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originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: TrueBrit
Problem with us is he went beyond just exposing the domestic spying we needed to know about and started going into how we spy on potential enemys like Argentina which is exactly what they should be doing and at that point his actions became criminal as it potentially endangered our national security.
If he came here I would be 100% against extradition to the US but would see him stand before a UK jury and face UK punishment for what he exposed about our spying abroad to hostile nations.
originally posted by: GD21D
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
I must have conspiracy mush brains.
Snowdan leaks sensitive data about government spying from China. Flees to Russia who offers asylum. The world knows about the governments spying program and is OUTRAGED!
So much so, they pass legislation to make it legal without anyone batting an eye. They still have and use this technology and now they don't have to hide it. How nice for our overlords.
You do know that domestic spying was made legal wayyyyyy before Snowden ever released anything right?
It was called Enhanced Surveillance Procedures in the Patriot Act. Legalized right out in the open in 2001. Snowden did his thing in 2013, well over a decade later.
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
And the new technology that was brought forward by Snowden is in the public domain and accepted. You speak of one link, I speak on another but shackles are still shackles.
I remember the notion of armed drones in American skies as laughable, non-lethal or otherwise. Today beanbags and lasers, tomorrow tomahawk cruise missiles. But let's not split hairs
originally posted by: GD21D
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
And the new technology that was brought forward by Snowden is in the public domain and accepted. You speak of one link, I speak on another but shackles are still shackles.
You seem to miss the point.
The technology and legal means were out in the open and accepted over a decade prior to his release of official documentation. Anyone even moderately up to date on what was being done had a pretty accurate idea of what was going on. The only thing missing was the "official procedures" on paper.
I remember the notion of armed drones in American skies as laughable, non-lethal or otherwise. Today beanbags and lasers, tomorrow tomahawk cruise missiles. But let's not split hairs
Splitting hairs is exactly what you're doing.
originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I think people forget...
Snowden isn't wanted for the information he leaked...he's wanted is for the information he didnt !
originally posted by: NightSkyeB4Dawn
originally posted by: trifecta
He would be crazy to leave a safe haven. He would have an "accident", if he ever decided to live a normal life again.
He is supposed to be the one that has the inside information and the straight poop on who is who and what is what.
Has he forgotten who and what he is dealing with?
Why would he trust them?
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
Before we get too exited, I found another source.
The vote is not legally binding, but constitutes a symbolic landmark, and could indicate a sea change in attitudes towards Snowden at the highest level of European politics.
Not legally binding. This is a decision made by the elected body of the E.U.
The non elected element of the parliament, I.e The Commissioners, have all the power, it's scandalous.
www.thejournal.ie...