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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Pre-obamacare my premium was $230/mo. So that was the cost of all those who couldn't pay. Post obamacare my premium is $320/month. So why the increase? mean, if more people are buying in and paying their own way then why are my prices going up?
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: xuenchen
How so? Do you think the insurance companies are going to leave prices as is? What's to stop everyone in the US from buying insurance from the cheapest state?
The insurance companies like their record profits. They're not going to risk those just because they can "compete across state lines."
originally posted by: Sillyolme
Sure he's nearing completion.
Just another lie from the constant liar.
The original took years to hammer out. But trump the magnificent has solved the problems before he's even taken office.
Lies lies and more lies. Lol what a joke..
Hey you guys wanted him.
Lol
Here ya go.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Linking to a political newspaper (right or left leaning, doesn't matter) to explain an economic issue is not the best way to understand the truth.
The S&P Global Institute, a study from the University of Pennsylvania, as well as a Yale University study disagree with the political newspaper.
Yale Study
S&P Global Analysis
University of Pennsylvania Study
All of these studies conclude that the ACA has caused more drastic increases and that without it, costs would be much lower.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Really this sums it up. Obamacare went into full effect in 2014 (a few provisions started in 2012-2013). Now take a look at individual pricing. Can you honestly tell me that you don't believe obamacare is at least partly responsible for this increase?
S&P Premium Chart
originally posted by: roadgravel
a reply to: enlightenedservant
The majority of people seem to not understand the part Congress plays and just ignore their failures.
Florida reelected Rubio after all the talk of his failure there. Nothing really changes.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: gmoneystunt
Insurance for everybody? Well, that's what Obamacare is trying to do so why get rid of it? Oh right, they don't like Obama because reasons so it has to go. Fun fact, Obamacare is very similar to health coverage former GOP'ers wanted to enact in the past so it's funny to see them now say how much they don't like it.
But at the end of the day, Trump has no plan and millions will be given the middle finger because of partisan politics.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Yep. In fact, according to Gallup (HERE), Congress' approval rating hasn't been above 20% since October of 2012. But 97% of the members of the House of Representatives who were up for reelection got reelected anyway! And 90% of the US Senators who were up for reelection got reelected! (Both found here.)
So why would Congress give a crap about popular opinion when it literally has no effect on their reelection rates?
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: network dude
Trump's word means nothing. He routinely says one thing and then backtracks later.
And more importantly, Presidents don't pass this kind of legislation; Congress does! I don't know why so many people give the 535 members of Congress a pass on this stuff. They're the only ones who can pass or repeal a national healthcare system. So Trump's words & ideas on this are literally worthless if Congress doesn't write them into law and pass them in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. That's why it's more important to pay attention to the healthcare plans of members of Congress like Paul Ryan and Rand Paul, seeing as those are the ones with the best chance of actually becoming law.
Yea, proved my point. You seem as if you will be giddy if he fails. And you just don't seem to grasp that if he doesn't fail, you win. Liberal minds are so #ing tiny it's sad. Give the guy enough rope to hang himself BEFORE the pitchforks are out. He has just said something he can't take back. And sadly, you boneheads are too wrapped up in hate to see that.
If he can't deliver, he will be EXACTLY what you think of him now. But if not, you will all need to collectively pull your heads from where they currently reside.