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No, Donald Trump is not beating Hillary Clinton in the popular vote

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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Zimnydran
To the OP,
Your initial post was most certainly true at the time you posted it. But it is looking like there may be a chance of 3million ineligible votes.


Defending a fake news site story, by (almost citing) a fake news story on info wars is not honest. Which of course you are aware of and that's why you didn't include the link.




posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:22 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Hey ?

How many people ran for president ?

HOW MANY ?

Anyone trying to push Clinton got more is pushing intellectual dishonesty, and should not be allowed to vote.

Since they have no idea how the American electoral process works to begin with.

The answer was 4 people ran for president PLUS the write in.

The MAJORITY of people DID NOT VOTE for CLinton.


Good point...
but MORE people voted for Clinton than anyone else
AND the MAJORITY...by a significant margin..voted NOT TRUMP.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:36 PM
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Trump won get over it . Isn't that what y'all said when o won in 2012?



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Significant? Yah well unless you count the illegals and the dead and about 60,000 convicted felons in Virginia. No it wasn't a significant margin. Probably that is not including the absentee vote which is significantly senior, disabled, and military.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:39 PM
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a reply to: Indigo5

Significant? Yah well unless you count the illegals and the dead and about 60,000 convicted felons in Virginia. No it wasn't a significant margin. Probably that is not including the absentee vote which is significantly senior, disabled, and military.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:42 PM
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so what if he did or didn't america is a representative constitutional republic not a democracy or a communist or socialist state where mobs rule. if people want to get rid of an integral part of our system and bring about a majority vote system then gtfo because that will really lead to a civil war and destroy our country, it would plunge all of us into actual third world status in the aftermath either way.
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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:47 PM
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Sorry Charlie.

You have to win the votes where they count. Over winning in Chicago, New York, and LA doesn't mean jack squat in Wisconsin, Florida, or Michigan.

I'm all for breaking up the mega populous states into smaller ones to alleviate this problem and get better representation to the population. Coincidentally though that would've caused more electoral votes for Trump and less for Clinton.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Trump won get over it . Isn't that what y'all said when o won in 2012?


No. Actually what we said was "He's not a Marxist Kenyan Muslim - where are you people getting this absurd crap from?"

And that's where we've spent the past eight years.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:00 PM
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a reply to: Hefficide

I distinctly remember many here saying get over it suck it up
We won etc just comb through those old threads and you will find it. But I understand that you personally may have said he's not Marxiist. But he is and was and so is Hillary, but Dinesh Dsouza said, Hillary sacrifices even her radical agenda to take money.
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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:09 PM
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a reply to: Fisherr
Yes that's true Hillary conceded, unlike Gore who caused a massive downturn in the stock market before he finally threw on the towel.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:11 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: spiritualzombie

originally posted by: Ohanka
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Truth is the MSM lies constantly.

Nobody who values truth would support Clinton.


The people voted for Clinton. The truth is that Clinton won the popular vote. The mainstream media is reporting this truth accurately.


The popular vote doesn't mean much in America since she LOST and CONCEDED to Trump.
There is no argument.


Finally, someone says there is no argument. I agree, there shouldn't be. Well, unfortunately, there's another thread in this forum spreading false information that apparently ATS mods are okay with.

The only point of this thread is to correct the false claim made in that other thread, and to reaffirm the truth that Hillary won the popular vote.


Well, since there are well documented cases of voter fraud with votes switching to Hillary it means someone in charge of voting machines was rigging it, and also Obama saying illegals can vote and no one would cause them any trouble before the election night, that right there INVALIDATES any popular vote count going to Hillary for this election, and so NO, she does not get to be counted as winning the popular vote either. This is America's statement since Trump won fair and square.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:17 PM
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originally posted by: Hefficide

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Trump won get over it . Isn't that what y'all said when o won in 2012?


No. Actually what we said was "He's not a Marxist Kenyan Muslim - where are you people getting this absurd crap from?"

And that's where we've spent the past eight years.


Except that he very likely is a Marxist Kenyan Muslim, and all of his policies indicate he IS all of those things, including his arming the Muslim Brotherhood and installing Muslims everywhere in government positions, and communist Marxist people within his administration like Van Jones just for starters. To deny these things does not follow a logical path of thinking, it only follows a path of saying it is all lies because of political and emotional reasons.

I know the truth is very hard to bear but it is the bald truth even when you don't want it to be.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Except it isn't bald truth, or balding truth or even extremely hairy truth.

Obama is not Kenyan, nor Maxist nor Muslim - all demonstrable facts.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: JKlinero

I love it when people like you trash talk. If your veiled threats were half as bad as they come off it would mean a felony and serious jail time for whomever did "it". Then you could see how your game of don't drop the soap goes for ya.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Trump won get over it . Isn't that what y'all said when o won in 2012?


It seems to me when one party wins and is still so dishonest and insecure that they have to lie about losing the popular vote and create fake news stories to support that lie...then it is clearly those people that need to "get over it".



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:37 PM
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3 million illegals voted in the election
dennismichaellynch.com...



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:42 PM
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originally posted by: ker2010
a reply to: Zmurfix

He could have made his argument in that thread. If it makes Hillary supporters happy take the moral victory. Ill quote Hillary on the subject..

WHAT DIFFERENCE AT THIS POINT DOES IT MAKE?



I'll quote Trump Twitter 2012 on the subject...

The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.

We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Trump won get over it . Isn't that what y'all said when o won in 2012?


It seems to me when one party wins and is still so dishonest and insecure that they have to lie about losing the popular vote and create fake news stories to support that lie...then it is clearly those people that need to "get over it".
I am not insecure at all. But of course many are concerned when the losers want to bully electors into changing their votes and the Linerals want to insert Beenie Sanders after the fact and he sure as heck didn't have the popular vote
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posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:46 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
3 million illegals voted in the election
dennismichaellynch.com...


That story is fake. The site it is on is BS. There is no evidence beyond the claim of fringe right-wing pretend organization that sells fringe ideological BS.



posted on Nov, 15 2016 @ 01:48 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

OP --

This seems like a strawman argument, because your post is pre-supposing that the mainstream media is hiding the fact that Hillary Clinton is leading in the popular vote. If that's what you are saying, I'm not getting that impression from mainstream media at all.

Everything I have seen so far in several stories from several mainstream news sources, plus the "talking head" discussions on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc. have all noted that she is leading the popular vote. Not only are those sources not denying that she leads the popular vote, but they are in fact reporting that she is leading.

So I'm not sure what "truth" it is you want to spread, but it seems to me that the truth that is currently being reported is that Ms. Clinton will probably win the popular vote.



But it's irrelevant if she does. What doesn't seem to be in question is that Trump won the electoral vote, which is the one that really matters. Whether we like Trump or not, he is the duly elected president. This wouldn't be the first time a president wins the electoral college but not the popular vote.




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