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No, Donald Trump is not beating Hillary Clinton in the popular vote

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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:04 PM
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No, Donald Trump is not beating Hillary Clinton in the popular vote
www.politifact.com...

"Anyone asking where I got the figures, it was from twitter posts. … If I’m wrong, I won’t hesitate to change the numbers. It’s the job of the establishment media to tell the people the final numbers when it’s out there already." (The Twitter post cited by 70News was this one.)

But as of 3 p.m. on Nov. 14, 70news still had the article up.

Our ruling

Social media was abuzz with the claim that the "final election 2016 numbers" showed that Trump had won both the popular and Electoral College contests.

Trump certainly won the Electoral College vote, and as a result, he will become president. But he clearly trails in the popular vote. As of this writing, Clinton is ahead by nearly 800,000 votes, a margin that is likely to expand further as late returns trickle in from California, Oregon and Washington state, all of which are strong Clinton states. We rate the claim Pants on Fire.


So why is the other thread still up on ATS? And what is up with the alt-right addiction to denial of truth? Well clearly they don't want Americans questioning who really won. They don't want you thinking about how Hillary beat Donald by so many votes... 670,000 according to the current count on Google. They don't want you questioning Donald's legitimacy no matter what. But why all of these lies??

It's because their base is generally understood to be the uneducated. They expect you to be stupid. They expect you to slurp down anything they give you. The alt-right's entire house of cards relies on people not knowing any better, on every issue. Expect this attack on truth to be a consistent characteristic of the Trump admin.
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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie
Figures ive seen say trump won the pop vote and the electoral college....check yer sources




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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

It's doesn't matter


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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Yeah but he is gonna be POTUS and that is the truth.


so


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:10 PM
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Who cares? It doesn't matter.

He won the majority of votes in the majority of states. Just because California is so ridiculously overpopulated doesn't mean they get to dictate the President


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:10 PM
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The real question is,
at this point,

what difference does it make?




posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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a reply to: spiritualzombie

Your post immediately made me think of Hiroo Onada


Onoda continued his campaign as a Japanese holdout, initially living in the mountains with three fellow soldiers (Private Yūichi Akatsu, Corporal Shōichi Shimada and Private First Class Kinshichi Kozuka).During his stay, Onoda and his companions carried out guerrilla activities and engaged in several shootouts with the police.



In 1952 letters and family pictures were dropped from aircraft urging them to surrender, but the three soldiers concluded that this was a trick. Shimada was shot in the leg during a shoot-out with local fishermen in June 1953, after which Onoda nursed him back to health. On May 7, 1954, Shimada was killed by a shot fired by a search party looking for the men. Kozuka was killed by two shots fired by local police on October 19, 1972, when he and Onoda, as part of their guerrilla activities, were burning rice that had been collected by farmers. Onoda was now alone.


He finally surrendered in the mid-1970's


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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Listen to yourself. Your ate up.

You sound like a poor loser.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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Heard today that when this is sorted out as many as 2million illegals may have voted.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: lordcomac
The real question is,
at this point,

what difference does it make?



The difference is truth.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: Ohanka
Who cares? It doesn't matter.

He won the majority of votes in the majority of states. Just because California is so ridiculously overpopulated doesn't mean they get to dictate the President


I live in a state that splits electoral votes- clinton took a 3% lead in the popular vote here (and I suspect that easily 3+ % were illegal immigrants, dead people voting, general rigging, etc... but I digress)

Just a 3% lead in the popular vote, yet our "split" electoral college voted 3:1 for her.
Talk about being represented.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:13 PM
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Who cares? We aren't a democracy, but a constitutional republic with democratic ideals.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: Snippythehorse
a reply to: spiritualzombie
Figures ive seen say trump won the pop vote and the electoral college....check yer sources




Stop spreading lie. You can vote for Trump. He won the electoral college. Just stop spreading lies.

Truth matters.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: ksiezyc
a reply to: spiritualzombie

Who cares? We aren't a democracy, but a constitutional republic with democratic ideals.


Some people still care about truth. Truth matters.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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We live in a republic. The electoral college is what chooses the victor. If you care so much about truth why didn't you respond in your other thread. Seems you're just unhappy that Clinton lost.
Fed. Papers 10 and 68.

avalon.law.yale.edu...
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avalon.law.yale.edu...
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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:16 PM
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Pssst he won already. Take your ball and go home


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:16 PM
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Well, when you deduct the 3 million illegals who voted for Hillary, Trump actually won the popular vote by 2.3 million.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: Martin75
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It's doesn't matter


exactly.

Try again in 4 years.


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posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: spiritualzombie
Well clearly they don't want Americans questioning who really won.

Another person who doesn't understand at all how American presidential elections work. Trump "really won". Get over it.



posted on Nov, 14 2016 @ 05:18 PM
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Now you sound like a potential disgruntled rioter....put your fangs away...and I DONT LIE



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