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Here! Here! It is after all the optimum message, regardless of who and how many it took to get the point across. This requires a transcendence of religion however, which man is not ready to acquiesce to.
Defrag- But the Book is never sufficient. Why not just shut up and let God speak His Own Way--"the still small voice" of Reason, Compassion, Mercy, and Gentleness? Why not participate in All the Covenants, not just one
Originally posted by Slicky1313
Shauny, I hate to break it to ya (not really) but your not gonna find God anytime soon. why?
it says in the Bible "No man seeks after God, no not one" and then later on explains how people only seek out God if God puts it in them to seek God out.
God has obviously not put it in you, so u will not find him, because your not looking and you cant, u cant cause of that verse right now.
Originally posted by Corinthas
"A good feel" maybe but i dont go round caliming to know how he thought about the place of the nude in art or what his favorite pen was.
Originally posted by Seapeople
The Bible is full of errors. Some are probably from bad translations. Most though, are from lack of knowledge at the time. Books written by different people. Discrepencies due to lack of contenuity. Man, there are probably 10 thousand horribly bad "mistakes" in the bible.
For instance: Try to read all 4 gospels in the new testament. Then tell me what actually happened on the day jesus rose from the dead. Tell me one story...without disregarding three other Gospels. Tell me how many apostles there were. Tell me whether or not you can see the face of God and live. Tell me whether or not we carry original sin (this is a good one).
You can't because it says one thing in one place, and a different thing somewhere else. It isnt all translation. It is more like trying to tell a giant lie over and over again...and keeping all your facts straight.
Sometimes it is best to leave off endorsements. Here is an example of a review of the Textus Receptus which you claim is the basis of the KJV:
Originally posted by Amethyst
I agree with otherwise.
Get you an Authorized King James. That is the only Bible in English that is accurate...
I also have to add that the KJV1611 was based on the Textus Receptus. All other versions are based on Vaticanus and Sinaiticus--which are CORRUPTED texts.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
You cannot look upon the face of god and live to tell the tale, but then in genesis it tells us...he hath seen god face to face.
"I have seen God face to face" - Genesis 32:30
Hello, this was a man he wrestled he never even told him his name. since this man was great and took his hip we can assume its an angel but guess what it does not say it was God. This man just bragged as if it were cause the fight was so great. an angel was trying this mans spirit.
"No man hath seen God at any time"- John 1:18
The all powerful god. Matthew tells us all things are possible with god, then again he cannot drive out some inhabitants because they had iron chariots.
"With God all things are possible." - Matthew 19:26
"The Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." - Judges 1:19
um this is WAR u do know what that is. Oh God could of wiped them clean however this was mans war. God was just with him not fighting for him. At this point in the war. the army was to great in number to be taken over by man. God was with him not doing it. to pick out a verse or two is just stupid. u do believe in the Bible thats why u try so hard to disapprove it. It scares that crap out of u. and it should satan himself is terrified--hes scared so bad hes trying to take as many souls with him as he can.
These are just a couple of the many thousand of inconsistancies in the bible. Do not sit there and tell me those aren't direct contradictions, when it's obviously clear there are many.
Theres not many just man.
Originally posted by Shar
"I have seen God face to face" - Genesis 32:30
Hello, this was a man he wrestled he never even told him his name. since this man was great and took his hip we can assume its an angel but guess what it does not say it was God. This man just bragged as if it were cause the fight was so great. an angel was trying this mans spirit.
"The Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." - Judges 1:19
um this is WAR u do know what that is. Oh God could of wiped them clean however this was mans war. God was just with him not fighting for him. At this point in the war. the army was to great in number to be taken over by man. God was with him not doing it. to pick out a verse or two is just stupid. u do believe in the Bible thats why u try so hard to disapprove it. It scares that crap out of u. and it should satan himself is terrified--hes scared so bad hes trying to take as many souls with him as he can.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
Originally posted by Shar
"I have seen God face to face" - Genesis 32:30
Hello, this was a man he wrestled he never even told him his name. since this man was great and took his hip we can assume its an angel but guess what it does not say it was God. This man just bragged as if it were cause the fight was so great. an angel was trying this mans spirit.
well to me you haven't really come to any conclusion as to why someone did look upon the face of god. when later on john tells us if you do you will surely die. also what you said was the man was ''bragging''. is this what genesis is just men bragging?
Again this was not God. nope genesis is more than just bragging. read it you will see. however would't u brag to have wrestled a spirit and lived to tell about it. i know i would. and u may have in a dream. dont think dreams r just dreams spirits of both sides can and will come to u. i dont know how u can say u dont believe when your whole life in itself is a miracle. so u have no feelings, u cant see, u cant even breath how can u. u dont even believe ur alive. u dont believe in nothing u believe in a void. a darkness so dark its scary to think about.
"The Lord was with Judah; and he drove out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." - Judges 1:19
um this is WAR u do know what that is. Oh God could of wiped them clean however this was mans war. God was just with him not fighting for him. At this point in the war. the army was to great in number to be taken over by man. God was with him not doing it. to pick out a verse or two is just stupid. u do believe in the Bible thats why u try so hard to disapprove it. It scares that crap out of u. and it should satan himself is terrified--hes scared so bad hes trying to take as many souls with him as he can.
i like that... 'you believe in the bible and that's why you're trying to disprove it'. i don't really need to disprove it, it disproves itself by being such a contradictory, inconsistant work of man, with no inspiration of a god whatsoever.
''It scares the crap out of me''. well no it doesnt...im trying to say the bible is wrong, theres no salvation, no heaven etc. if i believe that the bible is wrong then i also don't believe in hell so therefore when i die there's nothing. why would i need to be scared of absolutly nothing. plus if there is heaven and hell im really not too worried where i go...hell might even be a laugh, afterall billions upon billions will be there according to you, so its not like ill be on my own
yelp u will be do u honestly think u will get to just roam around freely la la la doing nothing think again. noone will be there for u. no one its darkest fears ur worst of the worst nightmares u havent even begun to be scared.
Originally posted by Shar
yelp u will be do u honestly think u will get to just roam around freely la la la doing nothing think again. noone will be there for u. no one its darkest fears ur worst of the worst nightmares u havent even begun to be scared.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
Originally posted by Shar
yelp u will be do u honestly think u will get to just roam around freely la la la doing nothing think again. noone will be there for u. no one its darkest fears ur worst of the worst nightmares u havent even begun to be scared.
it still doesnt sound that bad, sounds like it might just be similar to living in a horror movie...what's wrong with that?? heaven would be my nightmare, it's gonna be so boring up their your gonna wish you were a devil worshipper
Then Moses said, "Now show me your glory." And the Lord said, "I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. But," he said, "you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live."
Then the Lord said, "There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen." Exodus 33:18-23
Originally posted by shaunybaby
im prety objective in my research, i find quotes all over that show the bible to be contradictory. then shar just starts telling me im going to hell and that im only trying to disprove the bible because i actualy subconciously believe in it. that doesnt seem too consructive nor does it seem very thought out. shar do some research then come back and show that there aren't as many contradictions, inconsistancies in the bible.