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originally posted by: chadderson
a reply to: TrueBrit
In otherwords, we are misidentifying the anti-American group/movement? By calling them "liberals, progressives, left wingers, globalists"? Perhaps it would be easier to just call it the Soros/Clinton/Obama agenda, that belittles American ideals and values.
The semantics may be wrong, but when the ideology is presented we know when to stand up to it.
originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: GodEmperor
And here we have some fantastic evidence of how utterly brainwashed the American people are.
The fact that you believe that any of the political movements in your country are too far to the left, proves how blinkered and witless you have permitted your nations government to make your people over the last few decades. I will give you a clue... there is no real left in your politics in America. You are an anti-social nation, full of self interested policy, with built in distrust of anything that is not selfish, greed based, any system of application of worth not based in financial things, as opposed to a value system based on greater notions.
You fear and distrust socialism because you have been programmed to, not because it is a toxic concept, but because you have swallowed too much poison to even act in your own defence against the corporatist idiocracy that is growing up around your feet.
The problem with your country is not that there is a dangerous leftist element. There IS no leftist element in your country worth a damn. You think that those idiots who tortured that poor disabled boy were lefties? Of course you do. The propaganda worked on you, thats all anyone can say for certain about that situation.
This is why the form of Socialism in this country is called Democratic Socialism. And you are lying if you are trying to suggest that the Socialism that the left is pushing isn't the same Democratic Socialism that I'm talking about that has existed in the country for some time now.
The only difference between then and now is that we FINALLY have a politician with the balls to come out with the Socialist label. Before they just hid these Socialist policies behind capitalist rhetoric or down played the fact that it was really Socialism because Socialism ='s Communism to FAR too many brainwashed Americans. But he didn't get elected.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
Yes. Those reasons included and ended at an insult to my critical thinking by calling me a follower. Then you said Bernie was a wrong too. Like that somehow covers your bases in the shallowest proof ever.
Whatever proof is. It ISN'T just blanketedly saying, "No. You are a follower and so is the politician you sited earlier".