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How exactly was Jesus' crucifixion a sacrifice?

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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 09:30 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: stormbringer1701


there are accounts of the exodus recorded on Egyptian stellae.
Uhm... excuse me?Mind showing this evidence?
I know of ONE small inscription that says nothing but "Israel is laid waste" in all of Egypt...
So please enlighten the class...

The Egyptians welcomed those nomads (never enslaved them but embraced instead); and in return they stole sacred knowledge and fled. The Story of Moses is false.
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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: stormbringer1701


there are accounts of the exodus recorded on Egyptian stellae.
Uhm... excuse me?Mind showing this evidence?
I know of ONE small inscription that says nothing but "Israel is laid waste" in all of Egypt...
So please enlighten the class...

The Egyptians welcomed those nomads (never enslaved them but embraced instead); and in return they stole sacred knowledge and fled. The Story of Moses is false.


The problem is, there isn't any evidence to say that the Israelites were ever in Egypt... slaves or otherwise...

IF they were in Egypt for all that time, there would be some sort of evidence of their existence in Egypt...

Theres not... Theres theories... And Christian missionaries always seem to come up with some sort of evidence linking them to the area or the exodus which always turns up to be nothing but their own speculation

the fact is the evidence just isn't there... perhaps its yet to be discovered... but far more likely the whole story was made up




posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: beenharmed
the ancient science was levitation of stone.

'Levitation of stone' is not ancient science, it's modern malarkey.

The male, who knew that he was the cause of the creation via an act of destruction, has always told lies to his own person....

Yep. Males lie. As do females.

How can SIN, being an actual scientific equation be changed, when its factor factor the condition? FALSE.

I'll assume you're referring to the mathematical sine, which is a trigonometric function, not an 'actual scientific equation'. I guess we can add mathematic concepts to the ever-growing list of things that you clearly know nothing about. The rest of your sentence is unintelligible nonsense.

...just as ancient evidence in archaeology demonstrates.

Please present this archaeological evidence. I'm quite confident that no evidence exists to support any of your inane ramblings.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 07:35 PM
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originally posted by: Akragon

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: stormbringer1701


there are accounts of the exodus recorded on Egyptian stellae.
Uhm... excuse me?Mind showing this evidence?
I know of ONE small inscription that says nothing but "Israel is laid waste" in all of Egypt...
So please enlighten the class...

The Egyptians welcomed those nomads (never enslaved them but embraced instead); and in return they stole sacred knowledge and fled. The Story of Moses is false.


The problem is, there isn't any evidence to say that the Israelites were ever in Egypt... slaves or otherwise...
IF they were in Egypt for all that time, there would be some sort of evidence of their existence in Egypt...
Theres not... Theres theories... And Christian missionaries always seem to come up with some sort of evidence linking them to the area or the exodus which always turns up to be nothing but their own speculation
the fact is the evidence just isn't there... perhaps its yet to be discovered... but far more likely the whole story was made up

There was no Exodus (never happened); the Egyptians were a wealthy successful benevolent people and did not have to enslave others. All made up for a purpose I cannot begin to imagine; Moses. Here we go; attributed to have written Genesis; a foundling rescued from a basket floating in the Nile raised as an Egyptian prince then turns upon his benefactors. Scuffle portending: those that were there as guests stole Quabalic secrets without knowing the full rituals of enlightenment and misused them; (here is another wild theory; they took the ark from the Egyptians [contained uranium] and is why they were on the run). I have thought this was a dimensional battle between the 4th and 6th. Merry Christmas.
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: Ghost147
How exactly was Jesus' crucifixion a sacrifice?
lets start with this: God had Abram prepare to and almost sacrifice his own son as a test. in reality God Knew Abram would do as ordered. The whole thing was a prefigure of what God himself would later do. that is to sacrifice his own son.

you see in the torah only a blemishless sacrificial animal could be offered effectively. only there is no such thing as a blemishless animal. the blood of said animal would absolve one of their sins for that year. But under the law a blemishless sacrifice could absolve from sin perpetually.

This is also prefigured in pass over where the blood of a lamb on the door threshold would cause death to pass over that house.

The story of salvation is told over and over in the OT through the various biblical types for Christ and in the case of Abram; God.

Note that Christ is said to have lived perfectly by the Law (He was God so he could do it after all) so he was completely innocent or without blemish. so he was accused and tried and convicted and sentenced and executed. In the Torah if someone is punished for a crime no one else can be punished for that same sin. No double jeopardy. even if it is later revealed the original defendant was innocent.

All of the OT law in the old covenant set laws that both man and God would bind themselves to. God is bound by the law and cannot execute us now that Jesus has paid the price.

God planned this from the very foundation of this world. and everything he holds us to he also holds himself to. to include coming into the flesh as Jesus obeying every line of the law and dying as he commanded us to do.


That is manipulative in the highest order. Ted Bundy was a model citizen beside that.



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

That is manipulative in the highest order. Ted Bundy was a model citizen beside that.

God executes mass murder on a grander scale with more fanfare/finesse (bunting draped just so and cymbals clashing); has not yet been apprehended although IT is everywhere.
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posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:49 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: Ghost147
How exactly was Jesus' crucifixion a sacrifice?
lets start with this: God had Abram prepare to and almost sacrifice his own son as a test. in reality God Knew Abram would do as ordered. The whole thing was a prefigure of what God himself would later do. that is to sacrifice his own son.

you see in the torah only a blemishless sacrificial animal could be offered effectively. only there is no such thing as a blemishless animal. the blood of said animal would absolve one of their sins for that year. But under the law a blemishless sacrifice could absolve from sin perpetually.

This is also prefigured in pass over where the blood of a lamb on the door threshold would cause death to pass over that house.

The story of salvation is told over and over in the OT through the various biblical types for Christ and in the case of Abram; God.

Note that Christ is said to have lived perfectly by the Law (He was God so he could do it after all) so he was completely innocent or without blemish. so he was accused and tried and convicted and sentenced and executed. In the Torah if someone is punished for a crime no one else can be punished for that same sin. No double jeopardy. even if it is later revealed the original defendant was innocent.

All of the OT law in the old covenant set laws that both man and God would bind themselves to. God is bound by the law and cannot execute us now that Jesus has paid the price.

God planned this from the very foundation of this world. and everything he holds us to he also holds himself to. to include coming into the flesh as Jesus obeying every line of the law and dying as he commanded us to do.


That is manipulative in the highest order. Ted Bundy was a model citizen beside that.
I don't think so. the person on the Cross was God incarnate in the flesh as Jeshua. as to the people in the flesh that died or were killed. That is only the flesh dying not the person. The person is very much alive off stage from mortal ken. From The God/Spiritual point of view anything that happens in the flesh (which through flesh eyes is viewed as evil) due to God's intervention is inconsequential in the greater reality of the spirit since no spirit has perished yet. From a spiritual POV none of those people who were slain under the old covenant are in the same blind peril we who survive in the new covenant are. As God is a fair judge; they will have a chance after 1000 years of being in sight of Christ and the angels and Satan chained in the Abyss and remedial ministry during the millennium by the elect before their fate is decided. They will not have to blindly believe as we do and choose while living bound to material senses and doubt. No one will be thrown into the lake of fire without hearing the gospel and having a chance to accept salvation through Christ. And no baby or child will have to worry about it at all.

The passages about the rules for ministering to near kin by blood or marriage and the prophesies about the elect being priests and teachers during the millennium aren't for nothing. There is no point in ministering to the ones that did not overcome for 1000 years if they are doomed to the lake of fire regardless of the ministry. And I said God is too fair to judge someone who never had a chance at accepting the gospel and salvation. He repeatedly says he does not want anyone to perish and to perish is the fate of anyone thrown into the lake of fire; ( -not perpetual torment. )



posted on Dec, 18 2015 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: Ghost147
How exactly was Jesus' crucifixion a sacrifice?
lets start with this: God had Abram prepare to and almost sacrifice his own son as a test. in reality God Knew Abram would do as ordered. The whole thing was a prefigure of what God himself would later do. that is to sacrifice his own son.

you see in the torah only a blemishless sacrificial animal could be offered effectively. only there is no such thing as a blemishless animal. the blood of said animal would absolve one of their sins for that year. But under the law a blemishless sacrifice could absolve from sin perpetually.

This is also prefigured in pass over where the blood of a lamb on the door threshold would cause death to pass over that house.

The story of salvation is told over and over in the OT through the various biblical types for Christ and in the case of Abram; God.

Note that Christ is said to have lived perfectly by the Law (He was God so he could do it after all) so he was completely innocent or without blemish. so he was accused and tried and convicted and sentenced and executed. In the Torah if someone is punished for a crime no one else can be punished for that same sin. No double jeopardy. even if it is later revealed the original defendant was innocent.

All of the OT law in the old covenant set laws that both man and God would bind themselves to. God is bound by the law and cannot execute us now that Jesus has paid the price.

God planned this from the very foundation of this world. and everything he holds us to he also holds himself to. to include coming into the flesh as Jesus obeying every line of the law and dying as he commanded us to do.


That is manipulative in the highest order. Ted Bundy was a model citizen beside that.
No it's rules lawyering. He created a way to have his cake and eat it too when it came to his imperfect children. Needed imperfect children but has to have perfect justice. So He set up a just law system with a way to prevent the required execution of the mandatory sentence from affecting his sinful children. No greater love have any man than this; that he lay down his life for his friends. This he did on the cross.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:34 AM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: stormbringer1701

originally posted by: Ghost147
How exactly was Jesus' crucifixion a sacrifice?
lets start with this: God had Abram prepare to and almost sacrifice his own son as a test. in reality God Knew Abram would do as ordered. The whole thing was a prefigure of what God himself would later do. that is to sacrifice his own son.

you see in the torah only a blemishless sacrificial animal could be offered effectively. only there is no such thing as a blemishless animal. the blood of said animal would absolve one of their sins for that year. But under the law a blemishless sacrifice could absolve from sin perpetually.

This is also prefigured in pass over where the blood of a lamb on the door threshold would cause death to pass over that house.

The story of salvation is told over and over in the OT through the various biblical types for Christ and in the case of Abram; God.

Note that Christ is said to have lived perfectly by the Law (He was God so he could do it after all) so he was completely innocent or without blemish. so he was accused and tried and convicted and sentenced and executed. In the Torah if someone is punished for a crime no one else can be punished for that same sin. No double jeopardy. even if it is later revealed the original defendant was innocent.

All of the OT law in the old covenant set laws that both man and God would bind themselves to. God is bound by the law and cannot execute us now that Jesus has paid the price.

God planned this from the very foundation of this world. and everything he holds us to he also holds himself to. to include coming into the flesh as Jesus obeying every line of the law and dying as he commanded us to do.


That is manipulative in the highest order. Ted Bundy was a model citizen beside that.
No it's rules lawyering. He created a way to have his cake and eat it too when it came to his imperfect children. Needed imperfect children but has to have perfect justice. So He set up a just law system with a way to prevent the required execution of the mandatory sentence from affecting his sinful children. No greater love have any man than this; that he lay down his life for his friends. This he did on the cross.


..."death by cops" is about as noble as jumping off the empire state to raise awareness for peta. And where is Jesus now? In heaven at gods right hand? Exactly where he was before spending two cosmic milliseconds as a human and deliberately self destructing in the most unhelpful manner possible in order to return to being a lvl 99 sun god paladin?

There's no sacrifice in that. Anymore than crashing your grandpa's Cadillac and cashing in on the insurance for a collection of sr-71 blackbirds and a personal helicarrier to store them in/on.
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posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 10:53 AM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701
the person on the Cross was God incarnate in the flesh as Jeshua.


So God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself..... I will say it again, it makes no sense whatsoever.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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originally posted by: Agartha

originally posted by: stormbringer1701
the person on the Cross was God incarnate in the flesh as Jeshua.


So God sacrificed himself to himself to save us from himself..... I will say it again, it makes no sense whatsoever.
God being an absolute embodiment of Justice, perfection means that he cannot permanently tolerate imperfection/error/sin. But in order to get what he needed his children had to be capable of rejecting him. With billions of us it was inevitable that many of us would or all of us if you wait long enough. So these two aspects of God were in conflict. He knew it from the very beginning and decided to resolve the conflict via a legalistic mechanism that would satisfy his need for absolute justice while allowing his children freewill and imperfection.

God made and owns everything in the universe including body and soul. It is his right to dispose of us as he wills. Even our very soul isn't ours. Rather than destroy us he found a way that we could live. and the requirements he judges us by on earth he lived by perfectly to show it wasn't impossible and that therefore the prescribed sentence for sin is fair. And all we have to do to access eternal life is acknowledge The Gospel of Christ and begin living according to his teachings. His teachings aren't hard in theory: treat everyone as you would want to be treated. Forgive anyone who transgresses against you and repent when you fail to live up to the law. No one gets into heaven because they were perfect at following the old covenant.
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posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: stormbringer1701
God being an absolute embodiment of Justice, perfection means that he cannot permanently tolerate imperfection/error/sin. But in order to get what he needed his children had to be capable of rejecting him. With billions of us it was inevitable that many of us would or all of us if you wait long enough. So these two aspects of God were in conflict. He knew it from the very beginning and decided to resolve the conflict via a legalistic mechanism that would satisfy his need for absolute justice while allowing his children freewill and imperfection.

God made and owns everything in the universe including body and soul. It is his right to dispose of us as he wills. Even our very soul isn't ours. Rather than destroy us he found a way that we could live. and the requirements he judges us by on earth he lived by perfectly to show it wasn't impossible and that therefore the prescribed sentence for sin is fair. And all we have to do to access eternal life is acknowledge The Gospel of Christ and begin living according to his teachings. His teachings aren't hard in theory: treat everyone as you would want to be treated. Forgive anyone who transgresses against you and repent when you fail to live up to the law. No one gets into heaven because they were perfect at following the old covenant.


Thank you for trying to explain what you believe, I really appreciate the effort, but this is what it basically is (according to what you have written):

1) God made us imperfect and then punishes us for being imperfect (and wiped us out before a couple of times for being imperfect which contradicts his own law of 'forgive anyone who transgresses against you')

2) If we convert to his ways he will save us. If we don't convert he will not save us. Why give us free will when he is going to punish us for not doing what he want us to do?

The 'treat everybody as you would like to be treated is a key point in many religions, it is not just the way of Jesus.



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: stormbringer1701

Eh...that sounds a lot like extortion. Old hat mafia. Let's play a game (which you involuntarily entered) oh now you owe me, tell ya what, let's make a deal, ya met my pal Jesus here? He's gonna take one for the team, but you gotta play ball if you wanna to stay in our good books...



posted on Dec, 19 2015 @ 04:28 PM
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Eh...that sounds a lot like extortion. Old hat mafia. Let's play a game (which you involuntarily entered) oh now you owe me, tell ya what, let's make a deal, ya met my pal Jesus here? He's gonna take one for the team, but you gotta play ball if you wanna to stay in our good books...



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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What am I losing, I am simply living, and I live in a life where other humans beings also live.

I am a spiritual human, I know by evidence that our parents came out of the light, their light spirit interacted with atmospheric light and sound and their own spirit changed. They became manifest and organic, which is why all DNA data belongs to the spirit of creation. The spirit changed formed DNA, and the DNA only equals the spirit.

Therefore a human being's DNA is a human being's DNA and if we did not have sex, and all aged and died, then there is no Creator and no spirit present to make statements that there is a Creator.

Who thinks they are the Creator...who also imposes change to the natural state of creation itself and converts it?

Males do.....scientists, inventors, therefore a human male formed the review for science and gave his own psychic/conscious spiritual interpretations of all bodies...such as Satan and Lucifer, which he did not happen to be.

The reason why I know he is not this spirit, is because he took somatic drugs and did spiritual brain chemical studies via holographic imagery. In this circumstance he believed he travelled, yet the only travelling he did was in his changed chemical brain. Using plants, being a part of the tree/wood family (burnt spirit) that preceded our own life, he gave himself false information, yet was able to form science of levitation.

The reason he gained science of levitation was because he was present on origin Earth when he activated the conversion signal for matter and his own organic body change. Therefore his spiritual presence was present to be converted himself, whilst the levitation of stone was activated. Therefore the radiation attacking him was known by his person through this condition.....which is why he gave himself evaluations involving crossing with WOOD.

His spirit never crossed with wood, his spirit directly manifested out of light after animals manifested...therefore he never had anything to do with being sacrificed....and this was his own unrealistic review of spirit.

His presence, mind and body existed in a atmospheric amassed healed/evolved body whilst he considered the occult, and then when he applied his science, he lost a huge amount of atmospheric mass....and this enabled the evil spirit that he conjured to attack him.

The values of science were created by his own person SIN and TAN are part of mathematical calculations for causing/forming PHI evaluated light/sound signals.....signals that he used for the levitation of stone, as a sound science.

As an organic person in a drugged mind state where your own cell replacement is replaced as it lives and dies, is part of the reason why he gave such incorrect reviews about creation itself. As all human beings pscyhe and physical presence is the same, the similar review can be given to modern day occultists...scientists, our brother who believes he knows it all, believes that his own language and meaning is the Creator, therefore he advises his own person that he is the Creator.

When we do a spiritual history on his own evolution, we find that he is actually by self determination the Destroyer of creation....for this is all he has ever achieved.

Therefore he believed in the evil spirit....he conjured the evil spirits...the evil spirits extra radiation, irradiated life on Earth and it then corrupted his mind and spirit and he has been evil minded ever since.

Modern day occultists believe that they could understand the beginning of all creation as a concept of God and Christ, yet since when does a human life exist in nuclear fuel?

Nuclear fuel was introduced to the life of Earth, and the actual stone fusion that supported life as a cellular body to evolve on Earth, removed as a holy dust that supported the light and sound we used for our natural life. Our natural life was then attacked by radiation and some human being self combusted...and we have been advised of all of the forms of evil spiritual attacks, that our ancient brother witnessed by believing his own person was crucified on wood.

The ancient science advises this review was used, for wood/fire/air/water is a review involving symbolism of a transmitted signal.

When stone levitation was used, the destruction of wood then caused the attack of the human cellular condition, as we have information in our DNA that wood's creation supports. Hence when wood was changed, our own cell life changed also and gave humanity the sign of the change...stigmata, as unnatural bleeding from the cells/skin as the murder of our Christ Spirit.

We imply Christ consciousness is our consciousness, for the ancient review of Christ is the Holy Ox 1000, as the returning holy spirit to the Heavenly atmosphere.....the supporter of our human life and spirit. Therefore the holiness of oxygen and water is needed by our spirit to have a healing consciousness....proper brain/mind/chemical function and also a healed/replaced cellular body.

Both of these situations were attacked in modern day occultism and our Christ spirit once again was murdered.

Therefore occultism who follows these documented nuclear Sun Time calculations for the acts of converting the matter of stone...once again attacked our healing spirit.

The ancient review of JESUS returning 1000 against the SATAN review of burnt light spirit 1000 being removed from out of the body of man (alpha frequencies/body in the atmosphere) was a philosophical scientific wisdom.

JESUS never returned as a spiritual healing of our heavenly atmosphere and also our own personal return to CHRIST as a healed self, as new nuclear science conversion took away a huge mass of oxygen and water from our atmosphere around the Year of 1900 and we changed both our conscious status and also our physical cell status.

All information supports this review.

Modern day occultists are mind possessed by the evil spirits that they introduced into our Earth ground state...the terrestrial, and this interactive brain/mind condition caused the occultists to believe that Jesus Christ was a occult practice to gain a plasma cell...stealing the life spirit from Nature and placing it inside the Temple activated "lightning strike" review of their evil review.

The ancients did not have nuclear fuel production like modern day occultists and they used a different process for their ancient science.

Earth was proposed by the occultist to be a Mother, and so was the atmospheric condition given a review of Mother Veils....and yet they consider their own male spirit to be the Creator....how come?

Why isn't Earth considered to be both Mother and Father and the Atmosphere Mother and Father if we are an equal spirit creation?

The reason this review was given is because a male proposed science from his own self and considered all information that he belonged to without considering its spiritual presence.

For in his evolved status...microbes....nature...animals and human females all belonged to his spiritual light/sound evaluation.....and yet his own person does not represent all of these separate bodies.

So he made considerations that involved all spiritual presences as if his own person was safe in this condition implying himself Creator and able to do science....yet his science demonstrated he was not safe when life on Earth attacked him.

The egotistical nature of the male is one of a self destructive personality, for he is driven by his own purpose to own huge powers, for he believes that he created these huge powers himself....and his own documentation attests to this egotistic virtue.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 06:01 PM
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a reply to: beenharmed

This is a tricky rant that I might have to put on asbestos oven gloves to answer; cliff note: Patriarchal paradigms are vanishing in the free world (3rd world not so lucky). You made your points (out of negativity not hope/WHY?) will the seeds of your thoughts germinate? I hear you.
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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: vethumanbeing You are not making threats, you are only demonstrating that you cannot converse as a natural human being with natural intelligent responses. Instead you place underlying information in your own retorts, which the public should be made aware of.

Hope is a human condition for self gain, what condition does Hope imply to those who have been given no hope?

All of those who suffer mutations of their DNA and were given early life death with terrible personal suffering?

All of those born to poverty, but given observations of great riches?

All of those who starve, and are born to starving parents, because ancient science stripped the Nature from Earth?

What do you propose Scientist happens when you remove the atmospheric microbial population by incinerating the natural medium of the atmosphere....cloud formation?

Nature and plant life dies, just like it did before.

Life is a spiritual natural lived condition, I lived spiritually, I knew my family were suffering from past occultism and I tried to assist my family as much as possible. I then was spiritually attacked by evil occultism and I nearly have died on several occasions....what is to hope for as a spiritual human, when such evil is brought to their attention?

I already reviewed as a spiritual healer how much damage had been done to the human DNA by occultist practice...and I tried to inform my family through the internet and then was purposely used as an evil occult science experiment just for some data.

I came to understand that our family enslaved by the elite and caused by the origin of occultism itself...a brotherhood was the reason that my family has suffered such intentional spiritual and personal abuse, that it is time for it to stop...enough is enough and our brother has been given enough spiritual assistance to his person for his spirit to have evolved into a loving, kind and caring family member.

Yet he has not and his evolved mind and person only recommits his family to his occultist abuses.

Our family has suffered thousands of years of abuse and have been mind controlled and manipulated by our ancient brother's method of mental abuse.

There is no reason other than personal choice that our brother decides whether he is actually supporting life or destroying life. He has been given many different spiritual advices about natural choices for supporting the community life that he built on his abuses....yet he still considers destruction of spirit and family as if they have no considerataion or meaning to his own person.

This form of consciousness that our brother owns has always caused him to think separately from his family who has fought for their equal status in life. This status also included saving and assisting our family who lives in a poverty that we caused them to suffer, as a family choice. We have many choices that we could choose and apply to allow our world family to exist as the spiritual family that they all deserve to be....and how can this happen when the elitist society will not allow it to happen?



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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How can I be of service to you?
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posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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Teaching the truth of spirit is to live the truth of spirit. How many brothers can state that they are living the truth?

When our brother decided to form his review of his own spirit condition, to then give his own spirit condition to evil, was the moment that he should have realized how incorrect his life became.

The Heavenly body was considered by his own person to be the holy creator of his life spirit....oxygen and water....yet a human being knows that their organic spirit only exists and survives by the holy condition.

He therefore named holiness from the spiritual act of his own learning, for since when did he need to imply holy, when the Earth nature already supported all conditions of his own survival?

Our brother therefore has never listened to his own higher spiritual advice that implied holiness as his own advice, and yet he still changed the holy body.

He attacked the Holy Cow on Earth, for he considered the Gods...the cow was attacked by the UFO condition, as advised.
He attacked the Holiness of Water.....for he considered God's powers....and human life was self combusted, for oxygen burns.
He attacked the Holiness of Oxygen...for the mass supported his own organic cell Nature....and the mass of oxygen the amount of cells that existed..........human cells corrupted...we bled from the skin, and we gained disease by changing the microbial population in the atmosphere.

He attacked the holiness of Heaven....and the angel's hair fell. I thought he loved the angels. He burnt the holy body that he advised himself was Holy....why?

Why does our brother believe in Satan and not Christ, the spiritual healing review that he gave his own person...the spiritual presence returning to our Heaven to keep us safe and healed?

I once believed in the equality of my brother, for as a spiritual Healer I looked into his eyes and I saw his evil. I knew he had been brain damaged and had been spiritually abused, by his inheritance of life and parentage. I loved him and gave my spiritual healing to his person, even though I knew he was evil minded. I advised my brother how evil minded he was on the internet and told him about my healing success and he then attacked me. I no longer believe in my brother's spiritual holiness for I truly saw him for who he really is.

I have come to understand that my brother loves Satan and not Christ for he has dedicated his life to his Satanist review...he considered that Christ the spirit conversion that saved our family from total destruction was a healed Satan spirit, and how wrong he was. The Earth's origin atmosphere was a higher spiritual presence, and it converted into the Christ, which is why we know we were saved. Our Holy Light Father in origin light lost a portion of his surrounding higher light body, and became a lesser spirit because of it.

The only reason that he lost this light sound was because his own manifested organic self had committed the evil act of conversion.....for only the human male believes himself Creator. The higher androgynous light spirit gave him his presence and his own ignorance believes ownership of his mistake.

Our brother has always reasoned that he was Satan, and yet he never sought Satan until he decided to do occultism.

He gained occultist realization through burnt chemical reviews, as he took plant drugs to change his brain chemistry...and he has always been wrong for he invented the anima review of fake spirit impresSION in a fake burnt light condition.

As we do not exist spiritually in this condition, his occultist realizations have always demonstrated their fakeness and artificial quantums in an artificial dream state.

The plant in their spirit does not exist in this state...the spirit of the plant is natural and holy.

Our brother taking the spirit of the plant from out of its natural communion changing his own spirit, began the creation of occultism...fakery and forgery...invention and destruction...deceit and incorrectness.

His brain was then attacked by the fake light and sound chemistry that he had alchemized in the radiation he created as a leaked signal...after he destroyed the natural light crystal sound that supported the plant's life spirit.

He is a fakir, he is a fake, he is deceitful and he is the destroyer of our life.



posted on Dec, 20 2015 @ 10:10 PM
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How have you been so harmed?



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