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Moderate Leftists Must Rise Up And Oppose Their Radical Marxist Counterparts

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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: AMNicks

Canada?

www.huffingtonpost.ca...




posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:57 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

How is the left sending the country down any path? The right just took control of all three branches of the government.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 08:59 AM
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Are we really making an argument, that the left-wing is really right-wing?

Are we saying the democrat platform, is really right-wing?

time.com...

This is what you consider right-wing? If we are going to be scientific about it, there is only left-wing. Authoritarian on the left, anarchy on the right; we only have left-wing parties if that is what you want to argue.

Sorry, but we are using the generally accepted scale of differentiation using American standards. I am not going to go into the complexity of re-defining political ideology as they pertain to certain individuals.

Our right-wing is nothing compared to the right-wingers in Europe, and that's a good thing; we need to keep it that way as well.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:01 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

By Canada you mean Montreal?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:07 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

I was a big fan of Bernie Sanders until he wimped out



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:10 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor





We are now seeing an increased trend of isolated incidences of hate crimes, perpetrated by both sides.


I agree with your OP, but both sides?? Maybe 1 or 2 on the right. The vast majority are being perpetrated by the left.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:13 AM
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originally posted by: AMNicks
a reply to: kaylaluv

By Canada you mean Montreal?


And Vancouver and Toronto and Edmonton and Ottawa and Winnipeg and every other metropolitan area, which is where you typically see multiculturalism in other countries. In Canada, it seems to work pretty well (with only few exceptions).



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:18 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

I like the OP. But remember, the left has owned the last 8 years, have dominated academe, the media, most governments, that to convince them the evils of socialism and the absurdity of their policies will take a sheer act of will on their part, as education and information are in their hands, and self-criticism is unlikely.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:28 AM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Granted.

I live in UK, Considered the forefront of multiculturalism in the western world (the whole world too)

What a mess this place is! Fear, hate and never seen before separation between communities!

There is no peace or acceptance here towards Christianity or the "white" population.

We accepted cultures! There was never any discrimination!

But once the media spun their web, and the government forced restrictions to "make it more accepting" people pushed further away!

America is 100% the most accepting country! They accept that you have the right to say what ever you want! Freedom of speech regardless of creed or race!

No other country has this!

Therefore no other country can amount to the accepting nature of the USA. In every aspect (racism, sexism, acceptance)
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posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:31 AM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: GodEmperor

I like the OP. But remember, the left has owned the last 8 years, have dominated academe, the media, most governments, that to convince them the evils of socialism and the absurdity of their policies will take a sheer act of will on their part, as education and information are in their hands, and self-criticism is unlikely.


So true, and so sad.

The rise of ISIS was not due to Obama's lack of leadership and foreign policy experience, it has been blamed on global warming.

The rise in racial tensions and riots has nothing to do with the violent rhetoric and sensationalized reporting from the left, it's blamed on a non-existent epidemic of cops shooting minorities.

Decades of democrat policies have created the current conditions in urban areas, these conditions could have been addressed long ago through local governments, but they have been compounded over the years to make a fallacious argument against the opposition.

Self-reflection is needed, now more than ever. Hopefully it is as unlikely as a Trump presidency.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: GodEmperor

How is the left sending the country down any path? The right just took control of all three branches of the government.


Thanks to the left. I have no illusions over what an unrestrained political party is capable of.

Trump would never have come to the forefront, without the precursor of what the left has done.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:37 AM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

So now it is the left's fault for whatever Trump ends up doing with his mandate?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:39 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: GodEmperor

So now it is the left's fault for whatever Trump ends up doing with his mandate?



If policies and laws are put in place because of the behavior of the left, than your damn right it's the left's fault.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:40 AM
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a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Nice mental gymnastics with your victim blaming there.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:41 AM
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a reply to: iTruthSeeker

Which laws has your local representative signed for passage in the last 8 years you don't like or like?



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:42 AM
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Have the authoritarian leftists ever taken responsibility for anything they have ever done?

Obamacare is still blamed on republicans for christ's sake!



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Policy decisions permeate across administrations, the effects of which may not be felt for years after implementation.

The rise in the age of social media, has increased the rate at which social issues become widespread. These social issues were not properly addressed by the left, they were fomented in order to energize their base into voting.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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First of all, the side of the ocean one happens to be on, does NOT change the definition of right and left. It does, however, appear to alter ones perceptions of which is which, and where one begins and the other ends. Unfortunately for you, you are on the wrong side of the ocean. On your side of the ocean, the left is merely whatever you happen to disagree with the most on any given occasion, rather than being an actual description which has any merit to it. Only on THIS side of the pond, does anyone have a blind blasted CLUE about politics, the meaning of the terminology surrounding it, or what the difference between right and left actually is.

Put simply, when there is a discussion to be had which features this paradigm, it is the translation that WE use, on THIS side of the ocean, that has meaning. Your utterly embuggered and valueless opinions of what constitute right and left, are meaningless by default, because your countries government has been deliberately destroying your ability to actually think for yourselves on these issues, by lying to you about which is which. I bet you even think the Nazis were lefties, don't you? Yes, we will be using OUR definitions of left and right, because they are actually valid, real, unfettered and unadulterated.

Furthermore, you seem to have the wrong idea about what our countries are doing, and what kind of policies they are enacting. First of all, my countries government is not enacting left wing policy. It is rather the opposite. The government are destroying our National Health Service, by privatising huge swathes of it, by levering away at the socialist foundations of the welfare state, despite the fact that it forms the underpinning of British, post war society, and the fact that without it, there will be no equality or equity. The poor will become the homeless, and the homeless will become the dead. These are the realities of life, no others have any importance at all. We, the left, demand that this privatisation across the board cease, that our railways return to public ownership, that the people are bailed out instead of the banks, that the tax dodging billionaires whose evasions cost our nation tens of billions a year are gone after before the insignificant number of benefits cheats, who between them make not one millionth the dent that corporate fraud does, in the public coffers.

WE, the left, the real left, demand our bloody rights, that our nations infrastructure not be sold off to the highest bidder, that we not be left at the mercy of mercenary companies who care not one whit for their own honour, or our lives. We, the left demand that our nation be treated by its government and everyone working for them, like a precious thing, worthy of being preserved in the precise state they found it in, or improved without being sold.

We demand that we be represented by compassion, not loomed over by tyrants.

If your vision of the left is anything less than this then your vision is flawed, and if you do not wish to discuss European politics, then let me tell you one thing for certain... you will either discuss real politics done properly, as we do it, or you will fail to understand politics in general. Focus on American politics will see you learn nothing but how to fail.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
Have the authoritarian leftists ever taken responsibility for anything they have ever done?

Obamacare is still blamed on republicans for christ's sake!


It's funny how you use the phrase Obamacare while saying it is pinned on the Republicans.



posted on Jan, 5 2017 @ 09:48 AM
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a reply to: MOMof3

The one I like is the revocation of permits required for concealed carry in the state of Missouri. I am also in favor of my local representatives, moving CCW permits(for reciprocity purposes only now) from being on driver's licenses to separate IDs.

I disfavored my local government giving database information of gun owner's to the Obama administration. I do not like registries, no matter which side promotes it.



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