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“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,”
A Massachusetts appeals court has verbally skewered a judge who ordered that a mentally ill woman have an abortion against her will even if it meant she had to be “coaxed, bribed, or even enticed” into a hospital.
More recently, California prisons are said to have authorized sterilizations of nearly 150 female inmates between 2006 and 2010. This article from the Center for Investigative reporting reveals how the state paid doctors $147,460 to perform tubal ligations that former inmates say were done under coercion.
Crystal Nguyen, a former Valley State Prison inmate who worked in the prison’s infirmary during 2007, said she often overheard medical staff asking inmates who had served multiple prison terms to agree to be sterilized.
Federal and state laws ban inmate sterilizations if federal funds are used, reflecting concerns that prisoners might feel pressured to comply.
originally posted by: GodEmperor
No, individuals have a choice to plan ahead.
The conclusion will be reached by a government controlled health industry. Death panels will be implemented under this type of healthcare. People won't have the choice then.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Aazadan
What elements of single payer (which isn't single payer) does he keep describing? I've yet to hear anything about single payer or anything that even sounds like single payer. "Healthcare for all" is very vague, obama used it to describe obamacare.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Aazadan
Obama said take the BLUE pill and hope for the best if you need really expensive treatment.
originally posted by: Phoenix
I'm sorry, that's just not true that hospitals are at mercy of insurance companies.
In reality hospitals charge whatever the market will bear. Also keep in mind medicare/medicare contracts prevent hospital from billing lower amounts to other third parties.
Keep in mind that when a big insurer says they'll pay "x" percent on given procedures, the hospitals turn around and bill 150%, get 100% and then claim a 1/3 loss on paper - the so-called non-profits are most egregious at this scam.
I personally have had relationship with someone at executive level in a so-called non-profit hospital system and know how it works from the inside.
You should be screaming for jail terms not more insurance which will only make things worse.
These corporations, people and groups have NO exemptions from law as they would have you believe.
The only exemption was for insurance providers.
Bottom line - most people would not need insurance for routine medical care if current law was enforced.
Only thing stopping that is hospital, doctors, med groups and big pharma paying off our politicians at local, state and federal levels.
Not actually having a price or varying same based on method of payment without prior disclosure is a per-se and blatantly deceptive act. Try it when offering oil changes to the public for their cars and see how long you stay out of jail.
Further, these practices are illegal under the entire body of 15 USC Chapter 1. It is not possible for such an industry to maintain these practices without collusion and yet collision in fixing prices is per-se illegal under 15 United States Code.
It is further illegal to discriminate in pricing of commodities (that is, physical goods) sold, manufactured or used in interstate commerce between buyers of like kind and quantity. This means drugs, medical supplies and hardware of various sorts, all of which are manufactured and shipped in interstate (and international) commerce cannot lawfully be priced differently between consumers of like kind and quantity of same. That, once again, is long-standing law (Robinson-Patman) and part of 15 United States Code!
originally posted by: tribal
i myself can conceive of at least 2 or 3 practical ways america could have totally free health care. Trump will probably not use any of my ideas....but he could.
Socialized healthcare should be the way we go but it appears it will never happen. Too much money to be made off of sick people and too many brainwashed people who believe socialized medicine is inferior.