.

I feel just as annoyed with the chest thumping Merica F ya crowd to...

You want a rah rah Canada thread go ahead leave out the political shots at America, Canada has a lot to be proud of... the Canadian military members I have worked with were wonderful folks... Canada has a rich history with plenty to brag about.

But to say how awesome your diversity is when parts of your country still treat first nation folks like second class citizens and the racism is flowing heavy in both directions seems a tad out of whack with reality.
You think maybe it's more of a reflection on the current state of affairs down there? No, things aren't perfect here, but I think we may be judged on that which we try to accomplish. Right now there are a lot of agencies scrambling to pick up the pieces from the refugee and immigration schmozzle of late. Science is being archived, sick kids are being shuttled into our hospitals, students are being 'adopted' by our schools. You may see it is bragging, but it is also showing our folks that good deeds matter.

I like Americans and America...but this is not your greatest hour.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 01:53 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Maybe it is the conspiracy theorist in me... but when it is so hard to get into a country legally when I am bringing a skill set and money, and a desire to join the culture...

Yet have little chance of getting in... and some brown skinned person (yes this will sound racist but it is how the situation looks to me) Just has to say I am from Syria... oops nope no documentation lost it in the war zone and they get escorted in... that bothers me a lot. (something I have read happening here in Germany)

If it takes a shutting down for a review of the process I am OK with that... Heck I had problems getting back into Germany last time I traveled home, and I have been living there for 3 years.

Every country on the planet has the right and obligation to their citizens to ensure secure borders, it has nothing to do with the various ism's people like to associate with this stance.

If folks want to review the way for people to legally immigrate to the US to stream line the process I am 100% for it... anyone that goes through the process typically want to join the culture and I welcome them with open arms.

People actually from a war torn area... I welcome... economic refugees though do the paper work and get in line.

eta: Also this is far from the first time this has happened I really wish people would stop acting like we are pushing people against the wall and shooting them, or arresting them and flying them to other countries to be tortured for S&G's.
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posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 02:03 AM
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Germany is proud of their diversity as well, as evidenced in the cringiest video ever made.



Warning! It can't be unseen....




posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 02:10 AM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: cantthinkofausername

Diversity simply means less whites and less of what it means to be white. the word diversity is not used in black, Muslim or Asian countries or communities is it?.

Tolerance means the same thing, funny how we never hear the black, Muslim or Asian countries or communities talking about the need to be tolerant of whites and of those things it means to be white or western.

You sound as if less whiteness makes you sad.


No it doesn't. just think people should be aware of the intent behind these phrases when used as most people don't seem to relaise they are being played by opinion molders and shapers when they use these terms. I see a sinister agenda by such people.

perhaps the question to consider is wether I am correct in my claims or not.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 10:25 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Azureblue
a reply to: cantthinkofausername

Diversity simply means less whites and less of what it means to be white. the word diversity is not used in black, Muslim or Asian countries or communities is it?.

Tolerance means the same thing, funny how we never hear the black, Muslim or Asian countries or communities talking about the need to be tolerant of whites and of those things it means to be white or western.

You sound as if less whiteness makes you sad.


No it doesn't. just think people should be aware of the intent behind these phrases when used as most people don't seem to relaise they are being played by opinion molders and shapers when they use these terms. I see a sinister agenda by such people.

perhaps the question to consider is wether I am correct in my claims or not.

No, you just sound upset because Mendel showed that the future is brown. Any FOTB immigrant is going to hold on to their culture in an unfamiliar place. That fades with the next generation...often to the chagrin of the immigrants. Need I cite My Big Fat Greek Wedding 1 & 2 for confirmation? (Greeks are white in your world, right?)
Just because you are other than white has nothing to do with how Canadian you are.In fact you might just see more sincere pride in Canada from those who have to work to get here. I have two flags in direct sight as I type this...they are hanging from the mailbox of recent immigrants. They can hardly wait to be Canadian. Sorry if that hurts your feelings, though.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Not to be controversial here but...

How do you know those Immigrants are hanging Canadian flags off their mail boxes and windows because they're proud?

They could be doing that to divert attention away from their jihadi ways and blend in.

We just don't know and I don't trust anyone, especially if i have little to no reason to trust them.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I never claimed Canada did not have more foreign born citizens.
Only claiming less diversity than the US.

You fail to take into account existing minority cultures that the US already had if you are trying to prove Canada is more diverse.

I never claimed Canada was not diverse. Only less diverse than the US.

Canada is also much more selective than the US. Canadians are not diverse when it comes to their immigrants education and hence IQ. About half of Canadian immigrants have bachelor's degrees. Considering most people of the world do not have access to university it seems that Canada takes others countries best.
I'd love to build a country where I push the average IQ of immigrants to 105-110. Touche Canada.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 10:36 AM
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originally posted by: LuXTeN
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Not to be controversial here but...
How do you know those Immigrants are hanging Canadian flags off their mail boxes and windows because they're proud?
They could be doing that to divert attention away from their jihadi ways and blend in.
We just don't know and I don't trust anyone, especially if i have little to no reason to trust them.

Because we made the effort to say hello. Because we got to know the family over Christmas and my wife is now assisting them with their English. Because we don't view the world with a jaundiced eye that requires anything 'different' to prove itself first. Because we actually believe in our diversity. Because we believe in people.

Yours sounds like a sad scary world.



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 11:02 AM
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a reply to: jellyrev

Nothing you say in your post takes away from the diversity, and actually reinforces my point we are more divetse. Not sure why you are still trying to debate it. I keep telling your there's so much more to diversity then black and white numbers. The most important aspect of diversity isn't measurable, only experienced. It's called Culture.. no one says "wow what a diverse number"

Other than California, all your "diverse" states are pretty segregated. In Canada every culture blends with one another. That's called Culture and isn't measurable with numbers. Put it this way.. California is by far the most diverse state by a huge difference compared to any other state, and guess what? That's how all of Canada is. You really need to stop arguing with me because I absolutely know what I'm talking about. I would respect your opinion more if you've actually spent some time in Canada.

Have you been to California? Did you know the top 5 most diverse cities are all in California? And even then it's not as diverse as Toronto?

You clearly are admitting that Canadians have higher IQ, so maybe just maybe I actually know what I'm talking about..



posted on Feb, 7 2017 @ 11:16 AM
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You clearly are admitting that Canadians have higher IQ,


I agree with this statement.

I have spent time in canada. been to Toronto, Barrie, The Soo, Wawa.
Seemed about the same as Michigan, except currency and the weird flavors of Lay's chips

Can you source you diverse city arguments?
Toronto is the only city I see in articles I am looking at. The US has San Franscisco, Los Angeles, New York City, Houston, Miami, Washington DC according to my quick google searches.

I agree, It is much easier to intergrate people together when the immigrants are an average IQ of 105-110.
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